Do we owe Muslims another apology?

[irosie91]

[QUOTE="Picaro, post: 20426371, member: 25684

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.[/QUOTE


from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

 

[Picaro]

[QUOTE="Picaro, post: 20426371, member: 25684

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.[/QUOTE


from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.

 

[GreatestIam]

[

No, Christianity isn't "about the same".

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers. Nor does it insist that it was intended to replace all competing institutions of government and social/political organization.

Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion.

What are Inquisitions if not exactly what you describe as not being Christian?

I cannot believe you cannot see the exact thing as Jihad.

Depends on the Inquisition. There were more than one, and they were all different; the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, and not entirely unjustified; in any case not many killed relative to how many the former Muslims rulers killed, so it can't be considered comparable to anything in Islamo-Land. All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims. The Portuguese Inquisition was pretty much along the same lines as the Spanish. The Roman Inquisition was more theological in nature, but it didn't kill hardly anybody after the stink raised by the campaign against the Cathars, who were fond of murdering priests to begin with and not the hapless noble innocents they're portrayed as in Protestant propaganda. The entire death toll for all of them combined?- maybe 6,000 to 9,000 tops, over some 400 years.

Witch burnings? A pagan thing, usually done by superstitious peasants in times of stress,wars, and instability, by locals, and not a Church campaign; the Church's position for most of its existence is that 'witchcraft' was a pagan superstition and didn't exist, whatever some local ruler or hysteria might claim otherwise.

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.

So, to you, Inquisitions and murder are justifiable.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers.

Well, not anymore, anyway. Thank goodness for scientific enlightenment!

Gender wars and gay wars are still a staple of Christianity and their homophobic and misogynous ways.

If secular forces had not brought Christianity to heel, they would be even more identical to Islam.

Both religions are a disgrace to moral people.

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Regards
DL

Rubbish.

I am not surprised that we would not agree on much since you think Inquisitions and murder are justified.

Regards
DL

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers.

Well, not anymore, anyway. Thank goodness for scientific enlightenment!

Yeah right ... 'Scientific Enlightenment' murders far more people than Christians ever did; it even outdoes Islam as a murder machine.

As dumb as that comment is, I will still respond to it by saying that scientific enlightenment brought us the knowledge that class and race are just constructs of the human mind. This knowledge has caused us to more vehemently defend the rights of "lowborn" and minorities.

 

[Picaro]

[

No, Christianity isn't "about the same".

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers. Nor does it insist that it was intended to replace all competing institutions of government and social/political organization.

Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion.

What are Inquisitions if not exactly what you describe as not being Christian?

I cannot believe you cannot see the exact thing as Jihad.

Depends on the Inquisition. There were more than one, and they were all different; the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, and not entirely unjustified; in any case not many killed relative to how many the former Muslims rulers killed, so it can't be considered comparable to anything in Islamo-Land. All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims. The Portuguese Inquisition was pretty much along the same lines as the Spanish. The Roman Inquisition was more theological in nature, but it didn't kill hardly anybody after the stink raised by the campaign against the Cathars, who were fond of murdering priests to begin with and not the hapless noble innocents they're portrayed as in Protestant propaganda. The entire death toll for all of them combined?- maybe 6,000 to 9,000 tops, over some 400 years.

Witch burnings? A pagan thing, usually done by superstitious peasants in times of stress,wars, and instability, by locals, and not a Church campaign; the Church's position for most of its existence is that 'witchcraft' was a pagan superstition and didn't exist, whatever some local ruler or hysteria might claim otherwise.

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.

So, to you, Inquisitions and murder are justifiable.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

As if I ever valued the opinions of sociopaths and loons like yourself. lol grow up.

 

[Picaro]

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers.

Well, not anymore, anyway. Thank goodness for scientific enlightenment!

Yeah right ... 'Scientific Enlightenment' murders far more people than Christians ever did; it even outdoes Islam as a murder machine.

