Zone1 Debunking the view that Muhammad was a pedophile for his marriage to Aisha

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We have often heard folks who are critical of Islam or outright bigots say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Or something like that for his marriage to Aisha, who, according to some was nine years old upon marrying Muhammad . But actually firstly according to other Islamic narratives Aisha was 18 upon marrying Muhammad.

The simplest way to address this issue is to look at the context. For example, in the 19th century in the USA in one state the age of consent was seven years old for girls. Now we’re not talking about 1000 years ago but

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There it is so people who hate Islam or Muhammad will by that logic have to hate America. So their argument falls apart very quickly.

Not to mention there are some Jewish interpretations that say according to Jewish law, the age of consent can be as low as three years old or Jewish men can marry three-year-old girls.

Now again, the critics or the bigots will say “who cares about the past” which of course destroys their own point of view anyways. But they’ll say “why is it that Muslims today still marry 10-year-olds” or something like that. Which by the way is extremely rare and happening only in tribal areas in Afghanistan if at all.

In addition In fact when you look at the age of consent. It is actually higher on average in Muslim countries compared to non Muslim countries.

There are some countries in the world today non-Muslim ones like the Philippines where the age of consent was recently 12 years old until only a few years ago. And for a long time the age of consent in Japan was 13 years old.


Now confronted with these facts, the critics or bots will jump to other topics and say “oh Muslims blow themselves up all the time” or something. And of course, that is another topic and it’s also debunked. But the point is that when they are proven wrong, the critics of Islam or the biggest will just start jumping to other topics or try and look for the Gacha moments. We are dealing with people who simply don’t know better. Actually, a lot of critics of Islam simply don’t understand the historical context.

There is another set of critics of Islam, who are outright racist or never honest. They live a deranged life very unhealthy. In many cases physically unhealthy, a bad diet and a really bad mindset. They never will change their ways before they die. They will go to their grave absolutely hating people who are different from them. This is the case with hatred of Jews, hatred of Catholics hatred of Muslims, whatever it might be.

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As an American Patriot and Trump supporter…Knowing well that Arabs and Muslims in large part supported Donald Trump, I am vindicated. I am providing common sense here. And ready to show the radical left that we Trump supporters are united more than ever. You got your blacks, your whites, your Christians, your Jews, your Muslims all United behind Donald Trump. There are way more racists on the left wing side When it comes to the BLM supporters. There are still a few Trump supporters who are Racist, but it’s few and and far between.
 
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In no way shape or form am I offended by people who are critical of one religion or the other. I’m simply showing the historical context and debunking the view that Islam is somehow inherently evil because of the view that “Muhammad was a pedophile”.


That’s what I’ve done with this thread. Because if people believe that Muhammad was a pedophile, they would then have to say that the United States of America was a pedophile country in the 19th century. Or that Japan is a pedophile country today.

See I don’t understand what it’s like to hate somebody because of their religion. I know in this world that there are people who absolutely hate Jews, Muslims, Christians Buddhists you name it. I just don’t know what it’s like to live like that. I hope that those folks can change their ways.

What’s even more fascinating to me are these sort of people who hate one religion while attempting to defend another religion or claim that their religion is unfairly criticized, or something like that.

Because Islam is not the only religion in this world that is criticized. There are tons of people who have unfair criticism, and hatred toward the Catholic Church, for example. My point is as a Catholic. I cannot imagine what it would be like to complain about hatred of Catholicism while then at the same time perhaps hating Judaism or Islam. Just kind of weird and doesn’t make any logical sense.
 
Most Muslims would be the first to admit that there are plenty of problems in Muslim majority countries. These are things that Muslims have to confront and in many are trying to do that. Obviously a massive amount of Muslims died fighting against ISIL 10 years ago.

In the past 5 years There has been a tremendous social advancement in the gulf countries which are extremely wealthy and in many cases safer than western majority countries. You know there’s no left-wing fanaticism in Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates….. some of These countries are actually working with Israel on construction projects.
 
