Dems want Laws changed after Rittenhouse shootings. Are vigilantes the answer? (Poll)

[Oddball]

This is not the wild west. Civil and criminal liability is a thing now.

So is aquittal for protecting your own life and property, fucking thug.

 

[night_son]

This is not the wild west. Civil and criminal liability is a thing now.

I'll give you that. However, I'll raise you: modern America is not supposed to be running rampant with barbarian hordes fresh out of the medieval age either. If a man, a woman or an average American family cannot expect freedom from savage hordes when walking down their neighborhood streets then expect those same average Americans to arm themselves as if they are in fact living in medieval times.

 

[kyzr]

Idiocy.

1. Defunding the police is idiocy.
2. Having DAs not prosecute criminals is idiocy.
3. Not noticing a pregnant mother shot in the head twice, killing her and the baby is idiocy.
4. Not recognizing "self-defense" as legitimate, is idiocy.
5. Not promoting "law and order" while supporting violent rioters is idiocy.
6. Not recognizing that the democrat's urban policy "gun control" playbook just doesn't work, is idiocy.

I could keep going, but you should get my drift with those examples.

 

[OKTexas]

Typical fascist mass murder fantasy.

Only for those that prove they can't live in a civilized society. Tell the class how many stores you've looted and burned.

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[night_son]

1. Defunding the police is idiocy.
2. Having DAs not prosecute criminals is idiocy.
3. Not noticing a pregnant mother shot in the head twice, killing her and the baby is idiocy.
4. Not recognizing "self-defense" as legitimate, is idiocy.
5. Not promoting "law and order" while supporting violent rioters is idiocy.
6. Not recognizing that the democrat's urban policy "gun control" playbook just doesn't work, is idiocy.

I could keep going, but you should get my drift with those examples.

Our government at large, radical leftist activists in particular, want us, the American People to believe we will never need to defend ourselves and that they (the government) will always be there to protect us from the badmen. Tell me where I've heard this story before . . .

 

[Muhammed]

Most of those burned out businesses in Kenosha were mom and pop businesses.

Communists absolutely despise small business owners. They are the petite bourgeois. Poor working people who become middle class disprove their entire worldview.

 

[struth]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

yes people do that all the time

what makes you think someone has the right to damage a storefront?

 

[22lcidw]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

There are many small business stores that have been affected. Corporate chain stores that cater to residents affected also. Stop building them there. We all pay for looting and burning as well as theft.

 

[struth]

Having their insurance up to date is all any property owner needs to do. Hiring a goon squad has far more potential liability than most sensible business owners are willing to risk.

this is laughable.

 

[Mac-7]

“This verdict is disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country. Where is the justice in this,” de Blasio tweeted after the 18-year-old defendant was cleared of all charges in the deaths of two men and the wounding of a third during racially charged violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in 2020."

It was “racially charged” only because black radicals wanted it to be

 

[struth]

This is not the wild west. Civil and criminal liability is a thing now.

they were a think during the wild west era too

with that said having those liabilities does not mean that an individual does not have the right to defend themselves from your leftist brownshirts attacks

 

[maybelooking]

Having their insurance up to date is all any property owner needs to do. Hiring a goon squad has far more potential liability than most sensible business owners are willing to risk.

seems to be working for BLM.

 

[kyzr]

There are many small business stores that have been affected. Corporate chain stores that cater to residents affected also. Stop building them there. We all pay for looting and burning as well as theft.

Yep, then they whine about "food deserts" and "pharmacy deserts", and that turns to "urban blight" and then the coxuckers try to tell us what failed policies we need to implement.

 

[kyzr]

It was “racially charged” only because black radicals wanted it to be

Exactly! This was white-on-white, with zero black involvement, yet the radical blacks want to co-opt the "self-defense" story to fit their racist "white-supremacist" narrative, while ignoring the "black-on-black" mass murders that happen every day in the black controlled cities. Like that pregnant mother shot coming home from her baby shower.

 

[Resnic]

Vigalantes are not the answer. They are a answer, but not the best one.

The best answer is for politicians and the American people to start preaching "stop committing crimes" instead of "fuck the police". We need to start sticking up for real victims instead of sticking up for criminals. We need to go back to actually punishing criminals instead of calling them heroes.

Up until 2 years ago we had crime, we always had some, but nothing like today where we openly have roving gang of criminal thugs comitting crimes and breaking the law and no one does a thing about it and some even encourage them to do it.

We need conservatives in office now more than ever that will say "enough of this shit" and put their foot down.

Yeah the old school police had their rare issues but we need them back to keep order. Law enforcement should be feared by criminals.

