Do liberals want a parasite tax? It would seem consistent:

[francoHFW]

Your convoluted stats that show the wealthy making so much don't account for the reality of the modern global world. Of course the CEO of an international is making more than the generic checker at any single store in the US. It's unrealistic to expect to /not/ see such a reflection in the stats. The stupid comes in when the cashier truly believes, is encouraged to believe, that (s)he, who can't even make change without the register doing the math for her, could possibly do the job of the CEO and oversee the health, viability, and profits of an international string of stores that employee's thousands and juggles billions of dollars in assets on a daily basis.

The dolt can barely even get her ass into work on time, (s)he can't even be trusted to balance her damn till at the end of her shift, we're forced to pay managers to do that, (s)he gives two ***** for the state of the company, only cares for her pathetic little social life. Yes, that green grass on the other side of the fence hides a rainbow pot... of fools gold. Dolts have no clue what it takes to even run a small business, much less a corporation, or a global conglomerate, but yeah, sure, they are worth more to the company and deserve more "equal" pay as the CEO's, managers, and lawyers who make the hard decisions which make or break the company. ~rolls eyes~ Ya'll might have better luck finding leprechauns, than expecting a company /not/ to pay top wages to the executives. I've written fantasy stories that are more realistic than the lie you rich haters are spouting...

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

 

[my2¢]

I'm all for my Cleveland Browns to be assessed a parasite tax. Something has got to be done about their ineptitude. Then if it works expand on the idea.

 

[Rustic]

can you show me a real life example of a 1% getting gouged by taxes ? Good luck . I think the only person to pay full % of taxes is a lottery winner.

Let's not forget all the little fees n taxes hidden everywhere . In utility , cable , phone bills . Sales taxes , tolls , GAS TAXES!

add all this together see what people's real tax rate are. Bill Gates n I pull up to the gas station. We pay the same taxes when we fill up.

Quit falling down the well…

Only ******* morons think a progressive tax of any sort is fair… It does nothing for the country as a whole - except divide it.

If you're a braindead dupe...worked everywhere and every time EXCEPT in the brainwashed America of the last 30 years....

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

We've been a hybrid socialized country for a while, progressing more and more to socialism, yet are wage gap keeps growing and growing, what's up with that.

See if you can spot it lol:

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release - Financial Accounts of the United States - Current Release
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

Ha this is a total non sequitur. Looking at one statistic and ignoring every other variable out there.

Has the US become more progressive or less progressive since 1945? Add that into you're equation.

One stat? LOL. We've gone to Hell under Reaganism the last 35 years, and thanks to the total BS GOP propaganda machine and cowardly corporate media, the majority don't know shytte. So you're saying no taxes of ANY KIND if income is under 50k, or just fed income tax? Because right now, if you count ALL TAXES AND FEES, we have a flat tax for EVERYONE, with all new wealth staying with the richest on average. Thanks New BS GOP.

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

 

[Skull Pilot]

he didn't veto big spending bills did he?
Noo he didn't

no but he would have if Congress press electorate etc wanted him too.

so like I said he wasn't a small government guy just another hypocrite

he was a small govt guy but without a conservative majority 1+1=2

and he didn't veto any big spending bills

 

[danielpalos]

can you show me a real life example of a 1% getting gouged by taxes ? Good luck . I think the only person to pay full % of taxes is a lottery winner.

Let's not forget all the little fees n taxes hidden everywhere . In utility , cable , phone bills . Sales taxes , tolls , GAS TAXES!

add all this together see what people's real tax rate are. Bill Gates n I pull up to the gas station. We pay the same taxes when we fill up.

Quit falling down the well…

Only ******* morons think a progressive tax of any sort is fair… It does nothing for the country as a whole - except divide it.

If you're a braindead dupe...worked everywhere and every time EXCEPT in the brainwashed America of the last 30 years....

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

See if you can spot it lol:

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release - Financial Accounts of the United States - Current Release
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

Ha this is a total non sequitur. Looking at one statistic and ignoring every other variable out there.

Has the US become more progressive or less progressive since 1945? Add that into you're equation.

