Did anti-Trump FBI cost him the win by election interference?

[Lisa558]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election - with unprecedented midnight halts across half-a-dozen swing states, questionable means of “curing” ballots to Biden’s advantage, a large, paid “army” of liberal activists (by Zuckerberg) to harvest ballots from ignorant or gullible voters, etc. - but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Of course, and it’s shameful. The FBI, having failed with its Russian conspiracy to oust a duly elected president, decided it would make sure he was not re-elected. Polls show that anywhere from 10% (the low end) to one out of six (the high end) would not have voted for Biden had they known about the story. That’s a total swing of at least 8 million votes, and with less than 50,000 in swing states deciding the election, it’s apparent that the FBI conspired with the media to hide the truth from American voters, and effectively disenfranchise 74 million Americans.

FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Meta's CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on The Joe Rogan Experience that Facebook censored information about Hunter Biden's laptop after an FBI tip about Russian disinfo.

www.foxnews.com

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[rightwinger]

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

In 2016, voters asked …..How bad can he be? What do I have to lose?


In 2020, we found out

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election - with unprecedented midnight halts across half-a-dozen swing states, questionable means of “curing” ballots to Biden’s advantage, a large, paid “army” of liberal activists (by Zuckerberg) to harvest ballots from ignorant or gullible voters, etc. - but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Of course, and it’s shameful. The FBI, having failed with its Russian conspiracy to oust a duly elected president, decided it would make sure he was not re-elected. Polls show that anywhere from 10% (the low end) to one out of six (the high end) would not have voted for Biden had they known about the story. That’s a total swing of at least 8 million votes, and with less than 50,000 in swing states deciding the election, it’s apparent that the FBI conspired with the media to hide the truth from American voters, and effectively disenfranchise 74 million Americans.

FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Meta's CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on The Joe Rogan Experience that Facebook censored information about Hunter Biden's laptop after an FBI tip about Russian disinfo.

www.foxnews.com

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election

www.theepochtimes.com

Absolutely. They tried to fraud 2016 also

The investigations will be great

The election was rigged in 20

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

In 2016, voters asked …..How bad can he be? What do I have to lose?


In 2020, we found out

The FBI rigged it you GDF fool

 

[rightwinger]

The FBI rigged it you GDF fool

No, No, NO!

It was the DEEP STATE!

 

[Lisa558]

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

In 2016, voters asked …..How bad can he be? What do I have to lose?


In 2020, we found out

Nope….that’s another lie, but don’t deflect. The topic is how a government agency, funded by taxpayers, both Democrats and Republicans, decided they wanted the Democrat to win and worked with the media to suppress damaging information about it.

 

[Moonglow]

Have yous guys ran outta Trump lost butthurt cream yet?

 

[surada]

Absolutely. They tried to fraud 2016 also

The investigations will be great

The election was rigged in 20

Trump claimed that if Hillary won the election was fixed. He also claimed that 3 to 5 million illegals voted in 2016.

 

[Lisa558]

Trump claimed that if Hillary won the election was fixed. He also claimed that 3 to 5 million illegals voted in 2016.

What does that have to do with the topic: the FBI warned Zuckerberg to suppress the story about the Biden Family corruption and in doing so, cost Trump the election.

 

[Lisa558]

The thread is only 10 minutes old, and already the leftists are jumping onboard to deflect from the topic.

 

[Kondor3]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election - with unprecedented midnight halts across half-a-dozen swing states, questionable means of “curing” ballots to Biden’s advantage, a large, paid “army” of liberal activists (by Zuckerberg) to harvest ballots from ignorant or gullible voters, etc. - but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Of course, and it’s shameful. The FBI, having failed with its Russian conspiracy to oust a duly elected president, decided it would make sure he was not re-elected. Polls show that anywhere from 10% (the low end) to one out of six (the high end) would not have voted for Biden had they known about the story. That’s a total swing of at least 8 million votes, and with less than 50,000 in swing states deciding the election, it’s apparent that the FBI conspired with the media to hide the truth from American voters, and effectively disenfranchise 74 million Americans.

FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Meta's CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on The Joe Rogan Experience that Facebook censored information about Hunter Biden's laptop after an FBI tip about Russian disinfo.

www.foxnews.com

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election

www.theepochtimes.com

No. FBI interference did not cost Rump the 2020 election. If was the Martians. Goddamned aliens!

 

[JGalt]

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

In 2016, voters asked …..How bad can he be? What do I have to lose?


In 2020, we found out

Absolutely not. In 2020, you fucked around.

In 2024, you're going to find out.

 

[Lisa558]

No. FBI interference did not cost Rump the 2020 election. If was the Martians. Goddamned aliens!

^^^ When you can’t rebut the obvious truth that the election would have gone the other way if the taxpayer-funded FBI didn’t work to keep 75 million voters disenfranchised, make childish remarks.

 

[Roudy]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election - with unprecedented midnight halts across half-a-dozen swing states, questionable means of “curing” ballots to Biden’s advantage, a large, paid “army” of liberal activists (by Zuckerberg) to harvest ballots from ignorant or gullible voters, etc. - but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Of course, and it’s shameful. The FBI, having failed with its Russian conspiracy to oust a duly elected president, decided it would make sure he was not re-elected. Polls show that anywhere from 10% (the low end) to one out of six (the high end) would not have voted for Biden had they known about the story. That’s a total swing of at least 8 million votes, and with less than 50,000 in swing states deciding the election, it’s apparent that the FBI conspired with the media to hide the truth from American voters, and effectively disenfranchise 74 million Americans.

FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Meta's CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on The Joe Rogan Experience that Facebook censored information about Hunter Biden's laptop after an FBI tip about Russian disinfo.

www.foxnews.com

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election

www.theepochtimes.com

Yes of course. One out of six voters and most independents would not have voted for Biden if the truth would have been said about the laptop by the FBI. Forget about the media, there is no hope for them. .

 

[Chillicothe]

but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Trumps inept leadership during COVID and poor behavior as President cost him the election

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This is well-plowed ground.
Gone over multiple times on this venue and plenty of others.
To my ear and sensibilities the most authoritative voice on why Don Trump was fired from his POTUS project comes from Don Trump's own hired and long employed pollster, Tony Fabrizio.
Trump specifically hired Fabrizio...as he had done throughout his two campaigns.....hired him to determine which way the wind was blowing in terms of public sentiment. And so he did so...in November of 2020. Hired Fabrizio to determine why the vote came out the way it did....with Trump on the losing end.

Fabrizio discovered....after interviewing actual voters per his long vetted polling protocols......Fabrizio discovered that there were two main reason people rejected Trump.

1. One, he was untrustworthy.
2. Two, they felt he was incompetent vis-a-vis Covid.

That's it.
In a nutshell.

America did not need the FBI to meddle, or Zuckerberg, or Russia's GRU, space lasers or Cesar Chavez.....to make their determination.
This came from Don Trump's OWN GUY! ....not from some 'dossier', or from Never Trumpers, or from the Democratic Campaign Committee, or Rachel Maddow. This was from the bought and paid for -- Tony Fabrizio.

Here, read it again:

"Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat​

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance."

Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance.

www.politico.com

 

[berg80]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election

Putting aside that the only debate about "cheating" is among Trump acolytes who refuse to accept the reality of his defeat...........your premise appears to be based on the poll you cited (from a disreputable firm) fatuously claiming the outcome of the election would have been altered if the Hunter Biden laptop story had been covered more thoroughly.

However, note the slight of hand in reference to the people who were polled.

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election

Among Republicans, 57% were strongly convinced Trump would have won, compared to 48% of independents and just 44% of Democrats.

nypost.com

Get back to me when you have a poll indicating the outcome of the election would have been affected that was taken among the general voting public, or Biden voters. Because people who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal were already predisposed to support the Orange Insurrectionist.

 

[surada]

What does that have to do with the topic: the FBI warned Zuckerberg to suppress the story about the Biden Family corruption and in doing so, cost Trump the election.

This is Trump's go to excuse. He's been saying that the system is rigged against him for 40 years.

