Did You Know Cheney et al Are Convicted War Criminals?!: Issue Heading to UN

[Silhouette]

Before this link disappears:

May 13, 2012 8:28 am

In the first verdict of its kind since former President George W. Bush left office, he and several members of his administration have been successfully convicted in absentia of war crimes in Malaysia.

Yes, this is a BFD. [assuming 'Big Fucking Deal']

..This past Friday, a five panel tribunal delivered a unanimous guilty verdict after a week long trial that, unsurprisingly, was not covered by American media. The witnesses included several ex-Guantanamo detainees that gave testimony on the conditions and human rights violations that were systematically carried out under orders of the Bush administration.

Former President Bush, Former Vice-President Dick Cheney, Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo that crafted the legal ‘justification’ for torture that basically said, ‘we can if we want to even if it’s illegal’ were the defendants. None were present, of course, but international war crime trials do not require the presence of the accused. The trial was run according to the standards set by the Nuremberg Trials to convict war criminals after World War II.


Professor Gurdial Singh Nijar, who headed the prosecution said, “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts”.

The United States is subject to international law which makes this trial significant beyond the borders of Malaysia. Foreign Policy Journal reports:


President Lamin told a packed courtroom: “As a tribunal of conscience, the tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council...

..“The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly.

“The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions.” ? George W. Bush, Dick Cheney Convicted Of War Crimes

Wow! Didn't know that had already happened. Makes you wonder if Russia & China's rise to power in the UN is a dark omen for any of these convicted 8 war criminals being harbored here in the US?

Gonna be hard to keep friends abroad when we're shielding the equivalent of the 3rd Reicht here on US soil.

 

[deltex1]

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[PaintMyHouse]

Why do you think they don't leave the US? They really can't, for life.

 

[Silhouette]

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Are you saying the Cheney Administration being convicted war criminals is not news?

 

[BobPlumb]

Before this link disappears:

May 13, 2012 8:28 am

In the first verdict of its kind since former President George W. Bush left office, he and several members of his administration have been successfully convicted in absentia of war crimes in Malaysia.

Yes, this is a BFD. [assuming 'Big Fucking Deal']

..This past Friday, a five panel tribunal delivered a unanimous guilty verdict after a week long trial that, unsurprisingly, was not covered by American media. The witnesses included several ex-Guantanamo detainees that gave testimony on the conditions and human rights violations that were systematically carried out under orders of the Bush administration.

Former President Bush, Former Vice-President Dick Cheney, Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo that crafted the legal ‘justification’ for torture that basically said, ‘we can if we want to even if it’s illegal’ were the defendants. None were present, of course, but international war crime trials do not require the presence of the accused. The trial was run according to the standards set by the Nuremberg Trials to convict war criminals after World War II.


Professor Gurdial Singh Nijar, who headed the prosecution said, “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts”.

The United States is subject to international law which makes this trial significant beyond the borders of Malaysia. Foreign Policy Journal reports:


President Lamin told a packed courtroom: “As a tribunal of conscience, the tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council...

..“The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly.

“The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions.” ? George W. Bush, Dick Cheney Convicted Of War Crimes

Wow! Didn't know that had already happened. Makes you wonder if Russia & China's rise to power in the UN is a dark omen for any of these convicted 8 war criminals being harbored here in the US?

Gonna be hard to keep friends abroad when we're shielding the equivalent of the 3rd Reicht here on US soil.

Wonder if Obama will be added the list because of the drone assassinations?

 

[Silhouette]

Why do you think they don't leave the US? They really can't, for life.

I thought I remembered hearing that Cheney was abroad just this year or last?

I know though, can you imagine him trying to go to Malaysia or an African country or anywhere in the Middle East? The French might even arrest him too. They don't play favorites and consider the world community more equally than the US does.

 

[Silhouette]

Before this link disappears:

May 13, 2012 8:28 am

In the first verdict of its kind since former President George W. Bush left office, he and several members of his administration have been successfully convicted in absentia of war crimes in Malaysia.

Yes, this is a BFD. [assuming 'Big Fucking Deal']

..This past Friday, a five panel tribunal delivered a unanimous guilty verdict after a week long trial that, unsurprisingly, was not covered by American media. The witnesses included several ex-Guantanamo detainees that gave testimony on the conditions and human rights violations that were systematically carried out under orders of the Bush administration.

