Zone1 do you believe in a god?

[Meriweather]

I was being flippant, my apologies. If I truly believed in a religion, I'm sure I look forward to their services and socializing with the congregation. Since I don't, I look forward to things like pickleball and socializing with family and friends, that would be my free time.

Are you saying you just imagine yourself socializing with a different set of people in a different setting?

 

[alang1216]

I know both answers for me. You only know one answer for you. Path not travelled and all.

True, but my philosophy is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[alang1216]

Are you saying you just imagine yourself socializing with a different set of people in a different setting?

The would be the biggest change I think and I like my current set of people and our settings.

 

[ding]

If I truly believed in a religion

You equate religion to God, and therein lies your problem and the problem for many. You use religion as an excuse to not seek God whereas others use religion as their God. Neither will make one enlightened enough to see reality. And seeing reality is really the only way to know God.

 

[ding]

True, but my philosophy is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Free will. We are all free to choose any damn thing we want but we are not free to avoid the consequences of our choices.

 

[alang1216]

seeing reality is really the only way to know God.

On that we agree. It is reality where we differ.

 

[alang1216]

Free will. We are all free to choose any damn thing we want but we are not free to avoid the consequences of our choices.

Consequences in this life or the next?

 

[ding]

On that we agree. It is reality where we differ.

Which is why one must travel both paths.

 

[ding]

Consequences in this life or the next?

This life. That's all I have ever discussed and will ever discuss. No one knows their fate or the fate of others. Concepts like heaven, hell, sin, forgiveness, thanksgiving, confession, worship, sacrifice, etc. are greatly misunderstood. The first three on the list should only ever be thought of in limited terms. The rest must be made manifest through practical application.

But pay no attention to me. You have religions to debunk.

 

[Grumblenuts]

we are not free to avoid the consequences of our choices.

Tell Trump.

my philosophy is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

His, if it ain't broke, break it.

 

[Meriweather]

The would be the biggest change I think and I like my current set of people and our settings.

This is difficult for me to grasp. All belief in God would change in your life are the people and settings in which you socialize and God would be equally absent to you in both?

 

[ding]

Tell Trump.

His, if it ain't broke, break it.

Breaking moral laws is not quite the same thing as breaking physical laws. It's more statistical in nature.

 

[alang1216]

This life. That's all I have ever discussed and will ever discuss. No one knows their fate or the fate of others. Concepts like heaven, hell, sin, forgiveness, thanksgiving, confession, worship, sacrifice, etc. are greatly misunderstood. The first three on the list should only ever be thought of in limited terms. The rest must be made manifest through practical application.

I don't see any adverse consequences of my actions to date so I guess I'm unlikely to change for the sake of change.

But pay no attention to me. You have religions to debunk.

Historical misconceptions to address.

 

[alang1216]

This is difficult for me to grasp. All belief in God would change in your life are the people and settings in which you socialize and God would be equally absent to you in both?

I don't see me suddenly having a belief I've never had before. It would seem to be like speaking French when I never learned to speak it.

 

[TNHarley]

i am not sure

i would like to see what others think

I dont doubt there could be a supreme creator.
Do I believe in any man made religions? No.

 

[Meriweather]

I don't see me suddenly having a belief I've never had before. It would seem to be like speaking French when I never learned to speak it.

IF you had a belief...is all you can see a different group of people and a place with which to socialize? IF you had a belief, how would God change your life?

 

[Meriweather]

Do I believe in any man made religions? No.

Do you believe any man's math? Or grammar? Or history, science, physical training?

 

[TNHarley]

Do you believe any man's math? Or grammar? Or history, science, physical training?

Please dont compare that kind of stuff to fairy tales. It makes you look silly.

 

[hobelim]

Consequences in this life or the next?

ding is already showing the consequence for setting aside Divine Law by turning to bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS that he worships and eats on his knees for spiritual life. He might as well seek spiritual life from a pretzel.

His soul died in the same day he first got down on his knees in the deranged adoration of a matzo decades ago.

He has confused faith with obstinate stupidity. This insanity is what scripture calls "the death", a curse. The realm of the dead, hell, is the state of mind of the hopelessly insane who find humor in their own pathetic aberrations.

To him reality that contradicts his bizarre beliefs every day and night is like a consuming fire that will never go out.

Hell.

 

[alang1216]

IF you had a belief...is all you can see a different group of people and a place with which to socialize? IF you had a belief, how would God change your life?

If God is going to change me, you'll have to ask Him that question. If it is me changing me, I have no idea. Might depend on which view of God I took. I might pray 5 times a day toward Mecca, or take a dip in the Ganges, or take the Joseph Smith approach and start my own cult.