Zone1 Did Gd Save Trump from Assassin’s Bullet for Israel’s Sake?

[Lisa558]

This kind of gooey devotion to another human is known in theological circles as idolatry.

Nice attempt to insult the Jew, but appreciating someone’s personality that is needed to stand up against you leftists is hardly idolatry.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Nice attempt to insult the Jew, but appreciating someone’s personality that is needed to stand up against you leftists is hardly idolatry.

Trump is human excrement in a suit, he's fooled those who are easily deceived that's all that's going on here.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump has demonstrated a magnitude of strength and perseverance that is needed to halt and then reverse the evil that has infiltrated the Democrat Party. That poster who bemoaned that a would-be murderer missed his mark is an example of what our country is up against.

Few people have the strength that Trump has. Sometimes that comes out in an abrasive personality, but that’s minor in the scheme of things.

Wow, get over yourself.

Seems to me that you guys have built up Democrats are "evil" (Because they don't see the world the way you do) and then decided you needed a truly awful human being to combat them.

The thing is, Ronald Reagan wouldn't be welcome in the Party of Trump.

 

[Mr Natural]

That Trump turned his head a fraction of an inch during the millisecond the bullet was speeding toward his brain strikes me as an absolute miracle. When I saw that, I knew that Gd wanted Trump back in office rather than allow the Left to continue their destruction of all that made America great.

Question: To what degree did Gd save Trump because He was angry that America was wishy-washy (at best) in their support for the Holy Land, and that He wanted a strong advocate of Israel as president of America?

Maybe God was trying to get him and missed.

 

[Clyde 154]

That Trump turned his head a fraction of an inch during the millisecond the bullet was speeding toward his brain strikes me as an absolute miracle. When I saw that, I knew that Gd wanted Trump back in office rather than allow the Left to continue their destruction of all that made America great.

Question: To what degree did Gd save Trump because He was angry that America was wishy-washy (at best) in their support for the Holy Land, and that He wanted a strong advocate of Israel as president of America?

Simple answers to simple questions.......answered in the Word of God for anyone that wishes to find them. "Seek the Lord while He may be found, call upon Him when He is near. Let the wicked forsake his ways, and the righteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. 'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways..................." Meaning God's word does not go out in vain.....the word of God returns to Him to accomplish what the LORD DESIRES to accomplish. ( 1 Corn. 1:18-25)

Reality: All governments are appointed by God in order to carry out God's vengeance (Romans 12:9), God uses men to punish men for crimes against humanity. (Romans 13:1-4) God appoints all governments that could not exist without God's authority. God Himself established the practice of men using capital punishment in order to punish the wicked. (Genesis 9:5-6)

Why did God allow the Biden administration to come into existence? Only God knows..........but personally, I believe God wanted to demonstrate to man what happens when God's word is ignored.

What frightens me? Having a brain dead commander in chief attempting to start ww3 before he is forced out of office. Its more than past the time to address the 25th amendment.

 

[Lisa558]

Maybe God was trying to get him and missed.

Gd doesn’t miss.

 

[Meriweather]

Reality: All governments are appointed by God in order to carry out God's vengeance (Romans 12:9), God uses men to punish men for crimes against humanity. (Romans 13:1-4) God appoints all governments that could not exist without God's authority. God Himself established the practice of men using capital punishment in order to punish the wicked. (Genesis 9:5-6)

Why did God allow the Biden administration to come into existence? Only God knows..........but personally, I believe God wanted to demonstrate to man what happens when God's word is ignored.

I see it slightly different. What God appointed was for mankind to live in communities, and each community to function at its best must have people in authority. We start with family, where the parents have authority over their children. Teachers have authority over students, employers over employees. While God appointed positions/stations of authority, I believe He left it to us to either rise to a position of authority or for other people to place us in a position of authority. Some societies recognize the bloodlines of kings and other rulers; some societies elect people into these positions of authority.

It is my thought that rather than appoint, manipulate people into a position of authority, instead God--just as He is with all of us in whatever position we find ourselves--He is with people who happen to fall or stumble into positions of authority. Either God is welcomed into these positions a person finds him/herself, or God is ignored.

I do not believe God anointed either President Trump or President Trump into the position/authority of the Presidency. What we can observe and compare is which--if either--welcomes God presence when they wield the authority the nation (not God) has granted him. And the same goes for parents and teachers.

 

[Clyde 154]

I see it slightly different. What God appointed was for mankind to live in communities, and each community to function at its best must have people in authority. We start with family, where the parents have authority over their children. Teachers have authority over students, employers over employees. While God appointed positions/stations of authority, I believe He left it to us to either rise to a position of authority or for other people to place us in a position of authority. Some societies recognize the bloodlines of kings and other rulers; some societies elect people into these positions of authority.

