DeSantis blames lack of media coverage for resurge of COVID cases

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

I guess your a bully if you stand up for yourself and Trump is very, very good at standing up for himself.

You really are seven kinds of an idiot.

Call me an idiot all you want but you’re the one on here trying to claim that Trump isn’t a bully because he’s just standing up for himself. What a joke.

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

I guess your a bully if you stand up for yourself and Trump is very, very good at standing up for himself.

You really are seven kinds of an idiot.

Call me an idiot all you want but you’re the one on here trying to claim that Trump isn’t a bully because he’s just standing up for himself. What a joke.

Why are you a "bully" when all you're doing is standing up to bullies? Trump attacks the Press for unfairly attacking him! That ISN'T being a bully...it's simply not letting yourself BE bullied!

 

[Sunsettommy]

"Anti-mask advocates were handing out free food to people who rejected science-based safety measures in Florida on Saturday, the same day the state set a new record with 15,300 new reported cases of COVID-19."

Florida anti-mask group rewarded maskless diners with free grilled cheese

Anti-mask protest leaders bought grilled cheese for 100 people who agreed to eat at the restaurant without a mask.

globalnews.ca

Never in my life have I seen public health and science so politicized. I want to say just let natural selection do its job....all these idiots are taking a high dive into the shallow end of the gene pool.

You already forgot who started this political game?

Try recalling what Biden, Pelosi, Clinton said about his closing the border to Chinese nation, way back in about February time.

 

[Oldestyle]

You look at the average CNN telecast and tell me THAT isn't a collection of "bullies"! Chris Cuomo? He doesn't care about facts...his only concern is about coming up with something...anything...that he can attack Donald Trump with!

 

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

 

[Slade3200]

You look at the average CNN telecast and tell me THAT isn't a collection of "bullies"! Chris Cuomo? He doesn't care about facts...his only concern is about coming up with something...anything...that he can attack Donald Trump with!

Cuomo shoots it straight and has Reps from both sides on his show nightly to debate issues. If you’re pointing to his show then I don’t believe you watch his show. You’ve what, just seen out of context clips?

 

[iceberg]

"Anti-mask advocates were handing out free food to people who rejected science-based safety measures in Florida on Saturday, the same day the state set a new record with 15,300 new reported cases of COVID-19."

Florida anti-mask group rewarded maskless diners with free grilled cheese

Anti-mask protest leaders bought grilled cheese for 100 people who agreed to eat at the restaurant without a mask.

globalnews.ca

Never in my life have I seen public health and science so politicized. I want to say just let natural selection do its job....all these idiots are taking a high dive into the shallow end of the gene pool.

yep. they never should have said things like "we can make our dreams come true using this virus" or "protesting is more important than the virus"

way too political.

 

[iceberg]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

 

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

 

[Coyote]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He is right about that. That is what makes i credibly hard to respect Trump

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

 

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

Look it up Trump denied meeting with Russian several times. Flynned did and lied about it. Trumps son and advisors did and lied about it. Look at the Mueller report. Lies lies lies. All uncovered. Like I said, without the lies there wouldn’t have been a need for the investigation

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

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He is right about that. That is what makes i credibly hard to respect Trump

With all due respect, Coyote? I think you're dead wrong in that appraisal of Trump! George W. Bush ignored the media when they attacked him with false narratives. Did that ever make them attack him less? Or did it embolden them to attack him more? Someone like a Jim Acosta isn't going to play nice if you ignore him. He's going to see it as a sign of weakness. As it stands now his name has become synonymous with biased reporting of the news. Like him or dislike him...it's hard to view him as a journalist at this point. He's a bomb thrower...pure and simple!

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

Look it up Trump denied meeting with Russian several times. Flynned did and lied about it. Trumps son and advisors did and lied about it. Look at the Mueller report. Lies lies lies. All uncovered. Like I said, without the lies there wouldn’t have been a need for the investigation

Show me where Trump EVER denied meeting with Russians? What he denied...over and over again...was that he colluded with any Russians to affect our elections. Show us all where that was proven in the Mueller Report!