One stat? LOL. We've gone to Hell under Reaganism the last 35 years, and thanks to the total BS GOP propaganda machine and cowardly corporate media, the majority don't know shytte. So you're saying no taxes of ANY KIND if income is under 50k, or just fed income tax? Because right now, if you count ALL TAXES AND FEES, we have a flat tax for EVERYONE, with all new wealth staying with the richest on average. Thanks New BS GOP.

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

 

[Rustic]

Quit falling down the well…

Only ******* morons think a progressive tax of any sort is fair… It does nothing for the country as a whole - except divide it.

If you're a braindead dupe...worked everywhere and every time EXCEPT in the brainwashed America of the last 30 years....

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Ha this is a total non sequitur. Looking at one statistic and ignoring every other variable out there.

Has the US become more progressive or less progressive since 1945? Add that into you're equation.

One stat? LOL. We've gone to Hell under Reaganism the last 35 years, and thanks to the total BS GOP propaganda machine and cowardly corporate media, the majority don't know shytte. So you're saying no taxes of ANY KIND if income is under 50k, or just fed income tax? Because right now, if you count ALL TAXES AND FEES, we have a flat tax for EVERYONE, with all new wealth staying with the richest on average. Thanks New BS GOP.

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

 

[danielpalos]

If you're a braindead dupe...worked everywhere and every time EXCEPT in the brainwashed America of the last 30 years....

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

One stat? LOL. We've gone to Hell under Reaganism the last 35 years, and thanks to the total BS GOP propaganda machine and cowardly corporate media, the majority don't know shytte. So you're saying no taxes of ANY KIND if income is under 50k, or just fed income tax? Because right now, if you count ALL TAXES AND FEES, we have a flat tax for EVERYONE, with all new wealth staying with the richest on average. Thanks New BS GOP.

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

he didn't veto big spending bills did he?
Noo he didn't

no but he would have if Congress press electorate etc wanted him too.

so like I said he wasn't a small government guy just another hypocrite

he was a small govt guy but without a conservative majority 1+1=2

and he didn't veto any big spending bills

Why would he veto them if there wasn't enough support for vetoing them??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

 

[Skull Pilot]

he didn't veto big spending bills did he?
Noo he didn't

no but he would have if Congress press electorate etc wanted him too.

so like I said he wasn't a small government guy just another hypocrite

he was a small govt guy but without a conservative majority 1+1=2

and he didn't veto any big spending bills

Why would he veto them if there wasn't enough support for vetoing them??

gee I don't know to not be a hypocrite?
to stand up for his principals?
and you don't know if the vetoes would have been overturned or not

 

[francoHFW]

If you're a braindead dupe...worked everywhere and every time EXCEPT in the brainwashed America of the last 30 years....

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

One stat? LOL. We've gone to Hell under Reaganism the last 35 years, and thanks to the total BS GOP propaganda machine and cowardly corporate media, the majority don't know shytte. So you're saying no taxes of ANY KIND if income is under 50k, or just fed income tax? Because right now, if you count ALL TAXES AND FEES, we have a flat tax for EVERYONE, with all new wealth staying with the richest on average. Thanks New BS GOP.

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!
Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

 

[Rustic]

The moron speaks

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Yea no matter what the tax plan is under the fed income tax, it always comes out to be around 18 percent of what working Americans are making. That IS the problem of the our current tax code. Thanks for proving my point that poor/middle class people are paying 18 an percent tax rate. That's a problem.

And are you honestly trying to argue the Carter era was better than the Reagan era? Our original problem is getting off of gold standard during progressive republican Nixon era. We often joke about how low the prices were back before Nixon, but this is a false equivalency, since their 50 dollars was quantitatively worth a lot more than what we call 200 dollars today. That moment is where the us went astray. Everything subsequent to this moment should be judged only by everything after this moment.

If you want to dig deep to the 40s, we're talking about a completely different economic America. Remember, it was only the Great Depression in America, and FDR extended the Great Depression for 10 years past everywhere else in the world. And if you want to look at good tax policy during this era, contrast Wilsons presidency, with Calvin Coolidges presidency....Ushered in the greatest economic growth ever in American history.