Former President Bush, Former Vice-President Dick Cheney, Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo that crafted the legal ‘justification’ for torture that basically said, ‘we can if we want to even if it’s illegal’ were the defendants. None were present, of course, but international war crime trials do not require the presence of the accused. The trial was run according to the standards set by the Nuremberg Trials to convict war criminals after World War II.


Professor Gurdial Singh Nijar, who headed the prosecution said, “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts”.

The United States is subject to international law which makes this trial significant beyond the borders of Malaysia. Foreign Policy Journal reports:


President Lamin told a packed courtroom: “As a tribunal of conscience, the tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council...

..“The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly.

“The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions.” ? George W. Bush, Dick Cheney Convicted Of War Crimes

Wow! Didn't know that had already happened. Makes you wonder if Russia & China's rise to power in the UN is a dark omen for any of these convicted 8 war criminals being harbored here in the US?

Gonna be hard to keep friends abroad when we're shielding the equivalent of the 3rd Reicht here on US soil.

Wonder if Obama will be added the list because of the drone assassinations?

He should be. I agree. They are machiavellian. Imagine if Russia had drones flying over the US shooting randomly at citizens here they deemed were enemies of the Motherland?

 

[Camp]

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Are you saying the Cheney Administration being convicted war criminals is not news?

Nope, not really news, but played down by the media and not given enough coverage to make the mass's aware. Many just look at Malaysia and blow it off. Like they don't count, but while these war criminals may be able to travel to some very friendly countries like Canada, they dare not go to Muslim countries. Your former President, for the first time in history, can not travel freely in the world without the risk of being arrested as a war criminal.

 

[Pete7469]

Convicted by whom?

A bunch of self interested commies from the UN?

 

[Camp]

Before this link disappears:



Wow! Didn't know that had already happened. Makes you wonder if Russia & China's rise to power in the UN is a dark omen for any of these convicted 8 war criminals being harbored here in the US?

Gonna be hard to keep friends abroad when we're shielding the equivalent of the 3rd Reicht here on US soil.

Wonder if Obama will be added the list because of the drone assassinations?

He should be. I agree. They are machiavellian. Imagine if Russia had drones flying over the US shooting randomly at citizens here they deemed were enemies of the Motherland?

First you would have to imagine that international terrorist were allowed to roam around America unhindered and that warrants for their arrest were totally ignored.

 

[Silhouette]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Are you saying the Cheney Administration being convicted war criminals is not news?

Nope, not really news, but played down by the media and not given enough coverage to make the mass's aware. Many just look at Malaysia and blow it off. Like they don't count, but while these war criminals may be able to travel to some very friendly countries like Canada, they dare not go to Muslim countries. Your former President, for the first time in history, can not travel freely in the world without the risk of being arrested as a war criminal.

Here's an article about that:

Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of “International Law”

When international law designed to stop war crimes is used by war criminals..

..A historic ruling handed down by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal found former-US President George W. Bush and his associates guilty of war crimes including torture. Using standards provided by the International Criminal Court (ICC) and based on the precedent set by the Nuremberg trials, the tribunal succeeded in observing existing international standards in reaching its verdict before forwarding the results to the ICC and the United Nations..

...However, for those involved, they are under no illusions that the ICC or the UN will take actions against the accused. As noted by Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the Centre for Research on Globalization, the very institutions charged with maintaining international rule of law, have been in fact instrumental in facilitating its violation by the hands of powerful Western nations. Professor Chossudovsky stated, “the fact that if war criminals are not prosecuted by the domestic and international legal system, that means that the legal apparatus, the judicial system is turned upside down and is serving the interests of the war criminals who actually call the shots.”..

...the tribunal held in Malaysia successfully exposed “international law” as dysfunctional and in fact, counter productive – enabling, not deterring gross acts of global injustice, wars of aggression, and the systematic abuse of human rights and freedom in nation after nation by an expanding international criminal cartel centered on Wall Street and London...

...The ICC and UN will predictably do nothing regarding this ruling. This should not even be expected. Instead, the tribunal should be understood in the context as not only a form of protest, but the boycotting of a corrupt system and the creation of a viable, more inclusive alternative. Legal proceedings are designed to examine evidence and convict guilty parties, then determining appropriate and practical punitive measures.

Those involved in the crimes described by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal are but a small proportion of a much larger international criminal cartel representing the largest corporate-financier powers on earth. While imprisonment may be the most ideal punishment to level against those convicted in Malaysia, it is not currently practical.