It is my thought that rather than appoint, manipulate people into a position of authority, instead God--just as He is with all of us in whatever position we find ourselves--He is with people who happen to fall or stumble into positions of authority. Either God is welcomed into these positions a person finds him/herself, or God is ignored.

I do not believe God anointed either President Trump or President Trump into the position/authority of the Presidency. What we can observe and compare is which--if either--welcomes God presence when they wield the authority the nation (not God) has granted him. And the same goes for parents and teachers.

Then you refuse to accept the word of God as truth. All scripture is inspired (Breathed Out) of God and its all that is required for the righteous man of God to be complete (perfectly whole in the Koine Greek) -- 2 Tim. 3:16-17 The only way to truly know what God wants and desires is to believe that which He has delivered to us for understanding, The Word of God. The Word of God is clear, unambiguous, "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God......" Romans 13:1

Jesus explains it in simple terms when confronted with Pilates authority, Pilate declared to Jesus that His life was in the hands of Pilate himself.......who held the power/authority to condemn or pardon. Jesus answered Pilate, "You would have no authority over Me at all unless it had been given you from above (heaven..the abode of God).........." John 19:11

 

[Meriweather]

Then you refuse to accept the word of God as truth. All scripture is inspired (Breathed Out) of God and its all that is required for the righteous man of God to be complete (perfectly whole in the Koine Greek) -- 2 Tim. 3:16-17 The only way to truly know what God wants and desires is to believe that which He has delivered to us for understanding, The Word of God. The Word of God is clear, unambiguous, "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God......" Romans 13:1

Jesus explains it in simple terms when confronted with Pilates authority, Pilate declared to Jesus that His life was in the hands of Pilate himself.......who held the power/authority to condemn or pardon. Jesus answered Pilate, "You would have no authority over Me at all unless it had been given you from above (heaven..the abode of God).........." John 19:11

I understand all of that, but my point stands. God created the positions of authority, and Pilate held such a position. There is a difference between creating the position of authority and God putting some kind of puppet in that position of authority.

 

[Clyde 154]

I understand all of that, but my point stands. God created the positions of authority, and Pilate held such a position. There is a difference between creating the position of authority and God putting some kind of puppet in that position of authority.

No human being is a puppet..........free will has existed since the beginning. But God can and does have the authority to manipulate His creation as explained in detail. The perfect example of God using a nation to achieve His will.

"Remember the former things of old (the past): for I AM GOD, and there is none else (no other God). I AM GOD and there is none like Me. Declaring the end from the beginning (the future from the past). (God declares He has always controlled both the past and future through His will), from ancient times (history) the things that are not yet done (future), SAYING MY COUNSEL SHALL STAND (His will always prevails) and I will do My pleasure (I will do what I plan).

God explains how He can manipulate His creations. "Calling a ravenous bird from the east (explaining this bird is symbolic....He explains just what this bird is) THE MAN THAT EXECUTES MY COUNSEL FROM A FAR COUNTRY. Yea, I have spoken it (declared His will), I WILL ALSO BRING IT TO PASS. I have purposed it (planned it), I will also do it." -- Isaiah 46:9-11.

God explains how He makes His will come to pass. He plans something for the future.........and at a point in time He has willed, He uses men to carry out His plans in the present.

Who is to stop Him? He is God, He will accomplish what He has planned. Its His creation, He is the God of everything physical. Time is but an illusion.......not even the God of Creation can know what will happen in the future because it has not yet played out.......but He can plan for future events in the present and at a time of His choosing........He will carry out His plan when the future becomes the present.

God creates and allows free will to reign....but this does not stop God from declaring His will at His pleasure.

 

[Natural Citizen]

That Trump turned his head a fraction of an inch during the millisecond the bullet was speeding toward his brain strikes me as an absolute miracle.

I'm just gonna say this fron the perspective of the mighty hunter out in the sticks.

An experienced hunter would have been observant and would have known when to take the shot.

It really is that simple...

 

[gipper]

That Trump turned his head a fraction of an inch during the millisecond the bullet was speeding toward his brain strikes me as an absolute miracle. When I saw that, I knew that Gd wanted Trump back in office rather than allow the Left to continue their destruction of all that made America great.

Question: To what degree did Gd save Trump because He was angry that America was wishy-washy (at best) in their support for the Holy Land, and that He wanted a strong advocate of Israel as president of America?

God is not on your side, unless your god is Satan.

 

[Meriweather]

God explains how He makes His will come to pass. He plans something for the future.........and at a point in time He has willed, He uses men to carry out His plans in the present.

