Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[Brain357]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Where were you when that asshole Obama was giving away taxpayer's money to corporations like it was candy?

The Democrats are the scum of this country. We all know that. They are the champions of big government and that makes them shitheads.

If you are arguing that Republicans are also big government then you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am not a Republican. They are nothing more than Democrat Light.

They are better than Democrats but that isn't saying much because the Democrats are such assholes.

The problem is not the corporations that produce jobs, tax revenues and needed goods and service. Your life would be shit without them.

The problem is the Liberals that put everybody on welfare, including corporations.

If you don't like corporations getting government money then join Conservatives like me to advocate no more welfare, subsidies, bailouts, entitlements or grants. Cut everybody off and reduce government to do only the minimal needed collective services like defense, courts, police etc.

Better than Dems? I think you are very wrong there. Reagan tripled the debt, Bush ruined a balanced budget, Trump managed to increase even Obamas deficits.... And now Trump is making a huge government power grab in trade. We don't need more managed trade, that's just another way we get corruption. Of course we need corporations. The problem is when they are in bed with politicians. When we hand out corporate welfare like candy picking winners and losers. When they are allowed to have huge monopolies and wage collusion...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

And there are lots of rich republicans who owns companies too. Remember the Koch brothers? What is your point?

In my avatar is a businessman who owns his own business the other is retired very wealthy. We laugh at stupid liberals who are wealthy envious because they are too stupid to make something of themselves.

 

[daveman]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

 

[Brain357]

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

And there are lots of rich republicans who owns companies too. Remember the Koch brothers? What is your point?

In my avatar is a businessman who owns his own business the other is retired very wealthy. We laugh at stupid liberals who are wealthy envious because they are too stupid to make something of themselves.

Yeah too stupid to get in bed with politicians and ruin our economy...

 

[Brain357]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

And there are lots of rich republicans who owns companies too. Remember the Koch brothers? What is your point?

In my avatar is a businessman who owns his own business the other is retired very wealthy. We laugh at stupid liberals who are wealthy envious because they are too stupid to make something of themselves.

Yeah too stupid to get in bed with politicians and ruin our economy...

You are a pitiful poor liberal. Go play in your sandbox.

 

[Flash]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Where were you when that asshole Obama was giving away taxpayer's money to corporations like it was candy?

The Democrats are the scum of this country. We all know that. They are the champions of big government and that makes them shitheads.

If you are arguing that Republicans are also big government then you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am not a Republican. They are nothing more than Democrat Light.

They are better than Democrats but that isn't saying much because the Democrats are such assholes.

The problem is not the corporations that produce jobs, tax revenues and needed goods and service. Your life would be shit without them.

The problem is the Liberals that put everybody on welfare, including corporations.

If you don't like corporations getting government money then join Conservatives like me to advocate no more welfare, subsidies, bailouts, entitlements or grants. Cut everybody off and reduce government to do only the minimal needed collective services like defense, courts, police etc.

Better than Dems? I think you are very wrong there. Reagan tripled the debt, Bush ruined a balanced budget, Trump managed to increase even Obamas deficits.... And now Trump is making a huge government power grab in trade. We don't need more managed trade, that's just another way we get corruption. Of course we need corporations. The problem is when they are in bed with politicians. When we hand out corporate welfare like candy picking winners and losers. When they are allowed to have huge monopolies and wage collusion...

You are confused Moon Bat.

I didn't support Reagan when he grew the size of government. I liked that he decreased income tax but didn't support him increasing taxes in other areas. You Liberals should have loved him. He was one of you.

Every President, Republican and Democrat, in my life time has supported big government and grew the size of government.

The best we are going to get out of Republicans is that they won't grow it quite as much as the filthy ass Democrats.

The problem is that nobody has the courage to do the right thing and massively cut the size of government.

If somebody actually did that I would be happy and you stupid Moon Bats would be be wailing and crying.

 

[Brain357]

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

And there are lots of rich republicans who owns companies too. Remember the Koch brothers? What is your point?

In my avatar is a businessman who owns his own business the other is retired very wealthy. We laugh at stupid liberals who are wealthy envious because they are too stupid to make something of themselves.

Yeah too stupid to get in bed with politicians and ruin our economy...

You are a pitiful poor liberal. Go play in your sandbox.

Sure big government repub. How's that corporatism working for us? Trillion dollar deficits and 1.9% growth. Pathetic.

 

[daveman]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

Can you point out where I suggested that? Kthnxbai.

 

[Brain357]

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Where were you when that asshole Obama was giving away taxpayer's money to corporations like it was candy?

The Democrats are the scum of this country. We all know that. They are the champions of big government and that makes them shitheads.

If you are arguing that Republicans are also big government then you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am not a Republican. They are nothing more than Democrat Light.

They are better than Democrats but that isn't saying much because the Democrats are such assholes.

The problem is not the corporations that produce jobs, tax revenues and needed goods and service. Your life would be shit without them.