Instead, identifying the individuals, corporations, and institutions directly responsible and in fact harboring many of those convicted, and imposing “sanctions” on them, is not only practical, but will help erode the unwarranted base of power from which these global elite operate with absolute impunity. Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of ?International Law? | Global Research

Not sure if we could boycott the entire World Cartel. But it's nice to know that Cheney and co are clearly part of it.

We grumble and groan about how maintaining our influence and trade abroad is so expensive with military presences and all. And this never-ending jihad against the US is going to cost tens of $trillions into the unforeseeable future, in all it's little and large ways of manifesting day after endless day.

I wonder if we were to cooperate and hand over just a token couple of convicted war criminals to the Hague to stand a more formal exposed trial? If that wouldn't save our country tens of $trillions in the next 20-30 years or so and show our friends in the world that the US isn't really the rogue, terrorist nation gone-wild wrapped under a shroud of red, white and blue "freedom" and "liberty".

If we were to just hand over the kingpin convicted war criminal as a fall-guy, this World Cartel would see a net gain in profits over all. How loyal can they be to this guy anyway? How much are they willing to spend to keep him comfortable & unaccountable in his old age? He is probably poised to expose them if they use him as a fall guy. Oh the tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.

 

[Camp]

Are you saying the Cheney Administration being convicted war criminals is not news?

Nope, not really news, but played down by the media and not given enough coverage to make the mass's aware. Many just look at Malaysia and blow it off. Like they don't count, but while these war criminals may be able to travel to some very friendly countries like Canada, they dare not go to Muslim countries. Your former President, for the first time in history, can not travel freely in the world without the risk of being arrested as a war criminal.

Here's an article about that:

Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of “International Law”

When international law designed to stop war crimes is used by war criminals..

..A historic ruling handed down by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal found former-US President George W. Bush and his associates guilty of war crimes including torture. Using standards provided by the International Criminal Court (ICC) and based on the precedent set by the Nuremberg trials, the tribunal succeeded in observing existing international standards in reaching its verdict before forwarding the results to the ICC and the United Nations..

...However, for those involved, they are under no illusions that the ICC or the UN will take actions against the accused. As noted by Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the Centre for Research on Globalization, the very institutions charged with maintaining international rule of law, have been in fact instrumental in facilitating its violation by the hands of powerful Western nations. Professor Chossudovsky stated, “the fact that if war criminals are not prosecuted by the domestic and international legal system, that means that the legal apparatus, the judicial system is turned upside down and is serving the interests of the war criminals who actually call the shots.”..

...the tribunal held in Malaysia successfully exposed “international law” as dysfunctional and in fact, counter productive – enabling, not deterring gross acts of global injustice, wars of aggression, and the systematic abuse of human rights and freedom in nation after nation by an expanding international criminal cartel centered on Wall Street and London...

...The ICC and UN will predictably do nothing regarding this ruling. This should not even be expected. Instead, the tribunal should be understood in the context as not only a form of protest, but the boycotting of a corrupt system and the creation of a viable, more inclusive alternative. Legal proceedings are designed to examine evidence and convict guilty parties, then determining appropriate and practical punitive measures.

Those involved in the crimes described by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal are but a small proportion of a much larger international criminal cartel representing the largest corporate-financier powers on earth. While imprisonment may be the most ideal punishment to level against those convicted in Malaysia, it is not currently practical.

Instead, identifying the individuals, corporations, and institutions directly responsible and in fact harboring many of those convicted, and imposing “sanctions” on them, is not only practical, but will help erode the unwarranted base of power from which these global elite operate with absolute impunity. Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of ?International Law? | Global Research

Not sure if we could boycott the entire World Cartel. But it's nice to know that Cheney and co are clearly part of it.

We grumble and groan about how maintaining our influence and trade abroad is so expensive with military presences and all. And this never-ending jihad against the US is going to cost tens of $trillions into the unforeseeable future, in all it's little and large ways of manifesting day after endless day.

I wonder if we were to cooperate and hand over just a token couple of convicted war criminals to the Hague to stand a more formal exposed trial? If that wouldn't save our country tens of $trillions in the next 20-30 years or so and show our friends in the world that the US isn't really the rogue, terrorist nation gone-wild wrapped under a shroud of red, white and blue "freedom" and "liberty".

If we were to just hand over the kingpin convicted war criminal as a fall-guy, this World Cartel would see a net gain in profits over all. How loyal can they be to this guy anyway? How much are they willing to spend to keep him comfortable & unaccountable in his old age? He is probably poised to expose them if they use him as a fall guy. Oh the tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.

