Dick Cheney would be considered brilliant if

[jillian]

Wow.. I stumbled in to the "guys who obsess over Dick Cheney" forum, wonderful.

Is it the "Dick" part that gets you sissies going?

and since they obsess about Bush the other half the time, that would make them....bisexual?

what do you call the people who are obsessing over palin and obama?

 

[elvis]

Wow.. I stumbled in to the "guys who obsess over Dick Cheney" forum, wonderful.

Is it the "Dick" part that gets you sissies going?

and since they obsess about Bush the other half the time, that would make them....bisexual?

what do you call the people who are obsessing over palin and obama?

I don't know. I'll have to think about that one. or you can give me the punchline.

 

[Charles Stucker]

what do you call the people who are obsessing over palin

Well the Palin part is easy. If you think of Palin forward and backward, then you are a Palindrome.

Obama is more obscure, though it does have an interesting history. Turns outht e research into proto-indo-European has managed to uncover a few words and one of those proto-words was actually (as near as the mathematical reconstruction can make out) a lot like Obama. Apparently it meant "Bamboozle"

 

[CMike]

The World - Germs, Atoms and Poison Gas - The Iraqi Shell Game - NYTimes.com


The authors, Gary Milhollin and Kelly Nugent, based their work principally on reports from the United Nations Special Commission and the International Atomic Energy Agency, and statements by Richard Butler, the commission's chief inspector. POISON GAS

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 3.9 tons of VX nerve gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing this amount in 1988 and 1990. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The gas was low quality and the effort to make it failed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- VX nerve gas put into warheads. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- U.S. and French tests found traces of nerve gas on warhead remnants. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The evidence was planted.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- About 600 tons of ingredients for VX gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Out of 805 tons on hand, only 191 could be verified as destroyed. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything was destroyed or consumed in production.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Up to 3,000 tons of other poison gas agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing agents in the 1980's. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were used, thrown away or destroyed by U.S. bombs during the 1991 gulf war.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Several hundred additional tons of poison gas agents that Iraq may have produced. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq had enough ingredients to make more poison gas than it admits producing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- All poison gas production has been declared.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 4,000 tons of ingredients to make poison gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits importing or producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records of what happened to them are available.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 500 bombs with parachutes to deliver gas or germ payloads. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- About 550 artillery shells filled with mustard gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits they existed. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were lost shortly after the gulf war.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 107,500 casings for chemical arms HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing or importing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records are available.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 31,658 filled and empty chemical munitions. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing or importing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were thrown away, destroyed secretly or destroyed by U.S. bombs.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- An Iraqi Air Force document showing how much poison gas was used against Iran, and thus how much Iraq has left. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- A U.N. inspector held the document briefly in her hands before Iraq confiscated it. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Inspectors might be able to see it, but only in the presence of the Secretary General's personal envoy.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The results of a project to make binary artillery shells for sarin nerve gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it ran such a project and made experimental shells. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- There are no records or physical traces of the program.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Production procedures for making poison gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Such proceedures are needed for large-scale production. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No documents containing these procedures can be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents showing the overall size of the chemical weapons program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined that specific documents are still missing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No such documents can be found.

GERM WARFARE AGENTS UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 157 aerial bombs filled with germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits filling this many. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed. UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 25 missile warheads containing germ agents (anthrax, aflotoxin and botulinum). HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.


UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Excess germ warfare agent. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing more of the agent than was used to fill munitions. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The excess was secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Spraying equipment to deliver germ agents by helicopter. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it tested such equipment. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq refuses to explain what happened to it.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The results of a project to deliver germ agents by drop tanks. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the project existed, but inspectors cannot verify Iraq's account. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything has been accounted for.


UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Growth media to produce three or four times the amount of anthrax Iraq admits producing. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- U.N. inspectors discovered that this much was imported. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Either the material was not imported or it went to a civilian lab.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Equipment to produce germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq provided an incomplete inventory. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything has been accounted for.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Program to dry germ agents so they are easier to store and use. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors saw a document revealing the program's existence. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No such program existed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Log book showing purchases for the germ warfare program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors saw the log book in 1995. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The book cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- List of imported ingredients for germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the document exists. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The document cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- List of ingredients for germ agents stored at Iraq's main germ facility. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the document exists. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The document cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The total amount of germ agents Iraq produced (anthrax, botulinum, gas gangrene, aflatoxin). HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Production capacity far exceeds the amount Iraq admits producing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq did not use full capacity.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Components for three to four implosion-type nuclear weapons, lacking only uranium fuel. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Intelligence gathered by the former U.N. inspector Scott Ritter. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Such weapons do not exist.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Drawings showing the latest stage of Iraq's nuclear weapon design. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined the drawings must exist. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Cannot explain why the drawings are missing.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Design drawings of individual nuclear weapon components, including the precise dimensions of explosive lenses. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Other drawings show that these drawings. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq no longer has these drawings exist.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Drawings of how to mate a nuclear warhead to a missile. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Other drawings show that these drawings exist. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq no longer has these drawings.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents detailing cooperation among various Iraqi nuclear weapon and missile groups. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- The cooperation must have generated a paper trail. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No response.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents revealing how far Iraq got in developing centrifuges to process uranium to weapons grade. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq tested one or two prototypes. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The documents were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 170 technical reports explaining how to produce and operate these centrifuges. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits a German supplier provided them, and a few were found. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The documents were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Materials and equipment belonging to Iraq's most advanced nuclear weapon design team. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors have determined that important items are still missing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq has provided everything it can find.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Materials and equipment belonging to the group trying to process uranium to nuclear weapons grade. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors have determined that important items are still missing WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq has provided everything it can find.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The name and whereabouts of a foreign national who offered to help Iraq's nuclear program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors were informed that the offer was made. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Inspectors should consult an Iraqi expatriate who might provide a lead. (They did; it was a dead end.)

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents proving Iraq's claim that it abandoned its secret nuclar-bomb program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined that such a step must have been recorded. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records can be found. BALLISTIC MISSILES U

NACCOUNTED FOR -- Seven, locally-produced ballistic missiles. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed in 1991. UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Two operational missiles that Iraq imported. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed in 1991.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Components for missile guidance that Iraq imported. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq supplied an inventory but it was incomplete. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Up to 150 tons of material for missile production. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had it; destruction could not be verified. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- It was secretly melted or dumped into rivers and canals.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Liquid fuel for long-range missiles. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- It was secretly destroyed and will not be discussed further.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Up to 50 Scud-type missile warheads, presumably for high exposives. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Drawings showing how to together a Scud missile. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq needed such drawings to produce these missiles. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- All available drawings were provided.

I'm sorry - I missed that. Could you repeat it please?

Glad you asked

The World - Germs, Atoms and Poison Gas - The Iraqi Shell Game - NYTimes.com


The authors, Gary Milhollin and Kelly Nugent, based their work principally on reports from the United Nations Special Commission and the International Atomic Energy Agency, and statements by Richard Butler, the commission's chief inspector. POISON GAS

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 3.9 tons of VX nerve gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing this amount in 1988 and 1990. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The gas was low quality and the effort to make it failed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- VX nerve gas put into warheads. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- U.S. and French tests found traces of nerve gas on warhead remnants. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The evidence was planted.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- About 600 tons of ingredients for VX gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Out of 805 tons on hand, only 191 could be verified as destroyed. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything was destroyed or consumed in production.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Up to 3,000 tons of other poison gas agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing agents in the 1980's. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were used, thrown away or destroyed by U.S. bombs during the 1991 gulf war.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Several hundred additional tons of poison gas agents that Iraq may have produced. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq had enough ingredients to make more poison gas than it admits producing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- All poison gas production has been declared.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 4,000 tons of ingredients to make poison gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits importing or producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records of what happened to them are available.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 500 bombs with parachutes to deliver gas or germ payloads. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- About 550 artillery shells filled with mustard gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits they existed. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were lost shortly after the gulf war.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 107,500 casings for chemical arms HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing or importing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records are available.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 31,658 filled and empty chemical munitions. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing or importing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were thrown away, destroyed secretly or destroyed by U.S. bombs.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- An Iraqi Air Force document showing how much poison gas was used against Iran, and thus how much Iraq has left. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- A U.N. inspector held the document briefly in her hands before Iraq confiscated it. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Inspectors might be able to see it, but only in the presence of the Secretary General's personal envoy.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The results of a project to make binary artillery shells for sarin nerve gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it ran such a project and made experimental shells. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- There are no records or physical traces of the program.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Production procedures for making poison gas. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Such proceedures are needed for large-scale production. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No documents containing these procedures can be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents showing the overall size of the chemical weapons program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined that specific documents are still missing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No such documents can be found.

GERM WARFARE AGENTS UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 157 aerial bombs filled with germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits filling this many. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed. UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- At least 25 missile warheads containing germ agents (anthrax, aflotoxin and botulinum). HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.


UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Excess germ warfare agent. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits producing more of the agent than was used to fill munitions. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The excess was secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Spraying equipment to deliver germ agents by helicopter. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it tested such equipment. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq refuses to explain what happened to it.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The results of a project to deliver germ agents by drop tanks. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the project existed, but inspectors cannot verify Iraq's account. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything has been accounted for.


UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Growth media to produce three or four times the amount of anthrax Iraq admits producing. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- U.N. inspectors discovered that this much was imported. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Either the material was not imported or it went to a civilian lab.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Equipment to produce germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq provided an incomplete inventory. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Everything has been accounted for.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Program to dry germ agents so they are easier to store and use. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors saw a document revealing the program's existence. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No such program existed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Log book showing purchases for the germ warfare program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors saw the log book in 1995. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The book cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- List of imported ingredients for germ agents. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the document exists. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The document cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- List of ingredients for germ agents stored at Iraq's main germ facility. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits the document exists. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The document cannot be found.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The total amount of germ agents Iraq produced (anthrax, botulinum, gas gangrene, aflatoxin). HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Production capacity far exceeds the amount Iraq admits producing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq did not use full capacity.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Components for three to four implosion-type nuclear weapons, lacking only uranium fuel. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Intelligence gathered by the former U.N. inspector Scott Ritter. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Such weapons do not exist.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Drawings showing the latest stage of Iraq's nuclear weapon design. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined the drawings must exist. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Cannot explain why the drawings are missing.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Design drawings of individual nuclear weapon components, including the precise dimensions of explosive lenses. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Other drawings show that these drawings. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq no longer has these drawings exist.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Drawings of how to mate a nuclear warhead to a missile. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Other drawings show that these drawings exist. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq no longer has these drawings.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents detailing cooperation among various Iraqi nuclear weapon and missile groups. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- The cooperation must have generated a paper trail. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No response.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents revealing how far Iraq got in developing centrifuges to process uranium to weapons grade. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq tested one or two prototypes. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The documents were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- 170 technical reports explaining how to produce and operate these centrifuges. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits a German supplier provided them, and a few were found. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- The documents were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Materials and equipment belonging to Iraq's most advanced nuclear weapon design team. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors have determined that important items are still missing. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq has provided everything it can find.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Materials and equipment belonging to the group trying to process uranium to nuclear weapons grade. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors have determined that important items are still missing WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Iraq has provided everything it can find.

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- The name and whereabouts of a foreign national who offered to help Iraq's nuclear program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors were informed that the offer was made. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- Inspectors should consult an Iraqi expatriate who might provide a lead. (They did; it was a dead end.)

UNACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQ -- Documents proving Iraq's claim that it abandoned its secret nuclar-bomb program. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Inspectors determined that such a step must have been recorded. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- No records can be found. BALLISTIC MISSILES U

NACCOUNTED FOR -- Seven, locally-produced ballistic missiles. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed in 1991. UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Two operational missiles that Iraq imported. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed in 1991.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Components for missile guidance that Iraq imported. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq supplied an inventory but it was incomplete. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Up to 150 tons of material for missile production. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had it; destruction could not be verified. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- It was secretly melted or dumped into rivers and canals.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Liquid fuel for long-range missiles. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- It was secretly destroyed and will not be discussed further.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Up to 50 Scud-type missile warheads, presumably for high exposives. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq admits it had them. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- They were secretly destroyed.

UNACCOUNTED FOR -- Drawings showing how to together a Scud missile. HOW INSPECTORS KNOW -- Iraq needed such drawings to produce these missiles. WHAT IRAQ SAYS -- All available drawings were provided

 

[ElmerMudd]

There was a time you would shake your head and laugh at people like CMike and Charley.

But now we have seen where their interpretations of history and their interpretation of our current governments status can lead.

The wacko militias like the one who was plotting to kill a policeman and then bomb the funeral to start the revolution spewed the same kind of rhetoric as Charley and CMike.

It is not funny. The twisted thinking of these wackos is a threat.

In the 60's and 70's the wacko groups came from the far left; the Symboiese Liberation Front et all.

Now the threat is coming from the wackos from the far right.

At the end of the day, even though they come from opposite ends of the political spectrum, they are the same; individuals with horribly twisted view of reality that feel it is OK to use violence to bring change. It is the same mentality as the terrorists.

 

[CMike]

The threat to the left that they consistently try to battle is the truth.