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

Look it up Trump denied meeting with Russian several times. Flynned did and lied about it. Trumps son and advisors did and lied about it. Look at the Mueller report. Lies lies lies. All uncovered. Like I said, without the lies there wouldn’t have been a need for the investigation

And without the lies that were contained in the phony dossiers that Hillary and the DNC paid for...there never would have BEEN an investigation and for good reason!

 

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

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He is right about that. That is what makes i credibly hard to respect Trump

With all due respect, Coyote? I think you're dead wrong in that appraisal of Trump! George W. Bush ignored the media when they attacked him with false narratives. Did that ever make them attack him less? Or did it embolden them to attack him more? Someone like a Jim Acosta isn't going to play nice if you ignore him. He's going to see it as a sign of weakness. As it stands now his name has become synonymous with biased reporting of the news. Like him or dislike him...it's hard to view him as a journalist at this point. He's a bomb thrower...pure and simple!

Yes actually the way Bush conducted himself resulted in less attacks from the media than Trump gets... isnt that obvious?
Act like an adult, be honest, be respectful and set an example... that’s what an American president should do.

 

[Oldestyle]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He is right about that. That is what makes i credibly hard to respect Trump

With all due respect, Coyote? I think you're dead wrong in that appraisal of Trump! George W. Bush ignored the media when they attacked him with false narratives. Did that ever make them attack him less? Or did it embolden them to attack him more? Someone like a Jim Acosta isn't going to play nice if you ignore him. He's going to see it as a sign of weakness. As it stands now his name has become synonymous with biased reporting of the news. Like him or dislike him...it's hard to view him as a journalist at this point. He's a bomb thrower...pure and simple!

Yes actually the way Bush conducted himself resulted in less attacks from the media than Trump gets... isnt that obvious?
Act like an adult, be honest, be respectful and set an example... that’s what an American president should do.

Less attacks? Since Donald Trump has been attacked by the Main Stream Media at unprecedented levels ever since he won the Republican nomination...Bush being attacked "less" is hardly shocking! W. Didn't beat the liberals darling Hillary either! Plus he got that honeymoon period following 9/11 when the media was afraid to attack him. Yet the main stream media DID attack him savagely!

Contrast how the media has treated the last three Presidents...it's telling!

 

[Slade3200]

From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

Look it up Trump denied meeting with Russian several times. Flynned did and lied about it. Trumps son and advisors did and lied about it. Look at the Mueller report. Lies lies lies. All uncovered. Like I said, without the lies there wouldn’t have been a need for the investigation

Show me where Trump EVER denied meeting with Russians? What he denied...over and over again...was that he colluded with any Russians to affect our elections. Show us all where that was proven in the Mueller Report!

Are you seriously challenging the notion that Trump denied meeting with Russians during the campaign?! We’re you paying attention ruin at all?! Holy shit. Feels like you’re trolling and just trying to waste my time

here:

Timeline: Trump and associates denied Russia involvement at least 20 times

In the 13 months after three of Donald Trump’s closest advisers met with a Russian lawyer, the Trump camp consistently denied collusion with Russia

www.theguardian.com

 

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From what I've been reading most of the Covid cases, aren't Covid at all.

That’s interesting... what’s causing the hospitals and morgues to overcrowd in Florida and Texas?

We've got a bit of a scandal rearing it's ugly head down here in Florida about testing and testing results, Slade! A testing center reporting positive tests of 9.84% was counted in the State totals as 98.4%. Several other testing sites showed 100% positive tests...a statistically improbable result! Our local hospital is so empty that 3 floors remain closed. I know the main stream media WANTS the rest of the world to think that Florida is overwhelmed by Covid 19 but the truth is far from that! They have managed to scare the shit out of people again...something that will result in thousands more businesses probably not making it through this pandemic! But that's what you liberals have wanted since this started...isn't it, Slade?

Yup and they have only had 4,520 deaths here in Florida which is my home state.

I doubt the morgues are overflowing.