The point is that a Muslim nation has convicted an American President and members of his administration of war crimes. Not an Arab Muslim country or Persian Muslim country, but an Asian Muslim country. A major Pacific Rim player with huge influence in Asia. And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, America is harboring and giving aid and protection to internationally convicted war criminals.

 

[Pete7469]

Nope, not really news, but played down by the media and not given enough coverage to make the mass's aware. Many just look at Malaysia and blow it off. Like they don't count, but while these war criminals may be able to travel to some very friendly countries like Canada, they dare not go to Muslim countries. Your former President, for the first time in history, can not travel freely in the world without the risk of being arrested as a war criminal.

Here's an article about that:

Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of “International Law”

When international law designed to stop war crimes is used by war criminals..

..A historic ruling handed down by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal found former-US President George W. Bush and his associates guilty of war crimes including torture. Using standards provided by the International Criminal Court (ICC) and based on the precedent set by the Nuremberg trials, the tribunal succeeded in observing existing international standards in reaching its verdict before forwarding the results to the ICC and the United Nations..

...However, for those involved, they are under no illusions that the ICC or the UN will take actions against the accused. As noted by Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the Centre for Research on Globalization, the very institutions charged with maintaining international rule of law, have been in fact instrumental in facilitating its violation by the hands of powerful Western nations. Professor Chossudovsky stated, “the fact that if war criminals are not prosecuted by the domestic and international legal system, that means that the legal apparatus, the judicial system is turned upside down and is serving the interests of the war criminals who actually call the shots.”..

...the tribunal held in Malaysia successfully exposed “international law” as dysfunctional and in fact, counter productive – enabling, not deterring gross acts of global injustice, wars of aggression, and the systematic abuse of human rights and freedom in nation after nation by an expanding international criminal cartel centered on Wall Street and London...

...The ICC and UN will predictably do nothing regarding this ruling. This should not even be expected. Instead, the tribunal should be understood in the context as not only a form of protest, but the boycotting of a corrupt system and the creation of a viable, more inclusive alternative. Legal proceedings are designed to examine evidence and convict guilty parties, then determining appropriate and practical punitive measures.

Those involved in the crimes described by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal are but a small proportion of a much larger international criminal cartel representing the largest corporate-financier powers on earth. While imprisonment may be the most ideal punishment to level against those convicted in Malaysia, it is not currently practical.

Instead, identifying the individuals, corporations, and institutions directly responsible and in fact harboring many of those convicted, and imposing “sanctions” on them, is not only practical, but will help erode the unwarranted base of power from which these global elite operate with absolute impunity. Bush War Crime Conviction Exposes Failure of ?International Law? | Global Research

Not sure if we could boycott the entire World Cartel. But it's nice to know that Cheney and co are clearly part of it.

We grumble and groan about how maintaining our influence and trade abroad is so expensive with military presences and all. And this never-ending jihad against the US is going to cost tens of $trillions into the unforeseeable future, in all it's little and large ways of manifesting day after endless day.

I wonder if we were to cooperate and hand over just a token couple of convicted war criminals to the Hague to stand a more formal exposed trial? If that wouldn't save our country tens of $trillions in the next 20-30 years or so and show our friends in the world that the US isn't really the rogue, terrorist nation gone-wild wrapped under a shroud of red, white and blue "freedom" and "liberty".

If we were to just hand over the kingpin convicted war criminal as a fall-guy, this World Cartel would see a net gain in profits over all. How loyal can they be to this guy anyway? How much are they willing to spend to keep him comfortable & unaccountable in his old age? He is probably poised to expose them if they use him as a fall guy. Oh the tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.

The point is that a Muslim nation has convicted an American President and members of his administration of war crimes. Not an Arab Muslim country or Persian Muslim country, but an Asian Muslim country. A major Pacific Rim player with huge influence in Asia. And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, America is harboring and giving aid and protection to internationally convicted war criminals.

And as far as the real world is concerned, the muslim world is churning out criminally insane violent sociopathic zealots at rates they can no longer even control.

The saudi's created this monster, and now they've discovered they can't contain it.

Saudi Arabia Sends 30,000 Troops to Iraq Border: State-Owned TV - NBC News

But lets all keep pissing and moaning about the US administration that pummeled these flea bitten jihadist assholes for 8 years and ignore the administration that emboldened them. Lets fawn over countries that created radical muzbots because they've made some feckless attempt to "convict" someone libtards hate.

 

[Unkotare]

Why do you think they don't leave the US? They really can't, for life.