I understand. It's also true that no man can stop God's plan. In other words, neither Judas nor Pontius Pilate were needed to carry out God's plan--the better truth is neither could stop God's plan. God works with us; he does not manipulate us.

 

[Clyde 154]

I understand. It's also true that no man can stop God's plan. In other words, neither Judas nor Pontius Pilate were needed to carry out God's plan--the better truth is neither could stop God's plan. God works with us; he does not manipulate us.

God manipulated a Persian Empire (the Medo-Persian) to do His will. (Isaiah 13:17,41:2)

"Behold I will stir up the Medes against them, who will not value silver or take pleasure in gold." -- Isa. 13:17 God uses men to execute His will at His pleasure...not man's. Stir Up: Provoke. Are you declaring that the Persian Empire of the 6th century was willingly working with God? God stirred them up.......He did not work with them, He manipulated them through their greed for wealth and power. History declares there was a revolt around 550 BC.

As far as Judas not being required........Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him. Jesus knew that it was Judas who was the devil among them (John 6:70, Matthew 26:24-25). God used Judas to execute His plan which had existed before time itself began....or the world's were formed. Judas was a greedy individual, he was in charge of the treasury........not because he was being useful to Jesus, because he could steal from the treasury. (John 13)

We are told in the written word of God that He had established a plan for man's salvation through Jesus Christ even before the foundation of the world (1 Peter 1:20).........or before time began as Paul explains (2 Tim. 1:9)

 

[Meriweather]

God manipulated a Persian Empire (the Medo-Persian) to do His will. (Isaiah 13:17,41:2)

"Behold I will stir up the Medes against them, who will not value silver or take pleasure in gold." -- Isa. 13:17 God uses men to execute His will at His pleasure...not man's. Stir Up: Provoke. Are you declaring that the Persian Empire of the 6th century was willingly working with God? God stirred them up.......He did not work with them, He manipulated them through their greed for wealth and power. History declares there was a revolt around 550 BC.

As far as Judas not being required........Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him. Jesus knew that it was Judas who was the devil among them (John 6:70, Matthew 26:24-25). God used Judas to execute His plan which had existed before time itself began....or the world's were formed. Judas was a greedy individual, he was in charge of the treasury........not because he was being useful to Jesus, because he could steal from the treasury. (John 13)

We are told in the written word of God that He had established a plan for man's salvation through Jesus Christ even before the foundation of the world (1 Peter 1:20).........or before time began as Paul explains (2 Tim. 1:9)

Again, I see it differently because God granted--and greatly honors--free will. He is not manipulating us.

 

[Lisa558]

Again, I see it differently because God granted--and greatly honors--free will. He is not manipulating us.

He can guide us, but we choose.

 

[Meriweather]

He can guide us, but we choose.

Absolutely! He can also be very persuasive when He calls.

 

[Care4all]

Thank you! What a wonderful response.

And I do agree that Gd calls upon people to serve Him, through whose choices and actions His desires are fulfilled. Gd wants Israel to survive, and America to reverse its destructive course, both of which would have been in doubt had the Democrats continue down their path. Thus, I do believe He worked a miracle to save Trump - for both America’s side, and for Israel’s.

And what a wonderful quote from Lincoln, our first Reoublican, which I had not heard before: it is not a question as to whether Gd is one’s side, but that one is on G-d’s side. I do think Trump has a new awareness and appreciation for Gd, and I hope he will continue to be on His side as he works, with his team and the mandate Americans have given him, to make our country great again and reverse the harm caused by “wokism.”

Speaking in the God realm....from what I have read in the Bible
The return of Christ is who saves Israel from the antichrist (and the antichrist movement), who deceitfully comes in the Jew's favor, with a peace agreement with many, but betrays the Jews in the end....is what the Bible teaches? Christ will return and save the Jews from total annihilation

Please be careful in who you Trust to be your savior from this mess! Imho.

 

[Lisa558]

Speaking in the God realm....from what I have read in the Bible
The return of Christ is who saves Israel from the antichrist (and the antichrist movement), who deceitfully comes in the Jew's favor, with a peace agreement with many, but betrays the Jews in the end....is what the Bible teaches? Christ will return and save the Jews from total annihilation

Please be careful in who you Trust to be your savior from this mess! Imho.

Yeah, but I’m Jewish and don’t believe any of that.

 

[Care4all]

Yeah, but I’m Jewish and don’t believe any of that.

Then read Daniel :7 - 11 chapters.....you get betrayed...

Daniel 9:27

New International Version

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27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[a] In the middle of the ‘seven’[b] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[c] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[d]”[e


The Abraham Accords?