Freezer trucks are reported to be going to Texas and Arizona morgues... icu with no beds left in Miami and other hospitals getting close to capacity in Florida. 600 nurses being sent in.

Yet you don't post the evidence and link for it.

You talk a lot, but don't back it up when challenged.

You have a gun at your head, preventing you from posting the evidence?

I posted links to reports showing ICU bed shortages in Florida and Freezer trucks being sent to morgues in Texas and Arizona. Proof I wasn’t lying. You may apologize now

Kinda funny they would need freezer trucks for 3,582 dead in Texas. I'd say the press if full of shit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+dead+in+texas+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=how+many+dead+in+Texas+from&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.6911j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Why don’t you call a couple morgues in the areas the reports reference and check it out. You’re just making assumptions at this point. And I really don’t understand this effort that people like you are putting into trying to minimize and discredit this thing... people are actually getting sick and dying. Why wouldn’t you take the safer approach in situations like this? Your narratives only promote dangerous actions

Conservatives are making this effort to minimize the severity of the pandemic and discredit factual reporting about the pandemic because they’re afraid Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic will cost Trump a second term.

We're making an effort to save the US economy before we slip back into another Great Depression! You WANT the economy to crater because you grasp that's probably the only way a senile old idiot like Joe Biden would ever get elected President!

No one wants the economy collapse. Why do you insist on making a public health issue about the election?

With all due respect, Coyote...that's incredibly naive on your part! The only way that Joe Biden has a prayer of being elected President is if the economy stays collapsed until November and the main stream media can continue to blame Trump for that collapse. You may not want to admit that's the case but it doesn't change the fact that it is!

You really think people are that stupid? We know who Trumpnis and we know who Biden is. Trust in media at at an all time low. How many people do you really think the media is influencing?

Trust in the media is at an all time low because the main stream media has no journalistic ethics left whatsoever! The New York Times used to have a great reputation...now they're regarded as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They lie without thinking. The Washington Post? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? PBS? USA Today? They're all as slanted as the Times! 90% of their coverage is negative when it comes to covering this Administration! They are the embodiment of a "the end justifies the means" mentality!

As for us knowing who Joe Biden is? We should! He's been running for President since the Watergate hearings! Joe Biden is a career politician. He's a Washington insider. Part of the problem that's brought us to this point! He's never been a bright man. You don't have to cheat your way through college if you are! He's always had a habit of saying something so incredibly stupid at some point in every election he makes a run in that people laugh and he's done! He'd do it this year too except his handlers are hiding him in his basement so he can't screw up. They know he's senile. I think you do too! We know who Joe Biden is? You're right...we do!

Trump deserves negative coverage as he and his bots have been out there spreading lies non stop. Of course that’s going to lead to negative coverage. Even the Trump friendly Fox has over 50% negative coverage on the guy. He brings it on himself by how he behaves.

You act like Biden’s time in leadership has brought us to this horrible point. A few months ago we had the greatest everything in American history, didn’t we?. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but policies take years and decades to have practical effects on the economy and the state of the Union. The things Trump campaigned scorched earth about are the same things he then took credit for months later after he was elected. It’s all a con and you’re the sucker falling for it.

Nobody deserves negative coverage! What they DESERVE is fair coverage! Donald Trump has never gotten that.
Fox does in fact give Trump negative coverage when they feel it's deserved. That's what a news organization does that respects the truth. CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times...they flat out LIE about what Trump has done and what he's trying to do! They should be ashamed to even claim that they ARE journalists!
Joe Biden's time in office has brought us nothing. His ass has sat in the Senate for so long and done so little that it's a joke that HE is a viable candidate for President! What he has done however is telling! He wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill...legislation that put more black people into prisons than any other law ever passed in this country! Yet he sits there and declares that HE is there for the blacks of this country and Donald Trump is the enemy? Do you remember when Donald Trump challenged blacks in this country to give him a chance? That he'd do right by them? He then gave them the best unemployment numbers they've EVER had! That wasn't idle bullshit on his part! He promised them something and he delivered on that promise!