The problem is the Liberals that put everybody on welfare, including corporations.

If you don't like corporations getting government money then join Conservatives like me to advocate no more welfare, subsidies, bailouts, entitlements or grants. Cut everybody off and reduce government to do only the minimal needed collective services like defense, courts, police etc.

Better than Dems? I think you are very wrong there. Reagan tripled the debt, Bush ruined a balanced budget, Trump managed to increase even Obamas deficits.... And now Trump is making a huge government power grab in trade. We don't need more managed trade, that's just another way we get corruption. Of course we need corporations. The problem is when they are in bed with politicians. When we hand out corporate welfare like candy picking winners and losers. When they are allowed to have huge monopolies and wage collusion...

You are confused Moon Bat.

I didn't support Reagan when he grew the size of government. I liked that he decreased income tax but didn't support him increasing taxes in other areas. You Liberals should have loved him. He was one of you.

Every President, Republican and Democrat, in my life time has supported big government and grew the size of government.

The best we are going to get out of Republicans is that they won't grow it quite as much as the filthy ass Democrats.

The problem is that nobody has the courage to do the right thing and massively cut the size of government.

If somebody actually did that I would be happy and you stupid Moon Bats would be be wailing and crying.

Well you sure aren't getting that with rump. Clinton was the only one to tackle the deficit.

 

[candycorn]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

If Trump is an example of right wing ideology…running up trillion+ yearly debts is hardly helps your “argument”

Moreover the fundamental difference between the left and right is integrity and intelligence: The average liberal has both. The average Blob Supporter does not.

If you’re the average Trump supporter you believe that Bill and Hillary Clinton have murdered dozens of people over the years. If you’re the average Trump supporter, you believe that there is this cabal of unelected people in HIS government that are constantly plotting against him and that he is powerless to stop it. If you’re the average Trump supporter, you believe that poor old Donald is not corrupt in any way and is infallible in every way. And it even gets worse when you leave intelligence alone and look at basic integrity. Didn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to be against deficit spending? What happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to be for traditional family values? What happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to believe in free trade? Again what happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to feel that the use of executive orders was not the proper way to govern? What happened?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

 

[Vandalshandle]

conservatives: The left are a bunch of shiftless bums, minorities, and scum who want free shit.
conservatives: I just don't understand why more minorities don't support us.

You're right. Maybe we should adopt the left's attitude: THERE THERE YOU POOR DUMB MINORITIES, ITS OKAY, WE KNOW YOU CANT POSSIBLY SUCCEED WITHOUT WHITE LIBERALS HELP

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Conservative "roots"? Who would that be, George Wallace?

To racists, everything's about race.

I'm talking about support for the Constitution. Ever read it? It's fascinating. Bears little resemblance to what we've got today. Leftists in both parties seem to think it's optional.

Well, I still trying to figure out who the "roots" of the conservative GOP is that you seem to think is the true home of the GOP. It wasn't Ike. Nixon was a crook, but he wasn't what you would call the conservative root. Ford? Don't make me laugh. Reagan? He is the one who signed into law free phones for the poor, and Free ER at hospitals for the indigent. Bush I? Don't think so. He gave us free RX with Medicare. Bush II? He called himself a compassionate conservative. Who was this mystery man?

 

[Vandalshandle]

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

 

[francoHFW]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

You can vote yourself into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

 

[Dr Grump]

I'm talking about support for the Constitution. Ever read it? It's fascinating. Bears little resemblance to what we've got today. Leftists in both parties seem to think it's optional.

Countries, things, people outgrow other things, people and countries. It's an old document that probably needs a few more amendments.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

If Trump is an example of right wing ideology…running up trillion+ yearly debts is hardly helps your “argument”

Moreover the fundamental difference between the left and right is integrity and intelligence: The average liberal has both. The average Blob Supporter does not.

If you’re the average Trump supporter you believe that Bill and Hillary Clinton have murdered dozens of people over the years. If you’re the average Trump supporter, you believe that there is this cabal of unelected people in HIS government that are constantly plotting against him and that he is powerless to stop it. If you’re the average Trump supporter, you believe that poor old Donald is not corrupt in any way and is infallible in every way. And it even gets worse when you leave intelligence alone and look at basic integrity. Didn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to be against deficit spending? What happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to be for traditional family values? What happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to believe in free trade? Again what happened? DIdn’t you guys (the average Trump supporter) used to feel that the use of executive orders was not the proper way to govern? What happened?

He’s still in your head, huh loser?


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[Sun Devil 92]

George Bush was and is a moron.

We've reached the point where entitlements are going to crush us.

 

[K9Buck]

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

When did you become an advocate for limiting government power?

 

[Billiejeens]

Yeah like all that trump socialist takeover of trade. Lets give politicians more power, great idea...

When did you become an advocate for limiting government power?

Umm

Is it when Donald J. Trump became the Head of The Government?