 

[CMike]

There was a time you would shake your head and laugh at people like CMike and Charley.

But now we have seen where their interpretations of history and their interpretation of our current governments status can lead.

The wacko militias like the one who was plotting to kill a policeman and then bomb the funeral to start the revolution spewed the same kind of rhetoric as Charley and CMike.

It is not funny. The twisted thinking of these wackos is a threat.

In the 60's and 70's the wacko groups came from the far left; the Symboiese Liberation Front et all.

Now the threat is coming from the wackos from the far right.

At the end of the day, even though they come from opposite ends of the political spectrum, they are the same; individuals with horribly twisted view of reality that feel it is OK to use violence to bring change. It is the same mentality as the terrorists.

I guess you gotta send your communist "truth squad goons" to silence those that dissent from the marxism of you and your leaders.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA0nld86tGw]YouTube - Greatest movie line ever![/ame]

 

[ElmerMudd]

There was a time you would shake your head and laugh at people like CMike and Charley.

But now we have seen where their interpretations of history and their interpretation of our current governments status can lead.

The wacko militias like the one who was plotting to kill a policeman and then bomb the funeral to start the revolution spewed the same kind of rhetoric as Charley and CMike.

It is not funny. The twisted thinking of these wackos is a threat.

In the 60's and 70's the wacko groups came from the far left; the Symboiese Liberation Front et all.

Now the threat is coming from the wackos from the far right.

At the end of the day, even though they come from opposite ends of the political spectrum, they are the same; individuals with horribly twisted view of reality that feel it is OK to use violence to bring change. It is the same mentality as the terrorists.

I guess you gotta send your communist "truth squad goons" to silence those that dissent from the marxism of you and your leaders.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA0nld86tGw]YouTube - Greatest movie line ever![/ame]

Your words illuminate who you are. I believe in freedom of speech. I encourage freedom of speech.

Just make sure your twisted thinking does not turn into twisted actions.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Just make sure your twisted thinking does not turn into twisted actions.

You mean like violating the constitution?
FDR did that and you think it made him great.

In case you failed history - when FDR rammed his unconstitutional Ponzi scheme (AKA Socialist Security) through congress the Supreme Court ruled against it. So FDR unconstitutionally changed the number of sitting justices so he could put his lapdogs in there and get a different ruling. That's called eliminating the system of checks and balances, the system upon which our government was built. It violated the constitution and flew in the face of everything that made America great.

Go peddle your Marxist idolatry elsewhere.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Just make sure your twisted thinking does not turn into twisted actions.

You mean like violating the constitution?
FDR did that and you think it made him great.

In case you failed history - when FDR rammed his unconstitutional Ponzi scheme (AKA Socialist Security) through congress the Supreme Court ruled against it. So FDR unconstitutionally changed the number of sitting justices so he could put his lapdogs in there and get a different ruling. That's called eliminating the system of checks and balances, the system upon which our government was built. It violated the constitution and flew in the face of everything that made America great.

Go peddle your Marxist idolatry elsewhere.

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch. (not Charley) Over the past 70 years none of FDR's reforms were found unconstitutional.

You idiot.

You think you know better than the system put in place by our founding Fathers. You don't realize your twisted rhetoric counters the constitution.

Our founding Fathers knew there would be nut cases like you. That is why they created checks and balance within the system that overides individual nut cases like you.

You idiot.

My Mother always said do not resort to name calling unless you are dealing with an absolute idiot.

You idiot.

 

[CMike]

There was a time you would shake your head and laugh at people like CMike and Charley.

But now we have seen where their interpretations of history and their interpretation of our current governments status can lead.

The wacko militias like the one who was plotting to kill a policeman and then bomb the funeral to start the revolution spewed the same kind of rhetoric as Charley and CMike.

It is not funny. The twisted thinking of these wackos is a threat.

In the 60's and 70's the wacko groups came from the far left; the Symboiese Liberation Front et all.

Now the threat is coming from the wackos from the far right.

At the end of the day, even though they come from opposite ends of the political spectrum, they are the same; individuals with horribly twisted view of reality that feel it is OK to use violence to bring change. It is the same mentality as the terrorists.

I guess you gotta send your communist "truth squad goons" to silence those that dissent from the marxism of you and your leaders.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA0nld86tGw]YouTube - Greatest movie line ever![/ame]

Your words illuminate who you are. I believe in freedom of speech. I encourage freedom of speech.

Just make sure your twisted thinking does not turn into twisted actions.