 

[Lisa558]

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This is well-plowed ground.
Gone over multiple times on this venue and plenty of others.
To my ear and sensibilities the most authoritative voice on why Don Trump was fired from his POTUS project comes from Don Trump's own hired and long employed pollster, Tony Fabrizio.
Trump specifically hired Fabrizio...as he done throughout his two campaigns.....hired him to determine which way the wind was blowing in terms of public sentiment. And so he did so...in November of 2020. Hired Fabrizio to determine why the vote came out the way it did....with Trump on the losing end.

Fabrizio discovered....after interviewing actual voters per his long vetted polling protocols......Fabrizio discovered that there were two main reason people rejected Trump.

1. One, he was untrustworthy.
2. Two, they felt he was incompetent vis-a-vis Covid.

That's it.
In a nutshell.

America did not need the FBI to meddle, or Zuckerberg, or Russia's GRU, space lasers or Cesar Chavez.....to make their determination.
This came from Don Trump's OWN GUY! ....not from some 'dossier', or from Never Trumpers, or from the Democratic Campaign Committee, or Rachel Maddow. This was from the bought and paid for -- Tony Fabrizio.

Here, read it again:

"Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat​

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance."

Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance.

www.politico.com

Deflection. One out of six Biden voters would NOT have voted for him if they knew the story.

 

[surada]

There’s continuing debate about the extent of “cheating” in the 2020 election - with unprecedented midnight halts across half-a-dozen swing states, questionable means of “curing” ballots to Biden’s advantage, a large, paid “army” of liberal activists (by Zuckerberg) to harvest ballots from ignorant or gullible voters, etc. - but was the FBI’s actions in coordinating with Zuckerberg to suppress the Hunter laptop story sufficient alone to cost Trump the win?

Of course, and it’s shameful. The FBI, having failed with its Russian conspiracy to oust a duly elected president, decided it would make sure he was not re-elected. Polls show that anywhere from 10% (the low end) to one out of six (the high end) would not have voted for Biden had they known about the story. That’s a total swing of at least 8 million votes, and with less than 50,000 in swing states deciding the election, it’s apparent that the FBI conspired with the media to hide the truth from American voters, and effectively disenfranchise 74 million Americans.

FBI blasted after Zuckerberg revealed their warning ahead of the Hunter Biden laptop story: ‘Collusion'

Meta's CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on The Joe Rogan Experience that Facebook censored information about Hunter Biden's laptop after an FBI tip about Russian disinfo.

www.foxnews.com

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election

www.theepochtimes.com

Trump is so pathetic. He's always blaming someone for his failures.

 

[berg80]

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This is well-plowed ground.
Gone over multiple times on this venue and plenty of others.
To my ear and sensibilities the most authoritative voice on why Don Trump was fired from his POTUS project comes from Don Trump's own hired and long employed pollster, Tony Fabrizio.
Trump specifically hired Fabrizio...as he done throughout his two campaigns.....hired him to determine which way the wind was blowing in terms of public sentiment. And so he did so...in November of 2020. Hired Fabrizio to determine why the vote came out the way it did....with Trump on the losing end.

Fabrizio discovered....after interviewing actual voters per their long vetted polling protocols......Fabrizio discovered that there were two main reason people rejected Trump.

1. One, he was untrustworthy.
2. Two, they felt he was incompetent vis-a-vis Covid.

That's it.
In a nutshell.

America did not need the FBI to meddle, or Zuckerberg, or Russia's GRU, space lasers or Cesar Chavez.....to make their determination.
This came from Don Trump's OWN GUY! ....not from some 'dossier', or from Never Trumpers, or from the Democratic Campaign Committee, or Rachel Maddow. This was from the bought and paid for -- Tony Fabrizio.

Here, read it again:

"Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat​

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance."

Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat

The 27-page report pins Trump's loss on voter perception that he was untrustworthy and disapproval of his pandemic performance.

www.politico.com

That is much too harsh a reality for Trumpleton's to accept. It creates severe cognitive dissonance since their perception of Trump, and his own self perception, is that he was the greatest prez ever. With many bigly accomplishments when in truth his tenure was littered with corruption, failure, and incompetence.