Did Pretti act lawfully?

[Seymour Flops]

Deserves the death penalty! Okay

Pretti was not in a dispute over any law like that when he was murdered

He was resisting arrest while armed with a concealed handgun that became exposed in the struggle.

I'll be happy to talk about the appropriateness or inappropriateness of the ice officer's actions all day long if you can first admit that Pretti violated the law by interfering with federal agents and resisting arrest.

If you say that he did not, then you are not living in reality and it would be pointless to discuss law enforcement procedures.

Might as well discuss whether law enforcement would really act like they did on Miami Mice.Because if you believe that Pretti was innocent, that is just as fictional.

 

[Dante]

He was resisting arrest while armed with a concealed handgun that became exposed in the struggle.

I'll be happy to talk about the appropriateness or inappropriateness of the ice officer's actions all day long if you can first admit that Pretti violated the law by interfering with federal agents and resisting arrest.

If you say that he did not, then you are not living in reality and it would be pointless to discuss law enforcement procedures.

Might as well discuss whether law enforcement would really act like they did on Miami Mice.Because if you believe that Pretti was innocent, that is just as fictional.

"He was resisting arrest while armed with a concealed handgun that became exposed in the struggle." You conveniently left out "and was successfully disarmed." Why?

The MAGA spin that somehow Pretti was interfering with federal agents and resisting arrest, will be laughed out of any courtroom. Even SENATOR RAND PAUL laughs at that one

To suggest that Alex Pretti was somehow guilty of a crime and that is why he was shot dead ... pathetic.

His innocence has galvanized many in America. MAGA is on the outside trying to barge in with nonsense that falls flat


WATCH THIS VIDEO

 

[Churchill]

Watch, and answer honestly

I don’t believe he did…

So what? another magat who loves to hate victims, there are only about 32 of you here out of 48,000, think about that you pointless little man.

 

[rightwinger]

I believe his interference of LEO especially given he was carrying a concealed weapon. Doesn’t mean BP was correct in their actions but Pretti wasn’t walking down the street minding his own business and jumped my border patrol.

He was not interfering
He helped a woman who was thrown to the ground

ICE was acting like thugs

 

[Couchpotato]

He was not interfering
He helped a woman who was thrown to the ground

I get that that’s your interpretation of events.

ICE was acting like thugs

Again not ICE.

 

[Dante]

Pathetic. That's what you are

We see Pretti walking in THE street recording a video...

THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE ADMIT WHAT YOU CAN'T AND WON'T:

Filming and yelling at ICE is not an assault or a crime




WATCH THE VIDEO

 

[berg80]

If he ain't there he can't get shot he was obstructing justice

Two things wrong with your remark. 1. It implies he shouldn't have been allowed to exercise his 1st A right to protest. 2. It asserts he was obstructing justice.........which is horseshit..........unless you consider helping a woman being attacked and acting defensively while he himself was being attacked an obstruction of justice.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

What law did Pretti break

he committed the ashley babbit [sp] crime, which of course is not a crime when committed by white privilege...and if I remember correctly [and the coverage was/is accurate] he also attacked/assaulted/vandalized the agents vehicle and as the white privilege class believes that is not a crime he then had his white privilege revoked.

 

[Dante]

He was not interfering
He helped a woman who was thrown to the ground

ICE was acting like thugs

I get that that’s your interpretation of events.

Again not ICE.

try this...

I dislike having to post the same video over again, but you people keep begging the question -- What world are you all living in?

It's a relevant thin because you people keep posting the same arguments over and over again, just mixing up words, but it's technically the same argument(s) you spit out as if they are different arguments. Same narrative



WATCH THE VIDEO

 

[mudwhistle]

No, he didn't. He was killed unlawfully though. I think that is now clear. The degree of culpability that the agents bear is now the only question.

Clear as mud.

 

[Seymour Flops]

"He was resisting arrest while armed with a concealed handgun that became exposed in the struggle." You conveniently left out "and was successfully disarmed." Why?

The MAGA spin that somehow Pretti was interfering with federal agents and resisting arrest, will be laughed out of any courtroom. Even SENATOR RAND PAUL laughs at that one

To suggest that Alex Pretti was somehow guilty of a crime and that is why he was shot dead ... pathetic.

His innocence has galvanized many in America. MAGA is on the outside trying to barge in with nonsense that falls flat


WATCH THIS VIDEO

"He was resisting arrest while armed with a concealed handgun that became exposed in the struggle." You conveniently left out "and was successfully disarmed." Why?

Because - as I have explained twice now - I'm not going to discuss law enforcement's response with someone who cannot admit that Pretti was interfering with law enforcement and resisting arrest, which is against the law.

Saying that Pretti was innocent is either deliberate dishonesty or a delusion, and it is pointless to try to have a legitimate discussion with either one.

 

[Dante]

Because - as I have explained twice now - I'm not going to discuss law enforcement's response with someone who cannot admit that Pretti was interfering with law enforcement and resisting arrest, which is against the law.

Saying that Pretti was innocent is either deliberate dishonesty or a delusion, and it is pointless to try to have a legitimate discussion with either one.

In the video played during the Senate hearing, we have nobody who will claim what you have. People incharge would not claim what you are trying to sell.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Two things wrong with your remark. 1. It implies he shouldn't have been allowed to exercise his 1st A right to protest. 2. It asserts he was obstructing justice.........which is horseshit..........unless you consider helping a woman being attacked and acting defensively while he himself was being attacked an obstruction of justice.

How was he helping the woman by walking up to an agent, placing himself in front of and within inches of the agent?

 

[mudwhistle]

try this...

I dislike having to post the same video over again, but you people keep begging the question -- What world are you all living in?

It's a relevant thin because you people keep posting the same arguments over and over again, just mixing up words, but it's technically the same argument(s) you spit out as if they are different arguments. Same narrative



WATCH THE VIDEO

Rand Paul intentionally lowered the volume to give a false impression of calm.

The noise level was so high during this encounter that I'm sure it caused everyone to act violently....much more violently than would have reacted if the scene had been quiet.

 

[berg80]

He was resisting arrest

When did that happen? When the 5 or 6 overzealous, untrained, masked, goons had him pinned down? When he was being pepper sprayed in the face and turned his head away?

Every time you folks try to make an argument justifying him being shot you are forced to assert things about his behavior we can see from watching the video are demonstrable lies.

 

[berg80]

Because - as I have explained twice now - I'm not going to discuss law enforcement's response with someone who cannot admit that Pretti was interfering with law enforcement and resisting arrest, which is against the law.

You know we can all watch the video, making a mockery of your assertions, right?

 

[jc456]

Watch, and answer honestly

I don’t believe he did…

sane people don't kick cars.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You know we can all watch the video, making a mockery of your assertions, right?

Did Pretti get up in the face of an ICE Officer?

Watch the video and answer honestly, if you are capable.

 

[Frankenstein]

Pathetic. That's what you are

I'm crushed you think so

 

[Frankenstein]

Two things wrong with your remark. 1. It implies he shouldn't have been allowed to exercise his 1st A right to protest. 2. It asserts he was obstructing justice.........which is horseshit..........unless you consider helping a woman being attacked and acting defensively while he himself was being attacked an obstruction of justice.

If he stays home, and let's federal officials do their job, he is still alive,. hell I blame people like you egging people on!