 

[kyzr]

Vigilantes are not the answer. They are an answer, but not the best one.
The best answer is for politicians and the American people to start preaching "stop committing crimes" instead of "fuck the police". We need to start sticking up for real victims instead of sticking up for criminals. We need to go back to actually punishing criminals instead of calling them heroes.
Up until 2 years ago we had crime, we always had some, but nothing like today where we openly have roving gang of criminal thugs committing crimes and breaking the law and no one does a thing about it and some even encourage them to do it.
We need conservatives in office now more than ever that will say "enough of this shit" and put their foot down.
Yeah the old school police had their rare issues but we need them back to keep order. Law enforcement should be feared by criminals.

1. Totally agree with your post.
2. Effective policing and imprisonment, getting violent thugs off the streets, have always been the answer.
3. Problem is that effective policing looks racist. You can't say that more criminals are black, but they are, just look at the FBI statistics.
4. So when black pols win office they pull back policing, and crime increases,
5. The new NYC democrat mayor is preaching "law and order", we'll see what happens.
6. If effective policing fails, then self-defense and vigilantes is the only answer.

 

[Crepitus]

The poll is as accurate as it can be made

You're an idiot of you actually believe that.

I suppose it's possible you do.

 

[jc456]

Democrats on the Sunday morning shows, as well as many others want laws changed so that law abiding citizens can't defend themselves from criminals.
In SF gangs of looters emptied Louis Vitton and other high-end stores. What if Louis hired a few armed vigilantes?
In Philadelphia, a mom and baby were killed coming home from a baby shower,
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT'S OUTRAGE???????????????.

Pregnant Woman Shot, Killed Returning Home From Her Baby Shower, Philadelphia Police Say

A pregnant woman is dead after a shooting in the Crescentville section of Philadelphia.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

NYC Mayor DeBlasio said the Rittenhouse verdict "sends a horrible message"...
De Blasio joins NY’s left in raging over Kyle Rittenhouse — as NYPD on alert for potential unrest
“This verdict is disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country. Where is the justice in this,” de Blasio tweeted after the 18-year-old defendant was cleared of all charges in the deaths of two men and the wounding of a third during racially charged violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in 2020."

Biden, Adams, Sharpton and others weigh in on Rittenhouse verdict

The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse in a Kenosha, Wis., courtroom sparked plenty of opinions on Friday — divided in the same way the country is. The baby-faced gunman, who killed two men and wounded a third at a Black Lives Matter protest last year, was hailed as a hero in right-wing circles...

news.yahoo.com

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) tweeted, “It’s time to dismantle systemic racism & fundamentally transform our broken justice system.”

California Gov. Gavin Newsom worried about the precedent set by the Rittenhouse case.
“America today: you can break the law, carry around weapons built for a military, shoot and kill people, and get away with it,” the Democrat tweeted. “That’s the message we’ve just sent to armed vigilantes across the nation.”


What if neighborhoods organized vigilantes to shoot criminals in their neighborhoods, today's version of a "well regulated militia"? Would urban gang shootings stop?

Lets take a poll on what should happen when pols and DAs stop police from arresting and prosecuting violent criminals.

Should vigilantes fill the gap and protect neighborhoods from criminals?

[The OP and thread title are now better aligned, sorry for the closure of the first thread discussion]

so you're saying that the people crying to eliminate police aren't happy with the results of that which they asked? hahahahahahahahaaha defund police until I need them.

 

[jc456]

Vigalantes are not the answer. They are a answer, but not the best one.

The best answer is for politicians and the American people to start preaching "stop committing crimes" instead of "fuck the police". We need to start sticking up for real victims instead of sticking up for criminals. We need to go back to actually punishing criminals instead of calling them heroes.

Up until 2 years ago we had crime, we always had some, but nothing like today where we openly have roving gang of criminal thugs comitting crimes and breaking the law and no one does a thing about it and some even encourage them to do it.

We need conservatives in office now more than ever that will say "enough of this shit" and put their foot down.

Yeah the old school police had their rare issues but we need them back to keep order. Law enforcement should be feared by criminals.

well no one was a vigilante the night of Rosenbaum's attack on a kid helping the city. Maybe Rosenbaum was the vigilante since he was starting fires and causing chaos. But, the folks that were called in for security were called in for security much like a bank has security. Are banks now vigilantes?

 

[jc456]

This is not the wild west. Civil and criminal liability is a thing now.

why did the racist rioters burning and breaking up cars? What did a car ever do to them? Afraid to approach the real problem? Jacob Blake attempting to kidnap his own child? ahem, restraining order violation.