Did anti-Trump FBI cost him the win by election interference?

[berg80]

Deflection. One out of six Biden voters would NOT have voted for him if they knew the story.

You have not come close to proving that.

 

[Lisa558]

This is Trump's go to excuse. He's been saying that the system is rigged against him for 40 years.

You, like all the leftists on this thread, are ignoring that one out of six votes that went for Biden would NOT have If the FBI didn’t collide with Zuckerberg to hide the story.

It’s not just Trump saying it. The people who were manipulated into voting for Biden are saying it.

 

[JGalt]

This is Trump's go to excuse. He's been saying that the system is rigged against him for 40 years.

Please feel free to provide a quote of Trump saying that, before the 2020 election.

 

[Roudy]

Nah, for the first time in our history, millions of mail in ballots is why Trump lost. Mail in ballots are outlawed in many Western nations like France, because they are the most fraud ridden method. It’s how dictators and fascists stay in power. There was no way our voting system could reliably check the millions of ballots, especially coming from areas handled and counted by Democrats, that had a history of committing voter fraud every election.

In a way this is also Trump’s fault because he saw this coming a mile away and didn’t do enough. He probably assumed, like in 2016, that there would be enough votes to overcome whatever fraud the Democrats were going to commit, but completely underestimated what they were going to do.

 

[JGalt]

Trump is so pathetic. He's always blaming someone for his failures.

Which of these failures did Trump cause?

Gasoline that rose to twice the price it was during 2018, an inflation rate that rose to 9.1%, which was almost 5 times higher than it was in 2019, a recession, the average middle-class family coming up about $6,000 short of disposable income, hefty taxes coming for the middle class, and retirement accounts losing $3 trillion dollars just over the last year. The price of oil jumping up to $130 per barrel, having to beg Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil while draining our own strategic reserves, sporadic shortages on the store shelves, supply line disruptions, a steadily-increasing trade imbalance with China, an spiraling epidemic of violent crime and drugs, 4 million more illegals within the last two years, more COVID deaths than in 2020, a dishonorable withdrawal from Afghanistan that cost 13 American soldiers their lives, a weakened, pussified military, and IRS arming and training to be home invaders, using the DOJ and the FBI to harass political opponents, Iran's nuclear program having enough nuclear material to build a bomb and conducting attacks on US citizens like they did to Salman Rushdie, a revitalized Russian oil industry, China being energy and militarily dominant, a war in Europe that could even go nuclear, and China and North Korea threatening the US.

 

[Lisa558]

Putting aside that the only debate about "cheating" is among Trump acolytes who refuse to accept the reality of his defeat...........your premise appears to be based on the poll you cited (from a disreputable firm) fatuously claiming the outcome of the election would have been altered if the Hunter Biden laptop story had been covered more thoroughly.

However, note the slight of hand in reference to the people who were polled.

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election

Among Republicans, 57% were strongly convinced Trump would have won, compared to 48% of independents and just 44% of Democrats.

nypost.com

So you’re saying that it’s only people who follow the news and are knowledgeable about politics who realize that the FBI changed the outcome of the election? That would have been in the first poll question so as to get answers from people who know something!

Get back to me when you have a poll indicating the outcome of the election would have been affected that was taken among the general voting public, or Biden voters. Because people who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal were already predisposed to support the Orange Insurrectionist.

Complete deflection.

Polls show that at least 10% of people, and as many as one out of six, who voted for Biden would not have had the FBI not suppressed the story. There’s the election right there.

Get back to ME when you have something that defends the FBI’s interference with the election, and that the 10% more votes they threw to Biden didn’t make a difference.

 

[rightwinger]

Nope….that’s another lie, but don’t deflect. The topic is how a government agency, funded by taxpayers, both Democrats and Republicans, decided they wanted the Democrat to win and worked with the media to suppress damaging information about it.

Trump was unpopular
He never won the popular vote in two elections and never had above 50 percent approval

Rather than try to expand his base, he doubled down pandering to his MAGA base

Cost him Bigly

 

[Roudy]

Trump is so pathetic. He's always blaming someone for his failures.

You must mean like Democrats creating the fake collusion delusion as to why Trump won, that went in for four years

 

[Lisa558]

Trump is so pathetic. He's always blaming someone for his failures.

He’s right, according to the polls: As many as 15% of people who voted for Biden wouldn’t have had they know the truth. The FBI knew that would be the case, which is why they hid the truth.

As a result, Biden was unfairly installed, and the country is suffering for it.

 

[candycorn]

No

Did anti-Trump FBI cost him the win by election interference?

 

[JGalt]

Trump was unpopular
He never won the popular vote in two elections and never had above 50 percent approval

Rather than try to expand his base, he doubled down pandering to his MAGA base

Cost him Bigly

And Biden is popular? So this is what people want?