I wish Barak Hussein would realize this. No doubt his dare to the republicans to "bring it on" about his Obamacare is going to incite massive violence and unrest.

 

[CMike]

Based on the liberal criteria Cheney is brilliant.

 

[CMike]

Just make sure your twisted thinking does not turn into twisted actions.

You mean like violating the constitution?
FDR did that and you think it made him great.

In case you failed history - when FDR rammed his unconstitutional Ponzi scheme (AKA Socialist Security) through congress the Supreme Court ruled against it. So FDR unconstitutionally changed the number of sitting justices so he could put his lapdogs in there and get a different ruling. That's called eliminating the system of checks and balances, the system upon which our government was built. It violated the constitution and flew in the face of everything that made America great.

Go peddle your Marxist idolatry elsewhere.

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch. (not Charley) Over the past 70 years none of FDR's reforms were found unconstitutional.

You idiot.

You think you know better than the system put in place by our founding Fathers. You don't realize your twisted rhetoric counters the constitution.

Our founding Fathers knew there would be nut cases like you. That is why they created checks and balance within the system that overides individual nut cases like you.

You idiot.

My Mother always said do not resort to name calling unless you are dealing with an absolute idiot.

You idiot.

You are the idiot. You are just too much of an idiot to realize it.

 

[Charles Stucker]

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch.

And when the Executive branch destroys that balance by picking his own toadies to outnumber the sitting justices, men chosen specifically to override the ones who actually upheld the constitutional system, then that's OK because you're a socialist moron.
Go it.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You mean like violating the constitution?
FDR did that and you think it made him great.

In case you failed history - when FDR rammed his unconstitutional Ponzi scheme (AKA Socialist Security) through congress the Supreme Court ruled against it. So FDR unconstitutionally changed the number of sitting justices so he could put his lapdogs in there and get a different ruling. That's called eliminating the system of checks and balances, the system upon which our government was built. It violated the constitution and flew in the face of everything that made America great.

Go peddle your Marxist idolatry elsewhere.

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch. (not Charley) Over the past 70 years none of FDR's reforms were found unconstitutional.

You idiot.

You think you know better than the system put in place by our founding Fathers. You don't realize your twisted rhetoric counters the constitution.

Our founding Fathers knew there would be nut cases like you. That is why they created checks and balance within the system that overides individual nut cases like you.

You idiot.

My Mother always said do not resort to name calling unless you are dealing with an absolute idiot.

You idiot.

You are the idiot. You are just too much of an idiot to realize it.

Oh good one. You are good.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch.

And when the Executive branch destroys that balance by picking his own toadies to outnumber the sitting justices, men chosen specifically to override the ones who actually upheld the constitutional system, then that's OK because you're a socialist moron.
Go it.

What world do you live in?
More of the current justices have been appointed by Republican presidents than Democratic presidents.
There is also a confirmation that includes the legislative branch. That usually mediates the political leaning of the justice appointed.
The current court leans conservative 5 to 4. Do you read? Can you read?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Bush Jr. wiped his ass with the Constitution and appointed political appointment judges as well.

What are you going to say about that?

 

[Charles Stucker]

The constitutionality of actions of the executive branch and the legislative branch are determined by the judicial branch.

And when the Executive branch destroys that balance by picking his own toadies to outnumber the sitting justices, men chosen specifically to override the ones who actually upheld the constitutional system, then that's OK because you're a socialist moron.
Go it.

What world do you live in?
More of the current justices have been appointed by Republican presidents than Democratic presidents.
There is also a confirmation that includes the legislative branch. That usually mediates the political leaning of the justice appointed.
The current court leans conservative 5 to 4. Do you read? Can you read?

Hello Retard
1930's
That's when the GREAT SOCIALIST known as FDR stacked the court. To pass his unconstitutional Socialist Security program (AKA the biggest Ponzi scheme ever)
Now there is that beloved "precedent" which keeps the current justices from overturning the previous ruling. You really are too stupid for words.

 

[froggy]

Obama’s DOJ Wants to Protect Cheney From Political Embarrassment | The Public Record

Shouldn't Dick Cheney Be Impeached?

 

[Douger]

The Dick IS a genius.
He transferred all of your wealth, and your chillunz and grandchillunz wealth, to his government contractor buddies and you didn't do a damn thing about it.

Then he wiped out the constitution and bill of rights with the patriot act and nothing happened.
That very moment there should have been a violent armed revolution and politicians of all types swinging by their necks in public places.
It didn't happen.
I packed my bags and voted with my feet.