Zone1 Does anyone think we need to keep the current military model of lowering physical performance standards for women?

Currently, for pretty much all run, carry, push-up, swim, etc tests, women aren’t held to the same standard as men.

Pete Hegseth said he wants to make it equal for all. I say touché. Does anyone on here actually back the leftist woke demand for unequal standards to get more women into the military?
No. They should not be in field combat. Could a woman ever be a Navy Seal? The idea is rediculous.
 
Currently, for pretty much all run, carry, push-up, swim, etc tests, women aren’t held to the same standard as men.

Pete Hegseth said he wants to make it equal for all. I say touché. Does anyone on here actually back the leftist woke demand for unequal standards to get more women into the military?
What is the "standard" may I see it please?
 
Look around at people you see and think how many of these youts are fir for service. The military can do wonders for some of them but if we have to dress out in a hurry we're screwed. Male or female or hybrid.
 
What is the "standard" may I see it please?
Sure, all this is out there, all it takes is a simple search




Actually I should stand corrected, the radical left search algorithms flood you with woke nonsense and it takes specific search terms to find the actual policies.

The leftist bubble is very good at restricting access to information that harms its narratives.
 
Sure, all this is out there, all it takes is a simple search




Actually I should stand corrected, the radical left search algorithms flood you with woke nonsense and it takes specific search terms to find the actual policies.

The leftist bubble is very good at restricting access to information that harms its narratives.
Is that it? its a joke, any healthy person can reach that standard in about two months if they can't do it already.

Why would anyone expect or want a woman to be equal to a man at press ups? How does press ups help in a gun fight?

I used to do 100 a day and run five miles a day seven days a week, so what's the big deal here?

Only a Nancy boy would grumble "But why is she allowed to less press ups than me? whhaaaa".

You trumpanzees really have no idea, you live in a fantasy world.
 
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Ever seen a car accident? How about pulling a body out of a tractor that flipped over on the farmer driving it? She literally pulls people out of some of the most bizarre situations you could imagine. She would have zero difficulty.

I applaud your daughter as a paramedic....but a paramedic in a civilian setting is nothing like a medic in a combat setting....not even close....
 
Ever seen a car accident? How about pulling a body out of a tractor that flipped over on the farmer driving it? She literally pulls people out of some of the most bizarre situations you could imagine. She would have zero difficulty.

And how many days without sleep, marching all day long, digging fighting positions, with 45-100 pound ruck sack with poor quality food does she experience each time she reports to work?
 
Actually I should stand corrected, the radical left search algorithms flood you with woke nonsense and it takes specific search terms to find the actual policies.

The leftist bubble is very good at restricting access to information that harms its narratives.
What a fucking idiot you are, baseless rhetoric is your modus operandi like all extremists here:

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And how many days without sleep, marching all day long, digging fighting positions, with 45-100 pound ruck sack with poor quality food does she experience each time she reports to work?
How many did you do, wimp? Not everybody does that every day. My son was an infantry soldier and even he never did that, even in Afghanistan. You watch too many WWII movies.
 
How do you make sup for the shortfall of recruits?
Recruits will take care of themselves when the military is restored to an effective, efficient, deadly fighting force at a level that ensures it will likely rarely, if ever, be needed because nobody will dare mess with us.

When it is noble and worthwhile being in the military and good soldiers are respected and appreciated again.

When nobody in the military is seen as the affirmative action or DEI personnel.

As for women, if they can meet the same standards as the guys then okay. If they can't, they should expect to be assigned to strictly administrative and non combat roles where their lesser strength/physical ability will not put fellow service personnel at higher risk.
 
Recruits will take care of themselves when the military is restored to an effective, efficient, deadly fighting force at a level that ensures it will likely rarely, if ever, be needed because nobody will dare mess with us.
Nobody ever threated the United States since Pearl Harbor, stop being a drama queen, playing the victim in a world where the US has killed untold millions of innocent people.
When it is noble and worthwhile being in the military and good soldiers are respected and appreciated again.

When nobody in the military is seen as the affirmative action or DEI personnel.

As for women, if they can meet the same standards as the guys then okay. If they can't, they should expect to be assigned to strictly administrative and non combat roles where their lesser strength/physical ability will not put fellow service personnel at higher risk.
The standard cited above is for pussies though, what's all the fuss about:

 
Nobody ever threated the United States since Pearl Harbor, stop being a drama queen, playing the victim in a world where the US has killed untold millions of innocent people.

The standard cited above is for pussies though, what's all the fuss about:


You don't know much history or even current events do you. A shame because if you di, you would know how misguided you are re the military.
 
You don't know much history or even current events do you. A shame because if you di, you would know how misguided you are re the military.

Tell me when was the last time a foreign miliary attacked US territory? It was 1941, go and check...



 
As for women, if they can meet the same standards as the guys then okay. If they can't, they should expect to be assigned to strictly administrative and non combat roles where their lesser strength/physical ability will not put fellow service personnel at higher risk.
I hate it when some one pops up with a logical position! :cheers2:
 
Tell me when was the last time a foreign miliary attacked US territory? It was 1941, go and check...




What country has had sufficient power/incentive to risk that? Which is my point. Russia came close in the Cold war but Reagan's policies eventually broke them financially and the U.S.S.R dissolved. That would never have happened had Reagan not understood the importance of a military so powerful it wouldn't have to be used. And Reagan didn't have to deal with P.C., affirmative action, DEI that the woke Democrats have put into place over the years since.

Trump is going back to a Reagan military and it's high time somebody did.
 
What country has had sufficient power/incentive to risk that? Which is my point. Russia came close in the Cold war but Reagan's policies eventually broke them financially and the U.S.S.R dissolved. That would never have happened had Reagan not understood the importance of a military so powerful it wouldn't have to be used. And Reagan didn't have to deal with P.C., affirmative action, DEI that the woke Democrats have put into place over the years since.

Trump is going back to a Reagan military and it's high time somebody did.
What are you so frightened of exactly? No country that I know of has any plan to attack the United States, this is all bogeyman stuff, utterly ridiculous.

The threats are all internal not external, this is how all empires die, from within.
 
What are you so frightened of exactly? No country that I know of has any plan to attack the United States, this is all bogeyman stuff, utterly ridiculous.

The threats are all internal not external, this is how all empires die, from within.
Again dear you really really REALLY need remedial reading comprehension and remedial history. Do have a pleasant afternoon though.
 
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