As dumb as that comment is, I will still respond to it by saying that scientific enlightenment brought us the knowledge that class and race are just constructs of the human mind. This knowledge has caused us to more vehemently defend the rights of "lowborn" and minorities.

Yes those 'scientific' atheist states certainly are 'vehement' in their 'rights' policies. See Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot on how to handle those uppity peasants 'scientifically', and Hitler's scientific solution to his 'defective people' demographics. You of course love that stuff; most sociopaths and deviants do.

Abortions is another great way to murder millions in nice clean scientific laboratories and sell body parts for added income, too! A major Win! Win! for 'rationalists', and now, along with your ilk's dreams of kiddie rape eventually become 'normalized', we have your leaders scientifically researching exactly how old a baby can be murdered without 'violating any ethics n stuff'.

After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?


Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus' health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.

Yes, indeed, 'science marches on', into deeper and deeper insanity and circular reasoning ....

Not that sociopaths and assorted vermin should be the least concerned; nobody expects that from 'rationalists'. Thanks to 'science', there is no need to protect these babies from pedophile rapists, either, is there? Of course not, that would be 'irrational'.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And, depsite those desperate,hamhanded talking points, our scientific knowledge that humans are generally not much different from one another has led to countries attempting to ensure that all people are given equal opportunity under the law.

 

[GreatestIam]

[

No, Christianity isn't "about the same".

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers. Nor does it insist that it was intended to replace all competing institutions of government and social/political organization.

Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion.

What are Inquisitions if not exactly what you describe as not being Christian?

I cannot believe you cannot see the exact thing as Jihad.

Depends on the Inquisition. There were more than one, and they were all different; the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, and not entirely unjustified; in any case not many killed relative to how many the former Muslims rulers killed, so it can't be considered comparable to anything in Islamo-Land. All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims. The Portuguese Inquisition was pretty much along the same lines as the Spanish. The Roman Inquisition was more theological in nature, but it didn't kill hardly anybody after the stink raised by the campaign against the Cathars, who were fond of murdering priests to begin with and not the hapless noble innocents they're portrayed as in Protestant propaganda. The entire death toll for all of them combined?- maybe 6,000 to 9,000 tops, over some 400 years.

Witch burnings? A pagan thing, usually done by superstitious peasants in times of stress,wars, and instability, by locals, and not a Church campaign; the Church's position for most of its existence is that 'witchcraft' was a pagan superstition and didn't exist, whatever some local ruler or hysteria might claim otherwise.

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.

So, to you, Inquisitions and murder are justifiable.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

As if I ever valued the opinions of sociopaths and loons like yourself. lol grow up.

You are the one justifying murder and Inquisitions while I speak against them and I am the psychopath.

Ok.

Regards
DL

 

[irosie91]

[QUOTE="Picaro, post: 20426371, member: 25684

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.[/QUOTE


from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.

Pic lied again=----the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN. As a "Christian" he finds that fair. As to the "genocide of Christians by a "jewish state" " to which he refers-----IT NEVAH HAPPENED ----it is a libel on the level of the story his catechism
whore taught him about Jews making cookies out Christian blood. The idiot story happened according to the catechism whore at a time when NO JEWISH STATE EXISTED and jews had already been COMPLTELY disarmed by the STINK OF BOTH ROME AND ISLAM

 

[irosie91]

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers.

Well, not anymore, anyway. Thank goodness for scientific enlightenment!

Gender wars and gay wars are still a staple of Christianity and their homophobic and misogynous ways.

If secular forces had not brought Christianity to heel, they would be even more identical to Islam.

Both religions are a disgrace to moral people.

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Regards
DL

Rubbish.

I am not surprised that we would not agree on much since you think Inquisitions and murder are justified.

Regards
DL

Nothing new-----the islamo Nazis and rome have been JUSTIFYING the murder of jews for the past 1700 years. Long ago---when I was a child
(yeah---that long) I read their literature. They were big----(that long ago)
on the word "ZIONISTS" whom they insisted "CONTROLLED THE WORLD"----via media and money. The sluts with bombs on their stinking asses did not invent the idea

 

[Picaro]

[

No, Christianity isn't "about the same".

