Zone1 Did Adam Have Nipples?

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I have always wondered why adam and eve were always drawn with belly buttons.

That's only a problem if you read that account literally.

 

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Strictly religious. Science doesnt say humans are formed from dirt and bones of other people.

Science says we are formed from star DUST as is everything else.

 

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I know that this might seem like a strange question but think about it. All humans are inherently female at conception until later on in the pregnancy where that may or may not change. Which is why I do believe that men have nipples in the first place. Adam and Eve were never babies and they were never conceived or born they were created. It's for this reason that I know that they didn't have bellybuttons, but did that also mean that Adam didn't have nipples?


Lol this is probably more of a science question than a religious question, but I thought that people wouldn't like it if I posted this question in science.

No, all humans are not inherently female at conception. Sex is determined genetically at fertilization (XX for female, XY for male). However, for the first 6–7 weeks, embryos are undifferentiated and sexually indistinguishable, possessing the potential to develop into either sex, which leads to the common, though technically inaccurate, simplification that all embryos start as female.

 

[Hafar1014]

I know that this might seem like a strange question but think about it. All humans are inherently female at conception until later on in the pregnancy where that may or may not change. Which is why I do believe that men have nipples in the first place. Adam and Eve were never babies and they were never conceived or born they were created. It's for this reason that I know that they didn't have bellybuttons, but did that also mean that Adam didn't have nipples?


Lol this is probably more of a science question than a religious question, but I thought that people wouldn't like it if I posted this question in science.

Men are not females in the womb. We do have X and Y chromosomes. Adam never existed he is a metaphor in an allegory. We evolved form a common ancestor.

 

[Hafar1014]

Science says we are formed from star DUST as is everything else.

Science does not say that. The theory is we evolved form organic materials not dust.

 

[Hafar1014]

No, all humans are not inherently female at conception. Sex is determined genetically at fertilization (XX for female, XY for male). However, for the first 6–7 weeks, embryos are undifferentiated and sexually indistinguishable, possessing the potential to develop into either sex, which leads to the common, though technically inaccurate, simplification that all embryos start as female.

We cannot develop i to either sex. What happens is there are anomalies like Klinefelter's(males) and Turners(females) Syndromes. Where secondary sexual characteristics are abnormal but does not change gender.

 

[Hafar1014]

Elephants and Rhinos can’t breed

If man was made in Gods image, God would have reproductive organs

ITs a metaphor it says image and likeness and means potentially divine. We call that evolution

 

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Science does not say that. The theory is we evolved form organic materials not dust.

The universe began as a cosmic soup of subatomic particles and radiation and as it cooled formed the elements of hydrogen and helium. Every element beyond hydrogen and helium formed from the life and death cycle of stars. So, yes, science does say that everything beyond hydrogen and helium was formed from stardust.

 

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We cannot develop i to either sex. What happens is there are anomalies like Klinefelter's(males) and Turners(females) Syndromes. Where secondary sexual characteristics are abnormal but does not change gender.

The science says "for the first 6–7 weeks, embryos are undifferentiated and sexually indistinguishable, possessing the potential to develop into either sex."

 

[Seymour Flops]

Science does not say that. The theory is we evolved form organic materials not dust.

He got that idea from Carl Sagan, the Mr. Science for the peter pan generation.

He would say "we are all made from shtar shtuff."

 

[Hafar1014]

He got that idea from Carl Sagan, the Mr. Science for the peter pan generation.

He would say "we are all made from shtar shtuff."

He may have a point since comets and meteors do have organic materials that crash into the earth. We also share DNA with animals as low as a starfish. Some how there was an intervention that gave us intelligence

 

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ITs a metaphor it says image and likeness and means potentially divine.

Potentially divine? We are God's creatures. We are not divine, potential or otherwise. We are beings that know and create but we are still animals while in the flesh.

We call that evolution

Evolution is anything which moves from a less complex state to a more complex state.

 

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He got that idea from Carl Sagan, the Mr. Science for the peter pan generation.

He would say "we are all made from shtar shtuff."

Incorrect. I got that through the study of the evolution of space and time.

There have been 5 stages of evolution of space and time; cosmic evolution, stellar evolution, chemical evolution, biological evolution and evolution of consciousness.

In his book, "The Phenomenon of Man" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin describes evolution as a process that leads to increasing complexity, culminating in a Christ consciousness. He limited his observations to biological evolution but the same observation can be made about all stages of the evolution of space and time. The complexification of matter increased until it naturally and logically made the leap to the next stage. The last and final stage of evolution of space and time is consciousness. So it seems logical that consciousness would also increase in complexity until it to made the leap to the next stage which Chardin describes as Christ consciousness.

1. The universe began as a soup of subatomic particles and radiation and naturally and logically complexified into hydrogen and helium. This is what is called the cosmic stage of the evolution of space and time.
2. Hydrogen and helium then naturally and logically complexified into structures like stars and galaxies. This is what is called the stellar stage of the evolution of space and time.
3. From the life cycle of galaxies and stars all of the other elements and compounds were naturally and logically formed. This is what is called the chemical stage of the evolution of space and time.
4. As chemical evolution naturally and logically complexified the leap to biological life was made. This is what is called the biological stage of the evolution of space and time.
5. As life logically and naturally evolved and complexified the leap to consciousness was made. This is what is called the conscious stage of of the evolution of space and time.

So we can see that each successive stage of the evolution of space and time complexified until it made the leap to the next stage. And it did so naturally and logically. So Chardin's assumption that consciousness will make the leap to a Christ consciousness is logical because it presumes that consciousness will evolve and complexify and make the leap to the next level because every other stage of the evolution of space and time did so too before it.

