daveman
Diamond Member
It's funny how the left pretends that Democrats didn't have a hand in creating the current tax structure which they feel unfairly benefits "the rich" at the expense of "the working class".
Idiots.
Idiots.
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Republicans? Of course
Except there are no classes. We all work.
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
Do Republicans Really Want to Cut Taxes on the Wealthy and Raise Them on Everyone Else
Do Republicans Really Want to Cut Taxes on the Wealthy and Raise Them on Everyone Else
Kinda looks that way based on recent history
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
But it's not equal. When you look at equality, you must look at how your "equal percentage" affects people. That is in no way equal. Less than 10% is never going to happen. I mean, maybe you have visions of killing government "sugar plums" dancing in your head... but it will never happen.
What we need is an equal BURDEN... not an equal percentage.
You may not have gotten the memo on this, Flaylo...but we've almost reached the point where fully 50% of the population pays no income tax at all while the top 5% hand over 50% of the taxes paid in this country. I'm not quite sure where the "fairness" is in that.
When you manipulate numbers, you can come up with figures like that. Unfortunately, it's a fallacy to the truth. First of all, you state that 50% pay no income taxes, and then go on to say that the top 5% pays over 50% of the taxes. What you fail to state is that the 50% who pay no federal "income tax" do pay payroll taxes. You also fail to include the fact that the top 5% of income earners pay very little in payroll taxes, which evens things out a great deal. On top of that, you are only including "income taxes" when you say the top 5% pays 50% of all taxes. This is an outright lie. They only pay around 30% of all federal taxes, yet they earn 45% of all income. Federal Income taxes only account for 40% of all federal revenues, so your statement is incorrect.
As for the 50% who do pay some in payroll taxes, they pay much higher rates in state taxes than the wealthy do. In all but a couple of states, the lowest income earners pay the highest percentage while the highest income earners pay the least.
How is what I posted a "fallacy"? I'm quite aware that the bottom 50% pay payroll taxes which is why I used the term "income tax". Here's the thing, Auditor...when the bottom 50% pays that payroll tax, on average they end up collecting far more out of the system than what they've paid in, which means in essence they aren't paying a tax at all.
Republicans? Of course
Except there are no classes. We all work.
Please be more clueless.
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
But it's not equal. When you look at equality, you must look at how your "equal percentage" affects people. That is in no way equal. Less than 10% is never going to happen. I mean, maybe you have visions of killing government "sugar plums" dancing in your head... but it will never happen.
What we need is an equal BURDEN... not an equal percentage.
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
Why 10%? Where does this number come from? What data and research tells you that 10% is the right number? And 10% of what exactly?
I'd like to see everyone pay the same percentage. Less than 10%.
But then I like people being treated equally. We are Americans. We all have the responsibility to support our country. And we shouldn't put a burden on anyone else what we don't accept ourselves.
But it's not equal. When you look at equality, you must look at how your "equal percentage" affects people. That is in no way equal. Less than 10% is never going to happen. I mean, maybe you have visions of killing government "sugar plums" dancing in your head... but it will never happen.
What we need is an equal BURDEN... not an equal percentage.
And how exactly is placing the same percentage of taxation on every American not placing an equal burden on them? If everyone has to pay 5% of their income. Then their burden is all the same. It's 5%.
And less than 10% can and will happen if people like you stop pretending it can't.
What's amazing is Ben Franklin and many in his day considered 10% and extremely high tax burden. And you think it's not enough. Do you honestly believe the government should be forcing Americans to work till atleast April before they see a cent of their own money?