Christianity doesn't promote warfare and subjugation/death of all non-believers. Nor does it insist that it was intended to replace all competing institutions of government and social/political organization.

Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion.

What are Inquisitions if not exactly what you describe as not being Christian?

I cannot believe you cannot see the exact thing as Jihad.

Depends on the Inquisition. There were more than one, and they were all different; the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, and not entirely unjustified; in any case not many killed relative to how many the former Muslims rulers killed, so it can't be considered comparable to anything in Islamo-Land. All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims. The Portuguese Inquisition was pretty much along the same lines as the Spanish. The Roman Inquisition was more theological in nature, but it didn't kill hardly anybody after the stink raised by the campaign against the Cathars, who were fond of murdering priests to begin with and not the hapless noble innocents they're portrayed as in Protestant propaganda. The entire death toll for all of them combined?- maybe 6,000 to 9,000 tops, over some 400 years.

Witch burnings? A pagan thing, usually done by superstitious peasants in times of stress,wars, and instability, by locals, and not a Church campaign; the Church's position for most of its existence is that 'witchcraft' was a pagan superstition and didn't exist, whatever some local ruler or hysteria might claim otherwise.

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.

So, to you, Inquisitions and murder are justifiable.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

As if I ever valued the opinions of sociopaths and loons like yourself. lol grow up.

You are the one justifying murder and Inquisitions while I speak against them and I am the psychopath.

Ok.

Regards
DL

Ah, so in your bigoted little mind, real history is 'justifying' something if the history isn't properly laundered into your brand of PC distortions, is it? Yes, I didn't think you were here to discuss history, just smear Christians with the invented 'moral equivalency' rubbish. Too bad the context doesn't even remotely back up your fantasy.

 

[Picaro]

from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.[/QUOTE]

Pic lied again=----the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN. As a "Christian" he finds that fair. As to the "genocide of Christians by a "jewish state" " to which he refers-----IT NEVAH HAPPENED ----it is a libel on the level of the story his catechism
whore taught him about Jews making cookies out Christian blood. The idiot story happened according to the catechism whore at a time when NO JEWISH STATE EXISTED and jews had already been COMPLTELY disarmed by the STINK OF BOTH ROME AND ISLAM

Ah, poor Rosie, stuck with perpetual lying and gibberish slants, a box of incredulity she created for herself. And relative to the usual Muslim offers, allowing them the choice to leave on their own is indeed a very generous offer. As for Rome, if the racist morons running Jewish affairs at the time hadn't been utterly stupid and believing their own 'racial superiority' bullshit, they would have never got the ludicrous idea they could defeat Roman armies and their Temple would still be there today.

For the Peanut Gallery, the excellent and objective historians at Israel's finest University offer all the facts and archeological evidence one needs to verify this stuff. They aren't ashamed of Jewish history, they aren't trying to pull stupid lies out of their asses like the bigots Rosie hangs with are. One example, the last Jewish kingdom and its campaigns of massacres.

The Jewish Kingdom of Himyar (Yemen): Its Rise and Fall. - Free Online Library

The last two kings has steles made bragging about slaughtering 15,000 and 25,000 Christians, respectively. then there is the histories of Jews in Egypt and Persia, and their campaigns of inciting riots and atrocities against Christian communities. Even Maimonides was a proponent of discrimination and harassment.

And, the Jews of North Africa and Egypt and anywhere else in Islmao-Land provided not just bureaucrats and engineers but troops for their Muslim invader buddies from the Muslim Conquests on right up to the gates of Vienna. It was Jewish occupation troops conducting the persecutions of native Christians in the Muslim invasions and occupation of Spain, hence their unpopularity.

Lot of documentation out there for those interested in looking it up, most of it from Jewish sources, actually, not the stupid 'nazi' idiocy Rosie routinely resorts to, along with other silly lies. Even the Crusades and their causes are lied about repeatedly.

