Dissolve political parties?

[Unkotare]

 

[Pogo]

Linear politics is really the downfall of our freedoms and rights. Over a hundred years ago men drew lines in the sand and stood for their ideals. Yet those lines have changed very little since their inception. Our current view must become 3 dimensional, allowing for more ideas to be heard. Instead of left versus right, place ideas and positions on a 3 dimensional polynomial. As more issues are placed along the edges it eventually would become spherical. This would allow us to increase or decrease our physical representation of political positions, rather than: left, right, and the occasional middle.

Oh brother, another one who thinks he's 'deep'.....

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Haters gonna hate ;p

I'm not trying to sound deep I just think it's time for a drastic change. But if you prefer the Patriot Act or the NDAA keep checking that R or D they paid millions of dollars to place permanently on that ballot.

Pay no attention to Unk. He's the board fulltime troll. Welcome to the site.

 

[Pogo]

Nothing in the Constitution sets up, or even refers to, political parties.

But there's more than enough in there that precludes the banning or prohibiting of them.

Apparently, someone hasn't read the 1st amendment.

OK Brainiac. Where does the Constitution set up political parties, and where does this thread say anything about "banning" or "prohibiting" anything?

Some of y'all are so locked down in your tiny little world you can apparently only think in terms of "banning", not "doing". More's the pity.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

But there's more than enough in there that precludes the banning or prohibiting of them.

Apparently, someone hasn't read the 1st amendment.

OK Brainiac. Where does the Constitution set up political parties, and where does this thread say anything about "banning" or "prohibiting" anything?

Some of y'all are so locked down in your tiny little world you can apparently only think in terms of "banning", not "doing". More's the pity.

The 1st Amendment protects the creation and maintaining of Political parties. Nothing in the construction operation or goals of a political party are illegal or can be made illegal. They are regulated and policed by the Government to ensure they do not violate all applicable laws as the 1st Allows.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Think some founding father suggested we don't have political parties since they only divide us. I agree.

Yay or Nay?

On a related subject, dissolve the electoral college and decide Presidents purely by popular vote? Yay.

Yay or Nay?

Unless political parties agreed to voluntarily ‘dissolve,’ compelling them to do so by law would be un-Constitutional, as the First Amendment guarantees the right to freely associate.

As for the EC, that would require a Constitutional amendment to ‘dissolve,’ and such an amendment is problematic as it would likely conflict with Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution “guarantee[ing] to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government…”

The EC affords the residents of every state the ability to elect their representatives to vote for president, where representative democracy is the cornerstone of a republican form of government.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

There can be a happy medium between a book sized ballot and laws designed to keep anyone not a R or D off the ballot.

I have NEVER gotten a ballot for Federal office with just a D or R choice, where the hell do you live? The procedures are set by the States and every election plenty of people get on the ballet for most of the offices.

 

[rdean]

Think some founding father suggested we don't have political parties since they only divide us. I agree.

Yay or Nay?

On a related subject, dissolve the electoral college and decide Presidents purely by popular vote? Yay.

Yay or Nay?

Considering the Democratic Party is a coalition party made up of blacks, whites, browns, rich, poor, educated, uneducated, gay, straight, women, men, college professors, scientist and the uneducated, the religious, atheists, and so on, how is it a party of division? The GOP is 90% white. Now "THAT'S" division. Division from the rest of the country.

 

[Pogo]

Apparently, someone hasn't read the 1st amendment.

OK Brainiac. Where does the Constitution set up political parties, and where does this thread say anything about "banning" or "prohibiting" anything?

Some of y'all are so locked down in your tiny little world you can apparently only think in terms of "banning", not "doing". More's the pity.

The 1st Amendment protects the creation and maintaining of Political parties. Nothing in the construction operation or goals of a political party are illegal or can be made illegal. They are regulated and policed by the Government to ensure they do not violate all applicable laws as the 1st Allows.

And what the fuck does any of that have to do with this thread?

 

[Unkotare]

OK Brainiac. Where does the Constitution set up political parties, and where does this thread say anything about "banning" or "prohibiting" anything?

Some of y'all are so locked down in your tiny little world you can apparently only think in terms of "banning", not "doing". More's the pity.

The 1st Amendment protects the creation and maintaining of Political parties. Nothing in the construction operation or goals of a political party are illegal or can be made illegal. They are regulated and policed by the Government to ensure they do not violate all applicable laws as the 1st Allows.

And what the fuck does any of that have to do with this thread?

Everything. What are you confused about?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

OK Brainiac. Where does the Constitution set up political parties, and where does this thread say anything about "banning" or "prohibiting" anything?

Some of y'all are so locked down in your tiny little world you can apparently only think in terms of "banning", not "doing". More's the pity.

The 1st Amendment protects the creation and maintaining of Political parties. Nothing in the construction operation or goals of a political party are illegal or can be made illegal. They are regulated and policed by the Government to ensure they do not violate all applicable laws as the 1st Allows.

And what the fuck does any of that have to do with this thread?

You implied that the Constitution does not protect political parties from being banned or closed by the Government.

 

[Pogo]

The 1st Amendment protects the creation and maintaining of Political parties. Nothing in the construction operation or goals of a political party are illegal or can be made illegal. They are regulated and policed by the Government to ensure they do not violate all applicable laws as the 1st Allows.