Gasoline that rose to twice the price it was during 2018, an inflation rate that rose to 9.1%, which was almost 5 times higher than it was in 2019, a recession, the average middle-class family coming up about $6,000 short of disposable income, hefty taxes coming for the middle class, and retirement accounts losing $3 trillion dollars just over the last year. The price of oil jumping up to $130 per barrel, having to beg Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil while draining our own strategic reserves, sporadic shortages on the store shelves, supply line disruptions, a steadily-increasing trade imbalance with China, an spiraling epidemic of violent crime and drugs, 4 million more illegals within the last two years, more COVID deaths than in 2020, a dishonorable withdrawal from Afghanistan that cost 13 American soldiers their lives, a weakened, pussified military, and IRS arming and training to be home invaders, using the DOJ and the FBI to harass political opponents, Iran's nuclear program having enough nuclear material to build a bomb and conducting attacks on US citizens like they did to Salman Rushdie, a revitalized Russian oil industry, China being energy and militarily dominant, a war in Europe that could even go nuclear, and China and North Korea threatening the US.

 

[Roudy]

You, like all the leftists on this thread, are ignoring that one out of six votes that went for Biden would NOT have If the FBI didn’t collide with Zuckerberg to hide the story.

It’s not just Trump saying it. The people who were manipulated into voting for Biden are saying it.

Even most Democrats who voted for Biden foolishly, are now regretting it.

 

[berg80]

What appears to be happening here is after the total collapse of the voter fraud narrative, right wing media needed to find another baseless fraud to foment among the minions in order to keep stringing them along. It is unacceptable after flogging the notion Trump actually won the election to admit that he didn't. So here comes the Hunter laptop fantasy. Providing The Following with another lunatic rationale to cling to so they can hold on to their perceived aggrievement.

 

[22lcidw]

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

In 2016, voters asked …..How bad can he be? What do I have to lose?


In 2020, we found out

Trump is not inept. He had to go through a maze of swamp creatures even forced on his administration to bring any advances with limits. He saw it and experienced it and perhaps expected it. I owe Biden and Dr. Jill the let them eat cake slut....Nothiiinnnng! Unity! Spoiled men and women from the cities as I am from, believing they are superior from those in rural areas who have their own arrogance. But the urbanites are the power. And have gone to far and do not realize it or care.

 

[Lisa558]

Trump was unpopular
He never won the popular vote in two elections and never had above 50 percent approval

Rather than try to expand his base, he doubled down pandering to his MAGA base

Cost him Bigly

More deflection: The FBI threw the election to Biden by hiding the truth From voters. period.

And how was he unpopular? He got 75 million votes, which would have been closer to 85 million had the FBI not interfered. And that is WITHOUT the Zuckerberg army harvesting votes.

The real vote, without unethical actions, would have been 85 million for Trump and 60 million for the senile guy.

 

[Lisa558]

What appears to be happening here is after the total collapse of the voter fraud narrative, right wing media needed to find another baseless fraud to foment among the minions in order to keep stringing them along. It is unacceptable after flogging the notion Trump actually won the election to admit that he didn't. So here comes the Hunter laptop fantasy. Providing The Following with another lunatic rationale to cling to so they can hold on to their perceived aggrievement.

How is it fantasy? (And you’re the one claiming conservatives are in denial.)

1. Zuckerberg admitted that the FBI warned him to suppress the Biden corruption story. That means he hid the story from 80 million people.

2. Polls show that as many as one out of six people who voted for Biden, unaware of the story, would NOT have voted for him if they had known about it.

And you have no way to defend against that, so you just discount it all as “a conservative fantasy.”

You won’t win this one. I’m a lot older and smarter than you.

 

[Lisa558]

You have not come close to proving that.

There have been polls that show that.

 

[Roudy]

Democrats: the guy who sat in his basement and hardly campaigned or did press conferences, to hide his weak and failing mental state, somehow got the most votes in the history of this country. And now, a majority of those very same people, only two years later into Biden’s presidency, disapprove of how he’s doing as president.

Talk about selling a bullshit narrative.

 

[JoeMoma]

The FBI has run a smear campaign against Trump since he was elected in 2016. There was the Steel Dossier which they knew wasn't true about Trump and the peeing hookers. Then there was Russian Collusion. Spy-gate. Etc.

The Feds go after anything Trump like a bunch of hounds after a coon, yet they turn a blind eye when it comes to high level democrats like the Clintons and the Bidens and the Obamas.

They recently lied about the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinformation. It isn't a stretch to now believe the the current investigations from the FBI into Trump are political. They don't want Trump reelected as president because (1) they hate Trump and (2) Trump will clean house, learning from his past mistakes.

 

[Lesh]

What does that have to do with the topic: the FBI warned Zuckerberg to suppress the story about the Biden Family corruption and in doing so, cost Trump the election.

The FBI has the laptop. They know that Roody had the laptop.

They know that Roody was going around Europe trying to get shit on Biden and voila…. Some of that stuff ended up on that laptop.

So if the FBI says there was Russian garbage on it.. they probably know.

Sorry that Putin couldn’t help you out in 2020 like he did in 2016.

Sucks to be you . Stop whining