He was a pedophile
Then by that logic, you think that America was a pedophile country in the 19th century.


Again, really importantly, I am all about a free speech and welcoming people who criticize one religion or the other. But just take a look at the original post and take just a very short amount of time to read through it. It’ll answer all of your concerns.
 
He was a pedophile. That there are other pedophiles doesn't change the fact that he was a dirty child molester
It’s up to you if you want to be here to troll or not.

A lower Age of consent was socially acceptable in the past including 19th century of America.
 
It’s up to you if you want to be here to troll or not.

A lower Age of consent was socially acceptable in the past including 19th century of America.

I doubt he is deliberately Trolling .
I suspect he really believes what he writes.
He is a Cultist and is stuck within his narrow and limited world view.
You either put a bullet in their brains, or pat them on the head and smile reassuringly at them .
Because they can be conditioned easily you can usually teach them to do simple tricks . See Pavlov's dogs .
 
We have often heard folks who are critical of Islam or outright bigots say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Or something like that for his marriage to Aisha, who, according to some was nine years old upon marrying Muhammad . But actually firstly according to other Islamic narratives Aisha was 18 upon marrying Muhammad.

The simplest way to address this issue is to look at the context. For example, in the 19th century in the USA in one state the age of consent was seven years old for girls. Now we’re not talking about 1000 years ago but

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There it is so people who hate Islam or Muhammad will by that logic have to hate America. So their argument falls apart very quickly.

Not to mention there are some Jewish interpretations that say according to Jewish law, the age of consent can be as low as three years old or Jewish men can marry three-year-old girls.

Now again, the critics or the bigots will say “who cares about the past” which of course destroys their own point of view anyways. But they’ll say “why is it that Muslims today still marry 10-year-olds” or something like that. Which by the way is extremely rare and happening only in tribal areas in Afghanistan if at all.

In addition In fact when you look at the age of consent. It is actually higher on average in Muslim countries compared to non Muslim countries.

There are some countries in the world today non-Muslim ones like the Philippines where the age of consent was recently 12 years old until only a few years ago. And for a long time the age of consent in Japan was 13 years old.


Now confronted with these facts, the critics or bots will jump to other topics and say “oh Muslims blow themselves up all the time” or something. And of course, that is another topic and it’s also debunked. But the point is that when they are proven wrong, the critics of Islam or the biggest will just start jumping to other topics or try and look for the Gacha moments. We are dealing with people who simply don’t know better. Actually, a lot of critics of Islam simply don’t understand the historical context.

There is another set of critics of Islam, who are outright racist or never honest. They live a deranged life very unhealthy. In many cases physically unhealthy, a bad diet and a really bad mindset. They never will change their ways before they die. They will go to their grave absolutely hating people who are different from them. This is the case with hatred of Jews, hatred of Catholics hatred of Muslims, whatever it might be.

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As an American Patriot and Trump supporter…Knowing well that Arabs and Muslims in large part supported Donald Trump, I am vindicated. I am providing common sense here. And ready to show the radical left that we Trump supporters are united more than ever. You got your blacks, your whites, your Christians, your Jews, your Muslims all United behind Donald Trump. There are way more racists on the left wing side When it comes to the BLM supporters. There are still a few Trump supporters who are Racist, but it’s few and and far between.
Your discussion is cute-----but actually useless. thanks anyway
 
We have often heard folks who are critical of Islam or outright bigots say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Or something like that for his marriage to Aisha, who, according to some was nine years old upon marrying Muhammad . But actually firstly according to other Islamic narratives Aisha was 18 upon marrying Muhammad.

The simplest way to address this issue is to look at the context. For example, in the 19th century in the USA in one state the age of consent was seven years old for girls. Now we’re not talking about 1000 years ago but

View attachment 1066759

There it is so people who hate Islam or Muhammad will by that logic have to hate America. So their argument falls apart very quickly.

