Zone1 Do you claim to be an "Atheist?"

[rightwinger]

Take away "forced". What about being able to choose to display the Ten Commandments in a classroom?

It was a law in Oklahoma to display the Ten Commandments in every classroom

The first of which orders…..I am the lord, thy god. You shall have no gods before me

That doesn’t mandate religion in the classroom?

 

[Hafar1014]

Well, you should be really smart. Any word from the Almighty as to how we fix the social problems we endure?

We are empowered to solve our own problems

 

[Hafar1014]

It was a law in Oklahoma to display the Ten Commandments in every classroom

The first of which orders…..I am the lord, thy god. You shall have no gods before me

That doesn’t mandate religion in the classroom?

Its not a mandate but it does seem to cross he line

 

[Hafar1014]

Haven't you basically argued that it does matter what you believe because what you believe is going to impact the way you live...

Good point

 

[braalian]

Atheist? no, I don’t claim to know whether or not there’s a higher power

Agnostic? Yes. Totally different

 

[Hafar1014]

Țhose countries act out of politics not out of atheism

Actually, God prefers to hang out with atheists rather than fundamentalist Christians

He finds avid Christians to be pompous and judgmental

Communism is based on the religious model. Communism is the religion, the state is the church and the leader is the prophet and in cases like N Korea literally a god.

 

[Hafar1014]

Atheist? no, I don’t claim to know whether or not there’s a higher power

Agnostic? Yes. Totally different

There are two kinds of Agnostics. Idont know and I cant know. How about Im just not sure. All are reasonable

 

[braalian]

It seems to me that being agnostic is the only reasonable thing to be when it comes to religion

 

[Meriweather]

It was a law in Oklahoma to display the Ten Commandments in every classroom

The first of which orders…..I am the lord, thy god. You shall have no gods before me

That doesn’t mandate religion in the classroom?

No. It can open a discussion, or simply start thinking about what one wants to put first in his/her life. Are you against someone deciding to put God first in their life? If so, why?

 

[rightwinger]

Atheists are generally not good citizens. They don't give to charities, volunteer at soup kitchens, join the military, and so on. Many of them believe that they are "doing their part" by voting for frauds like Bernie Sanders who seek to take money from innocent taxpayers and give it to various constituencies that they deem worthy. And that is bullshit. That is not kindness or altruism; that is selfish theft.

It is this condescending attitude that makes people dislike the religious. We are the only ones capable of morality.

Atheists do good things because it makes them feel good. Ìt is easier to be nice than to be mean.

The motivation of the religious is fear. Fear of not getting into heaven, fear of going to Hell

 

[rightwinger]

No. It can open a discussion, or simply start thinking about what one wants to put first in his/her life. Are you against someone deciding to put God first in their life? If so, why?

You are welcome to worship God as you see fit. But it should be up to your parents and your church to instill those values.

Rightfully, we have a separation of church and state. It is not the role of the state to mandate what religious values you should have.

Forcing young children to read that there is only one God and that worshiping another God or not worshiping at all is a sin is not a value the state should mandate

 

[Hafar1014]

It seems to me that being agnostic is the only reasonable thing to be when it comes to religion

All beliefs are equally reasonable its the people who can be unreasonable.

 

[braalian]

All beliefs are equally reasonable its the people who can be unreasonable.

Idk

What Mormons believe is pretty goddamn unreasonable

Ditto Scientology

 

[DennisPTate]

I am a Deist.

I had to look that one up. Way to go flack.

A deist is a person who believes in the existence of a God or supreme creator based on reason, nature, and observation rather than divine revelation, scripture, or organized religion. Deists generally believe God created the universe, established natural laws, and then stepped back, allowing it to operate independently without direct intervention

• Rational Creator: A belief that a supreme being established the universe, often compared to a "clockmaker" who sets the mechanism and leaves it to run.
• Rejection of Revelation: Deists reject miracles, prophecy, religious dogma, and supernatural events, believing these are not required to understand God.
• Natural Law over Dogma:
  Deists rely on logic and scientific observation, viewing the universe's design as evidence of God.
  • Morality-Centered: Deism often emphasizes virtue, morality, and ethical living over complex religious rituals

I am of the belief that near death experience accounts are revealing that our Creator is an Intelligence composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum who has learned and in a sense "evolved" and gotten better and better and better at the creation of others over infinite time in the past. I believe that the universe is set up in such a way that our decisions and prayers and intentions have great power to improve the future because TIME may be much more than merely one straight line? I believe that our Creator is first and foremost a Scientist, Inventor and Designer who just happens to be composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum.

4. The Future is Not Fixed and Can Change​

NDEs repeatedly suggest that the future is not predestinated but it is a living work in progress – responsive to choice, love, and perspective. Across testimonies and research, NDErs report being shown “probable futures” that become a reality the moment a heart, a habit, or a society changes course. Karen Schaeffer, for example, saw one outcome for her children if she stayed in the light; but by returning, she altered that outcome entirely. A subject in Margot Grey’s research was told that even predestined events can be modified by how we encounter them. Howard Storm learned the same lesson at a global scale: collective behavior can tilt the course of history toward catastrophe or healing. Dannion Brinkley was warned that coming troubles were contingent on human choices – and that service for others is the quickest method of change. Dr. George Ritchie received a time-bounded commission that, indirectly, began modern NDE research itself. Ned Dougherty’s “Lady of Light” placed world outcomes in the quiet power of prayerful groups and aligned intention. Taken together, these testimonies portray the future not as fixed fate but as a field of possibilities – one that bends toward the decisions we make, the love we practice, and the courage we bring to each moment.

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Here are some quotations that help to explain what Energy from Quantum Vacuum really is?

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)

 

[BreezeWood]

if my kids were Muslim,

what has that have to do with religious pandering where it does not belong - the public domain.

just take your children to a mosque and let them decide between one desert bible or the other - 2.

 

[braalian]

I had to look that one up.

Really?

That kind of surprises me considering the sheer volume of religious stuff you post here…..

 

[DennisPTate]

Really?

That kind of surprises me considering the sheer volume of religious stuff you post here…..

Studying NDE accounts obsessively takes away from reading more "scholarly" writings.

www.near-death.com/

www.JohnJDavisnde.com/

 

[flack]

I had to look that one up. Way to go flack.

I am of the belief that near death experience accounts are revealing that our Creator is an Intelligence composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum who has learned and in a sense "evolved" and gotten better and better and better at the creation of others over infinite time in the past. I believe that the universe is set up in such a way that our decisions and prayers and intentions have great power to improve the future because TIME may be much more than merely one straight line? I believe that our Creator is first and foremost a Scientist, Inventor and Designer who just happens to be composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum.


Here are some quotations that help to explain what Energy from Quantum Vacuum really is?

I am also a Whovian.

 

[BreezeWood]

Atheists are generally not good citizens. They don't give to charities, volunteer at soup kitchens, join the military, and so on.

then why did they marginalize religion in the us constitution ...

because they knew the truth what the desert dwellers true history is the persecution and victimization of the innocent and did their best to put them in their bottle and seal its cork.

 

[Hafar1014]

then why did they marginalize religion in the us constitution ...

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because they knew the truth what the desert dwellers true history is the persecution and victimization of the innocent and did their best to put them in their bottle and seal its cork.

The atheist nations USSR Red China and Cambodia slaughtered over 100 million people