The entirety of Jewish 'bad luck' is self-inflicted, and caused by the very same psychological mindsets Hitler and his Nazis had and led to their ultimate defeats.

 

[irosie91]

from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.

Pic lied again=----the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN. As a "Christian" he finds that fair. As to the "genocide of Christians by a "jewish state" " to which he refers-----IT NEVAH HAPPENED ----it is a libel on the level of the story his catechism
whore taught him about Jews making cookies out Christian blood. The idiot story happened according to the catechism whore at a time when NO JEWISH STATE EXISTED and jews had already been COMPLTELY disarmed by the STINK OF BOTH ROME AND ISLAM

Ah, poor Rosie, stuck with perpetual lying and gibberish slants, a box of incredulity she created for herself. And relative to the usual Muslim offers, allowing them the choice to leave on their own is indeed a very generous offer. As for Rome, if the racist morons running Jewish affairs at the time hadn't been utterly stupid and believing their own 'racial superiority' bullshit, they would have never got the ludicrous idea they could defeat Roman armies and their Temple would still be there today.

For the Peanut Gallery, the excellent and objective historians at Israel's finest University offer all the facts and archeological evidence one needs to verify this stuff. They aren't ashamed of Jewish history, they aren't trying to pull stupid lies out of their asses like the bigots Rosie hangs with are. One example, the last Jewish kingdom and its campaigns of massacres.

The Jewish Kingdom of Himyar (Yemen): Its Rise and Fall. - Free Online Library

The last two kings has steles made bragging about slaughtering 15,000 and 25,000 Christians, respectively. then there is the histories of Jews in Egypt and Persia, and their campaigns of inciting riots and atrocities against Christian communities. Even Maimonides was a proponent of discrimination and harassment.

And, the Jews of North Africa and Egypt and anywhere else in Islmao-Land provided not just bureaucrats and engineers but troops for their Muslim invader buddies from the Muslim Conquests on right up to the gates of Vienna. It was Jewish occupation troops conducting the persecutions of native Christians in the Muslim invasions and occupation of Spain, hence their unpopularity.

Lot of documentation out there for those interested in looking it up, most of it from Jewish sources, actually, not the stupid 'nazi' idiocy Rosie routinely resorts to, along with other silly lies. Even the Crusades and their causes are lied about repeatedly.

The entirety of Jewish 'bad luck' is self-inflicted, and caused by the very same psychological mindsets Hitler and his Nazis had and led to their ultimate defeats.[/QUOTE]

I know all about that "documentation" I read as a child----in the late 50s and early 60s-----lots of contrived bullshit ----on the level of the "Christian blood cookies.
It is true----lots of it comes from ISLAM-------you've been in the mosque libraries again?

 

[irosie91]

Oh gee-----Pic the pric has INFORMATION on Maimonides leading massacres against Christians---
again

 

[irosie91]

from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.

Pic lied again=----the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN. As a "Christian" he finds that fair. As to the "genocide of Christians by a "jewish state" " to which he refers-----IT NEVAH HAPPENED ----it is a libel on the level of the story his catechism
whore taught him about Jews making cookies out Christian blood. The idiot story happened according to the catechism whore at a time when NO JEWISH STATE EXISTED and jews had already been COMPLTELY disarmed by the STINK OF BOTH ROME AND ISLAM

Ah, poor Rosie, stuck with perpetual lying and gibberish slants, a box of incredulity she created for herself. And relative to the usual Muslim offers, allowing them the choice to leave on their own is indeed a very generous offer. As for Rome, if the racist morons running Jewish affairs at the time hadn't been utterly stupid and believing their own 'racial superiority' bullshit, they would have never got the ludicrous idea they could defeat Roman armies and their Temple would still be there today.

For the Peanut Gallery, the excellent and objective historians at Israel's finest University offer all the facts and archeological evidence one needs to verify this stuff. They aren't ashamed of Jewish history, they aren't trying to pull stupid lies out of their asses like the bigots Rosie hangs with are. One example, the last Jewish kingdom and its campaigns of massacres.

