Do you support Trump’s war on drugs

[Deadstick]

Wars broke out after Biden was elected

Your illegal and trumped up wars have been going on since Vietnam andsome of you have gone along with them.

 

[JohnDB]

When the boats from Venezuela make a beeline for the Honduras coastline to refuel....

It's a dead giveaway.


Oceanic radar tells everything and with computer tracking....it's not like it's going unnoticed.

Even though these boats are small and fast they can't escape radar. And where the oceans are large....they are covered in radar signals. Nobody travels anywhere without being seen. Whether anyone actually does anything about those signals is up to the coastguard.

And....

Then you have to consider the alternatives to how this HAS been being handled.

Drug routes, for the most part, are fairly consistent. Distributors distribute the drugs to major cities and then the CASH gets delivered to the manufacturers with everyone getting a cut along the way. But big chuncks of cash are moved on fairly stable routes because cash is not illegal until it gets to the border.

Enter certain states without mentioning any names (cough cough Tennessee ahem cough cough)

They have caught enough intelligence to know exactly WHO, WHAT, WHEN, AND WHERE these guys will be driving through with the cash from drug sales. They never stop the drugs....only the cash and confiscate it. They consider it spoils of war.
Yeah....the state government is profiting from drug sales without touching a gram of drugs. Kinda disgusting behavior IMHO.

 

[Deadstick]

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I've been retired for quite a while. I'm entitled.






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Entitled to what?

 

[Woodznutz]

When the boats from Venezuela make a beeline for the Honduras coastline to refuel....

It's a dead giveaway.


Oceanic radar tells everything and with computer tracking....it's not like it's going unnoticed.

Even though these boats are small and fast they can't escape radar. And where the oceans are large....they are covered in radar signals. Nobody travels anywhere without being seen. Whether anyone actually does anything about those signals is up to the coastguard.

And....

Then you have to consider the alternatives to how this HAS been being handled.

Drug routes, for the most part, are fairly consistent. Distributors distribute the drugs to major cities and then the CASH gets delivered to the manufacturers with everyone getting a cut along the way. But big chuncks of cash are moved on fairly stable routes because cash is not illegal until it gets to the border.

Enter certain states without mentioning any names (cough cough Tennessee ahem cough cough)

They have caught enough intelligence to know exactly WHO, WHAT, WHEN, AND WHERE these guys will be driving through with the cash from drug sales. They never stop the drugs....only the cash and confiscate it. They consider it spoils of war.
Yeah....the state government is profiting from drug sales without touching a gram of drugs. Kinda disgusting behavior IMHO.

Money is the lifeblood of the drug trade. Drain the blood, the critter dies.

 

[JohnDB]

Money is the lifeblood of the drug trade. Drain the blood, the critter dies.

What's so wrong with stopping the product as well as the profits? Some states are ONLY concerned with the profits.

 

[skews13]

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I know that's your substance-addled fantasy, but it's certainly not true.






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Marijuana is legal in most states. That in and of itself, stuck the war on drugs up Richard Nixons ass, and broke it off in Ronald Reagans.

There is no shortage of cocaine, or meth availability anywhere. New drugs like fentanyl have replaced heroin altogether.

Prosecutors in every state don't even bother prosecuting possession of any of it, anymore, as there is no room in local jails, and no budgets for new prisons.

You can even watch cop shows on television now, that show cops everywhere just taking what little drugs they find, and releasing people at traffic stops.

You got your ass handed to you in the war on drugs. Its ******* embarrassing how badly you lost.

99% of marijuana that is consumed in the US is produced here. The majority of all other narcotics come through ports of call, and across land borders with absolute impunity.

The international drug cartels are multinational, multibillion dollar organizations, that now have political cover from every government in the world, including ours. They own shipping, distribution companies, warehouses, have logistical support. They have ownership in legitimate companies here, and all over the world.

The entire United States military could not shut down the opium, and heroin coming out of Afghanistan after a 20 year occupation, and a live shooting war.

Exactly what planet is it that you live on? Is the sky blue there?

 

[Correll]

What's so wrong with stopping the product as well as the profits? Some states are ONLY concerned with the profits.

Lefties are by definition on the side of the "oppressed".

Since the drug runners are brown, to the lefty that makes them the "oppressed" and thus the US the bad guys.

So the lefty wants the drugs to flow and Americans to continue to die.

 

[Failzero]

I want drone Strikes in Mexico

 

[SaxonJackson]

Do you support Trump’s war on drugs? He’s actively going after drug smugglers on the open seas. I support this. I think it’s about time. People who push and import drugs into the United States are killing and enslaving Americans. Tell me that addiction to drugs is not a form of slavery—it is. Drugs are addictive, and people will steal or do whatever they have to in order to get the money to buy them. This causes most of the crime in our country, much of the violent crime if not most. So I think it’s legitimate. I just wish that Congress would declare an actual war—not against any particular country, but against the organizations themselves—and specifically authorize strikes at sea. Drug smugglers caught at the border should be arrested by the military and sent to Guantanamo. Away from the border, drug arrests would be handled by the DEA.