Not to mention there are some Jewish interpretations that say according to Jewish law, the age of consent can be as low as three years old or Jewish men can marry three-year-old girls.

Now again, the critics or the bigots will say “who cares about the past” which of course destroys their own point of view anyways. But they’ll say “why is it that Muslims today still marry 10-year-olds” or something like that. Which by the way is extremely rare and happening only in tribal areas in Afghanistan if at all.

In addition In fact when you look at the age of consent. It is actually higher on average in Muslim countries compared to non Muslim countries.

There are some countries in the world today non-Muslim ones like the Philippines where the age of consent was recently 12 years old until only a few years ago. And for a long time the age of consent in Japan was 13 years old.


Now confronted with these facts, the critics or bots will jump to other topics and say “oh Muslims blow themselves up all the time” or something. And of course, that is another topic and it’s also debunked. But the point is that when they are proven wrong, the critics of Islam or the biggest will just start jumping to other topics or try and look for the Gacha moments. We are dealing with people who simply don’t know better. Actually, a lot of critics of Islam simply don’t understand the historical context.

There is another set of critics of Islam, who are outright racist or never honest. They live a deranged life very unhealthy. In many cases physically unhealthy, a bad diet and a really bad mindset. They never will change their ways before they die. They will go to their grave absolutely hating people who are different from them. This is the case with hatred of Jews, hatred of Catholics hatred of Muslims, whatever it might be.

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As an American Patriot and Trump supporter…Knowing well that Arabs and Muslims in large part supported Donald Trump, I am vindicated. I am providing common sense here. And ready to show the radical left that we Trump supporters are united more than ever. You got your blacks, your whites, your Christians, your Jews, your Muslims all United behind Donald Trump. There are way more racists on the left wing side When it comes to the BLM supporters. There are still a few Trump supporters who are Racist, but it’s few and and far between.
There are many racists in MAGA, and the reason some Muslims supported Trump is due to Biden's blind support of Netanyahu. Hopefully, Trump won't behave as a vassal of Netanyahu and AIPAC, putting them in their proper place.

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There are many racists in MAGA, and the reason some Muslims supported Trump is due to Biden's blind support of Netanyahu. Hopefully, Trump won't behave as a vassal of Netanyahu and AIPAC, putting them in their proper place.

There are many racists in MAGA, and the reason some Muslims supported Trump is due to Biden's blind support of Netanyahu. Hopefully, Trump won't behave as a vassal of Netanyahu and AIPAC, putting them in their proper place.

MASJID BULLSHIT ^^^^
 
Aisah married Mohammed at six years of age. The marriage was consummated when she was nine.
 
We have often heard folks who are critical of Islam or outright bigots say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Or something like that for his marriage to Aisha, who, according to some was nine years old upon marrying Muhammad . But actually firstly according to other Islamic narratives Aisha was 18 upon marrying Muhammad.

The simplest way to address this issue is to look at the context. For example, in the 19th century in the USA in one state the age of consent was seven years old for girls. Now we’re not talking about 1000 years ago but

View attachment 1066759

There it is so people who hate Islam or Muhammad will by that logic have to hate America. So their argument falls apart very quickly.

Not to mention there are some Jewish interpretations that say according to Jewish law, the age of consent can be as low as three years old or Jewish men can marry three-year-old girls.

Now again, the critics or the bigots will say “who cares about the past” which of course destroys their own point of view anyways. But they’ll say “why is it that Muslims today still marry 10-year-olds” or something like that. Which by the way is extremely rare and happening only in tribal areas in Afghanistan if at all.

In addition In fact when you look at the age of consent. It is actually higher on average in Muslim countries compared to non Muslim countries.

There are some countries in the world today non-Muslim ones like the Philippines where the age of consent was recently 12 years old until only a few years ago. And for a long time the age of consent in Japan was 13 years old.