Trump lies an bully’s people all the time so of course news outlets are going to call out this lies and inflammatory rhetoric. You call that negative but that’s because what Trumpnis saying is negative. Seriously, besides boasting about things that he’s not responsible for listen to his statements. Most of what he says is shit talk, lies and provocation... all negative. Like I said before it comes from the top.

Any media show or journalist who actually lies should be called out, exposed and punished. It does happen, but not nearly as much as you try and paint.

You act like the main stream media HASN'T been called out or exposed...and yet they HAVE time after time! The entire "Russian Collusion" story was nothing but lies right from the start and even when the main stream media KNEW that was the case they still pushed the narrative! Trump isn't a "bully"...he simply won't take what they're putting out without a fight!

Of course they have and they should continue to get called out when wrong or dishonest about a story. This isn’t a new thing. Of course Trump is a bully. He is the definition of a bully. What are you talking about?!

So how SHOULD one respond when someone else tells deliberate lies about you? In a nice way? Do you really think for one second that this media would in any way back off to a nice response? Jim Acosta? Do you really think Jim Acosta is at those White House press briefings to "make nice"? Acosta flat out lies about what Kayleigh states and when he does so she calls him out on it! That's not being a "bully"...that's being a good Press Secretary!

Well first off you can ignore the trolls not lead by trolling... I have no problem with being tough in pushing back about falsehoods. I have no problem with being tough on liars. The problem is Trump doesn’t fight with the truth. He tells lies and the fights with more lies and smears. He name calls and plays petty mud flinging games. That’s not standing up for yourself, that’s acting like a child bully.

So the Main Stream Media accuses Trump of "colluding" with Russia in an attempt to steal the US Presidential election...something that Trump categorically denied ever happened! After years of investigation by the Mueller "team" which is made up primarily by Hillary Clinton supporters they find zero evidence that collusion ever took place! Does the Main Stream Media apologize to Trump and more importantly to the American public about pushing that narrative without proof? No...they continue to attack the President for defending himself against their lies!

That alone would be disturbing but what's REALLY galling is that it's now become quite obvious that people in the Obama Administration conspired along with the Clinton Campaign to use a series of fake dossiers (paid for by the DNC and Clinton!) to lie to FISA Court judges to get warrants to spy on people associated with the Trump Campaign! THAT is what really happened during that election! Yet the Main Stream Media not only slept through the biggest abuse of power by a sitting Administration EVER they actually were complicit in the attempt to smear Donald Trump and mislead the voters leading up to the election!

All caused by lies. As you said Trump denied ever meeting with Russian and what did the investigation unfold? Many meetings with Russians. Without the lies there wouldn’t have been an investigation. It’s very simple

When did Trump ever deny having "met" with Russians? He had business dealings with Russians for decades! What Trump denied is having ever colluded with Russians to affect our election and the Mueller investigation found ZERO proof of that ever happening! In fact the only colluding with foreign agents to affect our elections was done by the Democrats...specifically Hillary Clinton and the DNC! They PAID foreign agents to make up phony "dossiers" that they then leaked to a complicit press right before the election in about as sleazy a smear job as I've EVER seen in US politics! What's even worse though is that the Obama Administration then took those "dossiers"...that they KNEW were paid for by the Clinton Campaign and the DNC...and used them as the basis for FISA court wire taps on people connected with the Trump Campaign!
You're right...it is very simple! It just isn't anything you're claiming...but it is quite simple that Democrats pulled some of the sleaziest shit that we've seen since Tricky Dick was sitting in the Oval Office...only THIS time Obama and his minions had the Main Stream Media in their back pockets and haven't paid a price for any of the laws they broke!

Look it up Trump denied meeting with Russian several times. Flynned did and lied about it. Trumps son and advisors did and lied about it. Look at the Mueller report. Lies lies lies. All uncovered. Like I said, without the lies there wouldn’t have been a need for the investigation

And without the lies that were contained in the phony dossiers that Hillary and the DNC paid for...there never would have BEEN an investigation and for good reason!

Which lies?