 

[Hafar1014]

Potentially divine? We are God's creatures. We are not divine, potential or otherwise. We are beings that know and create but we are still animals while in the flesh.

Evolution is anything which moves from a less complex state to a more complex state.

Likeness of God means potentially divine as interpreted by the Jews who wrote this in the first place. " In our image, after our likeness." His character is potentially divine. We have to earn it. You may be creature but Im a human being. Jews elevate the stature of humanity you reduce it to nothing more than an animal.
Evolution is the ability to survive long enough to reproduce. Fecundity. Not more complex more adaptive.

 

[Hafar1014]

Incorrect. I got that through the study of the evolution of space and time.

There have been 5 stages of evolution of space and time; cosmic evolution, stellar evolution, chemical evolution, biological evolution and evolution of consciousness.

In his book, "The Phenomenon of Man" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin describes evolution as a process that leads to increasing complexity, culminating in a Christ consciousness. He limited his observations to biological evolution but the same observation can be made about all stages of the evolution of space and time. The complexification of matter increased until it naturally and logically made the leap to the next stage. The last and final stage of evolution of space and time is consciousness. So it seems logical that consciousness would also increase in complexity until it to made the leap to the next stage which Chardin describes as Christ consciousness.

1. The universe began as a soup of subatomic particles and radiation and naturally and logically complexified into hydrogen and helium. This is what is called the cosmic stage of the evolution of space and time.
2. Hydrogen and helium then naturally and logically complexified into structures like stars and galaxies. This is what is called the stellar stage of the evolution of space and time.
3. From the life cycle of galaxies and stars all of the other elements and compounds were naturally and logically formed. This is what is called the chemical stage of the evolution of space and time.
4. As chemical evolution naturally and logically complexified the leap to biological life was made. This is what is called the biological stage of the evolution of space and time.
5. As life logically and naturally evolved and complexified the leap to consciousness was made. This is what is called the conscious stage of of the evolution of space and time.

So we can see that each successive stage of the evolution of space and time complexified until it made the leap to the next stage. And it did so naturally and logically. So Chardin's assumption that consciousness will make the leap to a Christ consciousness is logical because it presumes that consciousness will evolve and complexify and make the leap to the next level because every other stage of the evolution of space and time did so too before it.

Thats called pseudo science. No different from astrology

 

[Seymour Flops]

Incorrect. I got that through the study of the evolution of space and time.

There have been 5 stages of evolution of space and time; cosmic evolution, stellar evolution, chemical evolution, biological evolution and evolution of consciousness.

In his book, "The Phenomenon of Man" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin describes evolution as a process that leads to increasing complexity, culminating in a Christ consciousness. He limited his observations to biological evolution but the same observation can be made about all stages of the evolution of space and time. The complexification of matter increased until it naturally and logically made the leap to the next stage. The last and final stage of evolution of space and time is consciousness. So it seems logical that consciousness would also increase in complexity until it to made the leap to the next stage which Chardin describes as Christ consciousness.

1. The universe began as a soup of subatomic particles and radiation and naturally and logically complexified into hydrogen and helium. This is what is called the cosmic stage of the evolution of space and time.
2. Hydrogen and helium then naturally and logically complexified into structures like stars and galaxies. This is what is called the stellar stage of the evolution of space and time.
3. From the life cycle of galaxies and stars all of the other elements and compounds were naturally and logically formed. This is what is called the chemical stage of the evolution of space and time.
4. As chemical evolution naturally and logically complexified the leap to biological life was made. This is what is called the biological stage of the evolution of space and time.
5. As life logically and naturally evolved and complexified the leap to consciousness was made. This is what is called the conscious stage of of the evolution of space and time.

So we can see that each successive stage of the evolution of space and time complexified until it made the leap to the next stage. And it did so naturally and logically. So Chardin's assumption that consciousness will make the leap to a Christ consciousness is logical because it presumes that consciousness will evolve and complexify and make the leap to the next level because every other stage of the evolution of space and time did so too before it.

Interesting read.

Has the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics been repealed or modified, then?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Science says we are formed from star DUST as is everything else.

1) Everything was "created" from nothing. After God rested, He "formed" Adam from the dust.
2) No mention of "star dust." Just dust.

 

[Hafar1014]

1) Everything was "created" from nothing. After God rested, He "formed" Adam from the dust.
2) No mention of "star dust." Just dust.

The translation is form the Earth ODOM. Its a metaphor. Sagan refers to organic particles on meteors and comets hitting the earth. So its an interesting comparison. But a coincidence.

 

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Likeness of God means potentially divine as interpreted by the Jews who wrote this in the first place. " In our image, after our likeness." His character is potentially divine. We have to earn it. You may be creature but Im a human being. Jews elevate the stature of humanity you reduce it to nothing more than an animal.

You are an animal. We all are. You aren't special. None of us are.

Evolution is the ability to survive long enough to reproduce. Fecundity. Not more complex more adaptive.

And yet life has increased in complexity which is how it has adapted. Evolution is not the ability to survive long enough to reproduce. That is a characteristic of living things, not the definition of evolution.

Fecundity refers to the biological capacity or potential to produce an abundance of offspring, young, or new growth. It indicates the ability to reproduce (as opposed to fertility, the actual number of offspring produced) and can also describe high creative productivity, such as "fecundity of mind".

Biological evolution is the gradual, continuous process of change and development, most commonly referring to the change in inherited traits of biological populations over successive generations. Evolution is not limited to biology and is anything which moves from a less complex state to a more complex state.

 

[Seymour Flops]

We know that the universe was created, by the fact that it exists.

The alternative is that it has existed in an infinite past, in which case it should be in near total entropy by now according to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.