Why don't you think, or use facts? You really can't, for life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/11/world/africa/mandela-obama-bush-clinton.html?_r=0



George W. Bush's new mission: Helping those with the least in Africa - CNN.com

 

[Meathead]

The point is that a Muslim nation has convicted an American President and members of his administration of war crimes. Not an Arab Muslim country or Persian Muslim country, but an Asian Muslim country. A major Pacific Rim player with huge influence in Asia. And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, America is harboring and giving aid and protection to internationally convicted war criminals.

God Camp, you are even more vacuous than I'd originally thought. From here on you would have to "dumb"up.

You and I can sit at a cafe and argue whether former US President George Bush and former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair are guilty of war crimes. We can pass our verdict but we must be out of our minds to think that the verdict is as legitimate as that of a proper court of law. You and I can organize a mock hearing and have all resemblance of a court of law much like the Model United Nations to the actual United Nations, but it is madness to think the make-believe court has any authority. Its ruling is irrelevant and unexecutable.

The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal and its organizer the Perdana Global Peace Foundation think otherwise.

They set up a court and passed rulings, pretending such action carry any weight. They actually take their business very seriously. The tribunal has everything from real judges to professors and complete with the defense team, which only the heaven knows what locus standi the team has to represent the two former world leaders. What makes the whole show all the more surreal is the exposure local mainstream media and others grant to the theatric.


the __earthinc » Blog Archive » [2464] Who takes the KL War Crimes Tribunal seriously?

 

[whitehall]

The world is falling apart and the UN want's to indict the former US Vice President? Surely you jest.

 

[Unkotare]

The point is that a Muslim nation has convicted an American President and members of his administration of war crimes. Not an Arab Muslim country or Persian Muslim country, but an Asian Muslim country. A major Pacific Rim player with huge influence in Asia. And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, America is harboring and giving aid and protection to internationally convicted war criminals.

"a major player"

A small, poorly-run country making an empty gesture that means absolutely nothing. A "Muslim nation" that guarantees freedom of religion and where Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, Confucianism, Christianity, Sikhism, and indigenous religions, are all practiced widely and freely. Hardly considered a bastion of purity among Islamic nations.


This is - at most - an irrelevant and empty performance by a largely irrelevant little country, but it is enough that empty-headed hyper-partisans like you are cleaning off their keyboards all over America after reading about it.

 

[Meathead]

The point is that a Muslim nation has convicted an American President and members of his administration of war crimes. Not an Arab Muslim country or Persian Muslim country, but an Asian Muslim country. A major Pacific Rim player with huge influence in Asia. And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, America is harboring and giving aid and protection to internationally convicted war criminals.

God Camp, you are even more vacuous than I'd originally thought. From here on you would have to "dumb"up.

You and I can sit at a cafe and argue whether former US President George Bush and former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair are guilty of war crimes. We can pass our verdict but we must be out of our minds to think that the verdict is as legitimate as that of a proper court of law. You and I can organize a mock hearing and have all resemblance of a court of law much like the Model United Nations to the actual United Nations, but it is madness to think the make-believe court has any authority. Its ruling is irrelevant and unexecutable.

The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal and its organizer the Perdana Global Peace Foundation think otherwise.

They set up a court and passed rulings, pretending such action carry any weight. They actually take their business very seriously. The tribunal has everything from real judges to professors and complete with the defense team, which only the heaven knows what locus standi the team has to represent the two former world leaders. What makes the whole show all the more surreal is the exposure local mainstream media and others grant to the theatric.


the __earthinc » Blog Archive » [2464] Who takes the KL War Crimes Tribunal seriously?

FFS, there is nothing official or legitimate om any level, national or otherwise, about the court or its ruling. It is fodder for the dumbed down like the OP and Camp.

 

[whitehall]

The stated reason for the US involvement in the Iraq war was to enforce UN sanctions against the Saddam regime. Did they ever thank us? Does anybody recall an effort by the UN to bring the criminals to justice who tortured and killed Americans in the notorious North Vietnam Hanoi Hilton POW prison? Captured terrorists incarcerated at Gitmo gained about 30 pounds and never had it so good. Guys like John McCain lost about a hundred pounds in North Vietnamese custody. Why don't Americans smarten up and kick the UN a-holes out of their anti-American office in New York?

 

[Freewill]

Why do you think they don't leave the US? They really can't, for life.

Quick, someone call Bush before he attends Mandela's memorial in S.A. It is imperative he will be arrested on sight by the Malaysian police.