Now confronted with these facts, the critics or bots will jump to other topics and say “oh Muslims blow themselves up all the time” or something. And of course, that is another topic and it’s also debunked. But the point is that when they are proven wrong, the critics of Islam or the biggest will just start jumping to other topics or try and look for the Gacha moments. We are dealing with people who simply don’t know better. Actually, a lot of critics of Islam simply don’t understand the historical context.

There is another set of critics of Islam, who are outright racist or never honest. They live a deranged life very unhealthy. In many cases physically unhealthy, a bad diet and a really bad mindset. They never will change their ways before they die. They will go to their grave absolutely hating people who are different from them. This is the case with hatred of Jews, hatred of Catholics hatred of Muslims, whatever it might be.

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As an American Patriot and Trump supporter…Knowing well that Arabs and Muslims in large part supported Donald Trump, I am vindicated. I am providing common sense here. And ready to show the radical left that we Trump supporters are united more than ever. You got your blacks, your whites, your Christians, your Jews, your Muslims all United behind Donald Trump. There are way more racists on the left wing side When it comes to the BLM supporters. There are still a few Trump supporters who are Racist, but it’s few and and far between.

Good research.... informative post.
 
Aisah married Mohammed at six years of age. The marriage was consummated when she was nine.
Possibly …. But other Islamic narratives say Aisha was 19 years old upon marriage to Muhammad .

The critical point is undeniable. So we can go back to the 1800s in America when the age of consent was seven or nine years old in most states in the country. That Demolishes the anti-Islam narrative. Many centuries after Muhammad there was still child marriage even in the Christian west.

The fact is girls got married at a much much much younger age in the past. It was acceptable because people had to survive and create families. There’s other reasons as well.

Now there is still a problem in some of the really rural areas of some Muslim majority countries today where there is child marriage …. it’s unacceptable in the modern era. I know some Mormons and other Christians do this too.


We are in the dawn of a new age…. Look at the liberal advancements in Saudi Arabia, for example. They are working with Israelis in some capacity ….to the chagrin of Muslim and Jewish racists
 
We have often heard folks who are critical of Islam or outright bigots say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Or something like that for his marriage to Aisha, who, according to some was nine years old upon marrying Muhammad . But actually firstly according to other Islamic narratives Aisha was 18 upon marrying Muhammad.

The simplest way to address this issue is to look at the context. For example, in the 19th century in the USA in one state the age of consent was seven years old for girls. Now we’re not talking about 1000 years ago but

View attachment 1066759

There it is so people who hate Islam or Muhammad will by that logic have to hate America. So their argument falls apart very quickly.

Not to mention there are some Jewish interpretations that say according to Jewish law, the age of consent can be as low as three years old or Jewish men can marry three-year-old girls.

Now again, the critics or the bigots will say “who cares about the past” which of course destroys their own point of view anyways. But they’ll say “why is it that Muslims today still marry 10-year-olds” or something like that. Which by the way is extremely rare and happening only in tribal areas in Afghanistan if at all.

In addition In fact when you look at the age of consent. It is actually higher on average in Muslim countries compared to non Muslim countries.

There are some countries in the world today non-Muslim ones like the Philippines where the age of consent was recently 12 years old until only a few years ago. And for a long time the age of consent in Japan was 13 years old.


Now confronted with these facts, the critics or bots will jump to other topics and say “oh Muslims blow themselves up all the time” or something. And of course, that is another topic and it’s also debunked. But the point is that when they are proven wrong, the critics of Islam or the biggest will just start jumping to other topics or try and look for the Gacha moments. We are dealing with people who simply don’t know better. Actually, a lot of critics of Islam simply don’t understand the historical context.

There is another set of critics of Islam, who are outright racist or never honest. They live a deranged life very unhealthy. In many cases physically unhealthy, a bad diet and a really bad mindset. They never will change their ways before they die. They will go to their grave absolutely hating people who are different from them. This is the case with hatred of Jews, hatred of Catholics hatred of Muslims, whatever it might be.