Tax Policy, Coolidge Style

Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

Na, People should not depend on the federal government…

 

[francoHFW]

You dupes are incredible...After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!
Definitely the middle class better off under Carter than now. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

Na, People should not depend on the federal government…

That doesn't mean the gov't should screw over the nonrich like they have the last 35 years. But thanks for the message from the greedy idiot rich. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university, much higher taxes on the richest, and MANY programs for training the UE before Reagan came along, you know. Talking basically free Cal. U's in the sixties. YOU dupes think it was all crazy radicals protesting. Think again.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet… Fact

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

Na, People should not depend on the federal government…

That doesn't mean the gov't should screw over the nonrich like they have the last 35 years. But thanks for the message from the greedy idiot rich. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university, much higher taxes on the richest, and MANY programs for training the UE before Reagan came along, you know. Talking basically free Cal. U's in the sixties. YOU dupes think it was all crazy radicals protesting. Think again.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

Your ***** hurts?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university,

yes and we could build huge subway systems!! Now the govt is lib soviet socialist and simply wastes so much of the nations GDP that we are broke and deeply in debt. This is a staggering loss given the huge technological progress we have made that should have made us all much richer. Imagine, we pay an extra $7500 per person per year for healthcare just because we have a soviet system. That alone would be enough to transform America.

 

[francoHFW]

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or civics.

Government is Socialism.

That is why government fails

Capitalism has boom and bust cycles.

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

Na, People should not depend on the federal government…

That doesn't mean the gov't should screw over the nonrich like they have the last 35 years. But thanks for the message from the greedy idiot rich. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university, much higher taxes on the richest, and MANY programs for training the UE before Reagan came along, you know. Talking basically free Cal. U's in the sixties. YOU dupes think it was all crazy radicals protesting. Think again.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

Your ***** hurts?

My country hurts. The GOP has wrecked the middle class and our infrastructure the last 30 years, all to pander to the rich, dupe. And you dupes are clueless. Just know total BULLSHYTTE character assassination propaganda of Dems.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

no but he would have if Congress press electorate etc wanted him too.

so like I said he wasn't a small government guy just another hypocrite

he was a small govt guy but without a conservative majority 1+1=2

and he didn't veto any big spending bills

Why would he veto them if there wasn't enough support for vetoing them??

gee I don't know to not be a hypocrite?
to stand up for his principals?
and you don't know if the vetoes would have been overturned or not

Republicans and Democrats stand up to be reelected as they should. Libertarians stand for principles and have no influence whatsoever. Too subtle for you?

 

[Rustic]

That is why government fails

Capitalism is power divided among millions of companies so boom and bust cycles affecting all of them are impossible it's only when federal monolithic monopolistic regulation is inserted that boom and bust cycles are possible. Great Depression and recent housing collapse are perfect examples .

BS. You need gov't regulation or the natural greed of businesses run to maximize profits will create corrupt bubbles like 1929, 1989, and 2008- all of course under crony GOP rule...

Na, People should not depend on the federal government…

That doesn't mean the gov't should screw over the nonrich like they have the last 35 years. But thanks for the message from the greedy idiot rich. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university, much higher taxes on the richest, and MANY programs for training the UE before Reagan came along, you know. Talking basically free Cal. U's in the sixties. YOU dupes think it was all crazy radicals protesting. Think again.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

Your ***** hurts?

My country hurts. The GOP has wrecked the middle class and our infrastructure the last 30 years, all to pander to the rich, dupe. And you dupes are clueless. Just know total BULLSHYTTE character assassination propaganda of Dems.

Your federal government bureaucracy hurts… Along with your ***** apparently

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[The GOP has wrecked the middle class

actually liberal taxes and regulation shipped their jobs to China which is why they voted for Trump. Plus, the liberal attack on their families schools children and religion helped a great deal to wreck them.

 

[francoHFW]

. We used to have VERY cheap or free public university,

yes and we could build huge subway systems!! Now the govt is lib soviet socialist and simply wastes so much of the nations GDP that we are broke and deeply in debt. This is a staggering loss given the huge technological progress we have made that should have made us all much richer. Imagine, we pay an extra $7500 per person per year for healthcare just because we have a soviet system. That alone would be enough to transform America.

Total bs. We have a GOP oligarchy giveaway to the rich, the middle class and infrastructure ruined the last 35 years. At least with ACA we gave guaranteed health care and know how much that costs and have a system to slow down cost rises, superdupe. FIX IT!! More regs on costs, more competition- takes a little time, dupes.