The Jewish Kingdom of Himyar (Yemen): Its Rise and Fall. - Free Online Library

The last two kings has steles made bragging about slaughtering 15,000 and 25,000 Christians, respectively. then there is the histories of Jews in Egypt and Persia, and their campaigns of inciting riots and atrocities against Christian communities. Even Maimonides was a proponent of discrimination and harassment.

And, the Jews of North Africa and Egypt and anywhere else in Islmao-Land provided not just bureaucrats and engineers but troops for their Muslim invader buddies from the Muslim Conquests on right up to the gates of Vienna. It was Jewish occupation troops conducting the persecutions of native Christians in the Muslim invasions and occupation of Spain, hence their unpopularity.

Lot of documentation out there for those interested in looking it up, most of it from Jewish sources, actually, not the stupid 'nazi' idiocy Rosie routinely resorts to, along with other silly lies. Even the Crusades and their causes are lied about repeatedly.

The entirety of Jewish 'bad luck' is self-inflicted, and caused by the very same psychological mindsets Hitler and his Nazis had and led to their ultimate defeats.[/QUOTE]


for the record fellow cybies------pic the pric cannot support with REAL EVIDENCE any of his CLAIMS
JEWISH MASSACRES AGAINST CHRISTIANS---including in Yemen. He is quoting the shit upon which he was SUCKLED

 

[Picaro]

from PIC >>
the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims.


really Pic?. Can you enlighten us as to the DETAILS of the "deal"

the details were quite simple and fair: Convert to Christianity or you're free to leave and go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that deal. Many chose to lie and stay anyway, and thus couldn't be trusted and considered a 'fifth column' and threat to the national security, a perfectly reasonable assumption, and a far better deal than Muslims and their Jewish soldiers offered anybody in their conquests of mass slaughter and looting.

So, yeah ... REALLY. In contrast to the typical Jewish genocides, which involved the enthusiastic murdering of 40,000 Christians, by the last independent Jewish state in existence before the Muslim conquests, and Jewish troops joining up with them in their constant assaults on western countries for the following 1,000 years or so, all of the Inquisitions combined don't even rate a mention, insignificant historically.

Pic lied again=----the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN. As a "Christian" he finds that fair. As to the "genocide of Christians by a "jewish state" " to which he refers-----IT NEVAH HAPPENED ----it is a libel on the level of the story his catechism
whore taught him about Jews making cookies out Christian blood. The idiot story happened according to the catechism whore at a time when NO JEWISH STATE EXISTED and jews had already been COMPLTELY disarmed by the STINK OF BOTH ROME AND ISLAM

Ah, poor Rosie, stuck with perpetual lying and gibberish slants, a box of incredulity she created for herself. And relative to the usual Muslim offers, allowing them the choice to leave on their own is indeed a very generous offer. As for Rome, if the racist morons running Jewish affairs at the time hadn't been utterly stupid and believing their own 'racial superiority' bullshit, they would have never got the ludicrous idea they could defeat Roman armies and their Temple would still be there today.

For the Peanut Gallery, the excellent and objective historians at Israel's finest University offer all the facts and archeological evidence one needs to verify this stuff. They aren't ashamed of Jewish history, they aren't trying to pull stupid lies out of their asses like the bigots Rosie hangs with are. One example, the last Jewish kingdom and its campaigns of massacres.

The Jewish Kingdom of Himyar (Yemen): Its Rise and Fall. - Free Online Library

The last two kings has steles made bragging about slaughtering 15,000 and 25,000 Christians, respectively. then there is the histories of Jews in Egypt and Persia, and their campaigns of inciting riots and atrocities against Christian communities. Even Maimonides was a proponent of discrimination and harassment.

And, the Jews of North Africa and Egypt and anywhere else in Islmao-Land provided not just bureaucrats and engineers but troops for their Muslim invader buddies from the Muslim Conquests on right up to the gates of Vienna. It was Jewish occupation troops conducting the persecutions of native Christians in the Muslim invasions and occupation of Spain, hence their unpopularity.