And what the fuck does any of that have to do with this thread?

You implied that the Constitution does not protect political parties from being banned or closed by the Government.

Bull SHIT. Where the fuck are you and the gun nut getting this "banning" crapola? There's nothing in this thread about "banning" anything. Except for the troll up above with the red herring. Wtf?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Dissolving political parties violates the constitution.

Changing the way we elect the President requires a constitutional amendment.

You will not see either anytime soon, if at all.

Unfortunate that you're such an idiot. Nothing in the Constitution sets up, or even refers to, political parties.

Welcome to our country. Please learn our Constitution. Duh.

You did not post this? Someone hack your account?

 

[Pogo]

Dissolving political parties violates the constitution.

Changing the way we elect the President requires a constitutional amendment.

You will not see either anytime soon, if at all.

Unfortunate that you're such an idiot. Nothing in the Constitution sets up, or even refers to, political parties.

Welcome to our country. Please learn our Constitution. Duh.

You did not post this? Someone hack your account?

Good god dood - take a remedial reading course.
Where do you see any indication whatsoever of anyone "banning" anything in that?



There is nothing in the United States Constitution referring to political parties. At all. So the gun nut is full of shit.

Nor is it relevant here because the fact remains, the question in this thread never made any suggestion about "banning" anything.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Unfortunate that you're such an idiot. Nothing in the Constitution sets up, or even refers to, political parties.

Welcome to our country. Please learn our Constitution. Duh.

You did not post this? Someone hack your account?

Good god dood - take a remedial reading course.
Where do you see any indication whatsoever of anyone "banning" anything in that?



There is nothing in the United States Constitution referring to political parties. At all. So the gun nut is full of shit.

Nor is it relevant here because the fact remains, the question in this thread never made any suggestion about "banning" anything.

You specifically responded to his claim the Constitution prevent dissolving political parties by stating it did no such thing. The one that needs a lesson in reading and writing would be you.

 

[Pogo]

You did not post this? Someone hack your account?

Good god dood - take a remedial reading course.
Where do you see any indication whatsoever of anyone "banning" anything in that?



There is nothing in the United States Constitution referring to political parties. At all. So the gun nut is full of shit.

Nor is it relevant here because the fact remains, the question in this thread never made any suggestion about "banning" anything.

You specifically responded to his claim the Constitution prevent dissolving political parties by stating it did no such thing. The one that needs a lesson in reading and writing would be you.

Not if you read it in, you know, English...

You frickin' clowns that just make up your own history as you go along kill me.

 

[Iceman]

Think some founding father suggested we don't have political parties since they only divide us. I agree.

Yay or Nay?

On a related subject, dissolve the electoral college and decide Presidents purely by popular vote? Yay.

Yay or Nay?

Yay on dissolving political parties

Dissolve elections as well. We need a right wing military coup to "liquidate" the politicians in DC and Wall Street. Than enact a nationalist populist program to move the country forward.

 

[rdean]

Think some founding father suggested we don't have political parties since they only divide us. I agree.

Yay or Nay?

On a related subject, dissolve the electoral college and decide Presidents purely by popular vote? Yay.

Yay or Nay?

Considering the Democratic Party is a coalition party made up of blacks, whites, browns, rich, poor, educated, uneducated, gay, straight, women, men, college professors, scientist and the uneducated, the religious, atheists, and so on, how is it a party of division? The GOP is 90% white. Now "THAT'S" division. Division from the rest of the country.

I can never understand why Republicans think others would join their dirty party. Failed and ruinous policies and trying to humiliate minorities and then insisting it's "others" who keep us divided.

 

[Contumacious]

Think some founding father suggested we don't have political parties since they only divide us. I agree.

Yay or Nay?

On a related subject, dissolve the electoral college and decide Presidents purely by popular vote? Yay.

Yay or Nay?

Yay.

The purpose of the constitution is to secure our UNalienable rights.

Political parties ,or FACTIONS s the Founding Fathers called them, are dangerous.

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[Delta4Embassy]

"In George Washington's 1796 Farewell Address, President Washington warned the American people of the dangers political parties pose to the nation's government (that of the United States under the Constitution). Considering the current government's stalemate and the abilities of political parties to “divide a nation”, it seems most evident that he was right in expressing his concerns for the future of this country and for the welfare of its people.

As it appears, elected officials are more concerned with maintaining their own party's control over their rivals rather than serving the interests of the people and opens up the debate on whether political parties should continue to dominate politics in the United States of America at the expense of the American people and at the expense of a functioning government."
Political parties should be banned in the United States of America. | A conversation on TED.com

Exactly how it seems to be today. Democrats vs Republicans every day back n forth. Supposedly Congress and the House are supposed to be doing the will of their constituents, not the will of their party. Unless that changes, we should ban political parties and make every member of Congress stand alone. Remove the temptation to give their loyalty to a political party, and force it to go to their state's peoples.

 

[Contumacious]

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As it appears, elected officials are more concerned with maintaining their own party's control over their rivals rather than serving the interests of the people .

Demagogue politicians seek power.

Grandstanding to impress powerful factions allows then to acquire that power.