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As an American Patriot and Trump supporter…Knowing well that Arabs and Muslims in large part supported Donald Trump, I am vindicated. I am providing common sense here. And ready to show the radical left that we Trump supporters are united more than ever. You got your blacks, your whites, your Christians, your Jews, your Muslims all United behind Donald Trump. There are way more racists on the left wing side When it comes to the BLM supporters. There are still a few Trump supporters who are Racist, but it’s few and and far between.
He was a pedo. No question.

Also he was a raving lunatic, a manical murderer and a hate-filled bigot.
 
Most Muslims would be the first to admit that there are plenty of problems in Muslim majority countries. These are things that Muslims have to confront and in many are trying to do that. Obviously a massive amount of Muslims died fighting against ISIL 10 years ago.

In the past 5 years There has been a tremendous social advancement in the gulf countries which are extremely wealthy and in many cases safer than western majority countries. You know there’s no left-wing fanaticism in Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates….. some of These countries are actually working with Israel on construction projects.
Because left-wing fanaticism is heavily suppressed.
While you are on about "honesty", you might address the still very predominate custom of pederasty in Arab/Muslim culture. :rolleyes:
 
He was a pedo. No question.

Also he was a raving lunatic, a manical murderer and a hate-filled bigot.
Stryder50

I’m all about free speech, unlike the radical left. But common sense is backing up what I’m saying in this thread. I have nothing wrong with somebody who is against Judaism, Islam or Christianity. I am respectful of all three religions. But I do believe in free speech.

If one criticizes Muhammad for his marriage to Aisha Then that makes a bunch of men in 19th century America pedophiles. In those days men and women got married at a much younger age. plenty of cases of older men marrying girls too. And that was 150 years ago forget about 1500 years…. The word pedophile cannot be used to described people in societies from centuries ago. Doesn’t make any logical sense.

Also no Muhammad was not a bigot. He had Jewish warriors in his army.


Some Jewish rabbis in modern times say it’s OK for a three year-old girl to get married… not all jews think like this.

These facts are simply never talked about or thrown out the window by the anti-Islam folks. But what the counters the anti Islam argument, especially of conservative anti-Islam folks is the other generation in American Christian majority society men vs ie going into women’s bathrooms. Sex change operations for kids. They don’t really have a leg to stand on.


And there are Muslim countries where there is tons of secularism and alcohol consumption. Like Albania or turkey where there’s even a lot of atheists. There’s gays in turkey too. But just not the level of left-wing fanaticism in America that hopefully Trump will confront in 2025
 
Stryder50

I’m all about free speech, unlike the radical left. But common sense is backing up what I’m saying in this thread. I have nothing wrong with somebody who is against Judaism, Islam or Christianity. I am respectful of all three religions. But I do believe in free speech.

If one criticizes Muhammad for his marriage to Aisha Then that makes a bunch of men in 19th century America pedophiles. In those days men and women got married at a much younger age. plenty of cases of older men marrying girls too. And that was 150 years ago forget about 1500 years…. The word pedophile cannot be used to described people in societies from centuries ago. Doesn’t make any logical sense.

Also no Muhammad was not a bigot. He had Jewish warriors in his army.


Some Jewish rabbis in modern times say it’s OK for a three year-old girl to get married… not all jews think like this.

These facts are simply never talked about or thrown out the window by the anti-Islam folks. But what the counters the anti Islam argument, especially of conservative anti-Islam folks is the other generation in American Christian majority society men vs ie going into women’s bathrooms. Sex change operations for kids. They don’t really have a leg to stand on.


And there are Muslim countries where there is tons of secularism and alcohol consumption. Like Albania or turkey where there’s even a lot of atheists. There’s gays in turkey too. But just not the level of left-wing fanaticism in America that hopefully Trump will confront in 2025
He was in fact a pedo. Etc.
 

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