Lot of documentation out there for those interested in looking it up, most of it from Jewish sources, actually, not the stupid 'nazi' idiocy Rosie routinely resorts to, along with other silly lies. Even the Crusades and their causes are lied about repeatedly.

The entirety of Jewish 'bad luck' is self-inflicted, and caused by the very same psychological mindsets Hitler and his Nazis had and led to their ultimate defeats.

for the record fellow cybies------pic the pric cannot support with REAL EVIDENCE any of his CLAIMS
JEWISH MASSACRES AGAINST CHRISTIANS---including in Yemen. He is quoting the shit upon which he was SUCKLED[/QUOTE]


lol Rosie Rants again .... and for the record, the Peanut Gallery can find all the info they want via search engines, so no need to let trolls like Rosie try and divert and waste my time; I could care less what trolls and bigots like or don't like, and they don't get to make demands from me.

It also seems that 'moral equivalency' fictions doesn't run both ways with the racists, either, as we can note from this particularly idiotic notion that invaders and looters are entitled to keep their plunder when they get pushed out again, if they're Islamist or or their Jewish allies:

the details were LEAVE AND LEAVE EVERY OUNCE OF WEALTH YOU OWN.

Screw those Christians, we're entitled to take everything with us! God says so! lol lol lol and also no history of these hapless innocent Muslims and Jews offering to return all the Chrisitan slaves they kidnapped, either, so we can dismiss the stupid lies that these Muslims and their Jewish fans were ever some sort of 'hapless innocent hobbits being unfairly persecuted by Da Evul Xians n Stuff!'

 

[Picaro]

Oh gee-----Pic the pric has INFORMATION on Maimonides leading massacres against Christians---
again

Yes, I do, and I've already posted it, in the History Forum. Nobody ever came along and refuted it, either, certainly not you. That's because it's well known by scholars and his biographers, and there is nothing a lunatic like you can do about it.

And, nobody said anything about massacres re Maimonides, so your hysterical strawman is just another of your lies.

 

[GreatestIam]

What are Inquisitions if not exactly what you describe as not being Christian?

I cannot believe you cannot see the exact thing as Jihad.

Depends on the Inquisition. There were more than one, and they were all different; the Spanish Inquisition was a defensive one, removing what it considered genuine existential threats to the state, and not entirely unjustified; in any case not many killed relative to how many the former Muslims rulers killed, so it can't be considered comparable to anything in Islamo-Land. All non-Christians got the same deal, a much better one than Muslims ever gave non-Muslims. The Portuguese Inquisition was pretty much along the same lines as the Spanish. The Roman Inquisition was more theological in nature, but it didn't kill hardly anybody after the stink raised by the campaign against the Cathars, who were fond of murdering priests to begin with and not the hapless noble innocents they're portrayed as in Protestant propaganda. The entire death toll for all of them combined?- maybe 6,000 to 9,000 tops, over some 400 years.

Witch burnings? A pagan thing, usually done by superstitious peasants in times of stress,wars, and instability, by locals, and not a Church campaign; the Church's position for most of its existence is that 'witchcraft' was a pagan superstition and didn't exist, whatever some local ruler or hysteria might claim otherwise.

So no, not even remotely similar to 'Jihad', even with the Crusaders, which were self-defense reactions to Muslim armies and pirates and constant attacks.

So, to you, Inquisitions and murder are justifiable.

Get thee behind me Satan.

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DL

As if I ever valued the opinions of sociopaths and loons like yourself. lol grow up.

You are the one justifying murder and Inquisitions while I speak against them and I am the psychopath.

Ok.

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DL

Ah, so in your bigoted little mind, real history is 'justifying' something if the history isn't properly laundered into your brand of PC distortions, is it? Yes, I didn't think you were here to discuss history, just smear Christians with the invented 'moral equivalency' rubbish. Too bad the context doesn't even remotely back up your fantasy.

History does not show Inquisitions. Seriously.

What a fool you are.

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DL

 

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