The current tactics set a dangerous precedence. If we can just start bombing boats that we suspect may be transporting drugs then we can shoot down plains, or bomb trains, or carpet bomb towns with drones, etc., if we suspect there may be some drug dealers hidden inside. Then, down the road, when we start bombing suspected terrorist cells, we can bomb them as well. Then, when "terrorism" is defined as "hate speech," a government that doesn't like what you say or what I say can bomb our homes due to our "terrorist" ideology.

No ... I still believe in due process. Using King George tactics was wrong in the 1700s and it's wrong today.

 

[Correll]

The current tactics set a dangerous precedence. If we can just start bombing boats that we suspect may be transporting drugs then we can shoot down plains, or bomb trains, or carpet bomb towns with drones, etc., if we suspect there may be some drug dealers hidden inside. Then, down the road, when we start bombing suspected terrorist cells, we can bomb them as well. Then, when "terrorism" is defined as "hate speech," a government that doesn't like what you say or what I say can bomb our homes due to our "terrorist" ideology.

No ... I still believe in due process. Using King George tactics was wrong in the 1700s and it's wrong today.

Teh dems have been killing people for that or less since Waco and Ruby Ridge.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that they are waiting for US to escalate before they will cross a line.

 

[Orangecat]

Attacking without warning with a missile because “they look suspicious “ violates international law

"International law"... Bwahahahahaha!!!

 

[buttercup]

No ... I still believe in due process. Using King George tactics was wrong in the 1700s and it's wrong today.

You seem to be in the minority around here, with that view. But I agree.

 

[SaxonJackson]

You seem to be in the minority around here, with that view. But I agree.

I'm all for ending the flow of drugs into the USA but they wouldn't be sold here if there wasn't a market for them. Instead of bombing boats that "may" (or may not) have drugs, I suggest stopping the boats; confiscating the drugs AND the boats; arresting the dealers and putting them into work camps. The boats could be sold and the money made could be used to pay down the national debt. The new labor force could "do the jobs that Americans won't."

 

[skews13]

Lefties are by definition on the side of the "oppressed".

Since the drug runners are brown, to the lefty that makes them the "oppressed" and thus the US the bad guys.

So the lefty wants the drugs to flow and Americans to continue to die.

You really are the ******* stupid aren't you?

 

[Leo123]

longly

White House occupants have been "going after drug smugglers" since before Richard Nixon.

Why do you think Trump will succeed where others have failed spectacularly?

Isn't repeating and doubling down on the same behavior that has failed in the past considered to be a sign of insanity?

Democrats are trying to indict Trump for blowing up drug boats and going after their supplier Maduro. That is why this will ultimately fail.

 

[Leo123]

I'm all for ending the flow of drugs into the USA but they wouldn't be sold here if there wasn't a market for them. Instead of bombing boats that "may" (or may not) have drugs, I suggest stopping the boats; confiscating the drugs AND the boats; arresting the dealers and putting them into work camps. The boats could be sold and the money made could be used to pay down the national debt. The new labor force could "do the jobs that Americans won't."

The boats are heavily armed and would have to be destroyed even if we tried to stop them.

 

[buttercup]

I'm all for ending the flow of drugs into the USA but they wouldn't be sold here if there wasn't a market for them. Instead of bombing boats that "may" (or may not) have drugs, I suggest stopping the boats; confiscating the drugs AND the boats; arresting the dealers and putting them into work camps. The boats could be sold and the money made could be used to pay down the national debt. The new labor force could "do the jobs that Americans won't."

I can't disagree with anything there. I'm as anti-drug as it gets (I hate drugs) but I also don't trust the mere words of a politician, especially one who's a proven liar. Due process is something that ALL Americans should be vigilant about, not dismissive.

But I don't believe that what's going on with Venezuela is really about drugs in the first place. I think it's yet another false justification, like the WMD excuse. I think the Empire has wanted regime change there for a long time, and to get control of their resources.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Do you support Trump’s war on drugs? He’s actively going after drug smugglers on the open seas. I support this. I think it’s about time. People who push and import drugs into the United States are killing and enslaving Americans. Tell me that addiction to drugs is not a form of slavery—it is. Drugs are addictive, and people will steal or do whatever they have to in order to get the money to buy them. This causes most of the crime in our country, much of the violent crime if not most. So I think it’s legitimate. I just wish that Congress would declare an actual war—not against any particular country, but against the organizations themselves—and specifically authorize strikes at sea. Drug smugglers caught at the border should be arrested by the military and sent to Guantanamo. Away from the border, drug arrests would be handled by the DEA.

Yeah I do but the problem will never end until there's no market. The problem is a moral problem and it begins and ends with us

 

[Woodznutz]

What's so wrong with stopping the product as well as the profits? Some states are ONLY concerned with the profits.

It's very profitable for the states, not so much for the people. The drug money that is seized all comes from users and addicts. It's a revenue stream that the states don't want to give up so they're in no hurry to stop the trade.

 

[Mac-7]

The laws of the US do not override International law because that is the law of the jungle.

No

International law has no authority over US law