Democrats want families earning $500,000 to keep getting Obamacare subsidies!

[debbiedowner]

1. First, why shouldn’t I get the best care for a major life function? I did BEFORE Obamacare!

2. And second, “best” really should be “appropriate” care. Doctors not specializing in this function would not be qualified to do surgery.

3. You libs are crying and wailing that illegal aliens should get care, but you want AMERICANS to sacrifice care to give it to them?

4. I had a leftist neighbor who just what you did. She said that it’s worth it for me to give up the best care in order for other people to get ANY care.

But then when SHE needed a surgery for a very routine condition, she traveled out of state to a major medical hospital for it. When I told her that plenty of doctors could perform that surgery right here, she told me “I only want the best.”

So the libtard is OK with ME not getting the best care, but SHE demands it for herself. Typical hypocritical, selfish leftist.

Everyone is a lib if they tell you how it's covered under the law.

 

[Rawley]

"For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it,' the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice."

"lie of the year?" How about lie of the century.

 

[Lisa558]

Hold it. We were told premiums were going to double.

They’re not. What the libs are lying about is that SOME people’s monthly obligation may double once they have to pay for insurance themselves rather than get taxpayer money to cover it.

 

[Greenbeard]

Hold it. We were told premiums were going to double.

Never bet against Obamacare!

 

[Marener]

That’s what leftists do: when they can’t admit how harmful their policies are to many Americans, they yell “liar”!

This is what right wingers do. Lie.

It’s why you people love Trump and Vance so much. They tell the lies that you like to hear.

 

[Rawley]

They’re not. What the libs are lying about is that SOME people’s monthly obligation may double once they have to pay for insurance themselves rather than get taxpayer money to cover it.

I know, just mocking the talking points fed to them by their cult leaders that "premiums" are going to double.

 

[Lisa558]

This is what right wingers do. Lie.

It’s why you people love Trump and Vance so much. They tell the lies that you like to hear.

Like “Biden is fully functioning”?

 

[Lisa558]

I know, just mocking the talking points fed to them by their cult leaders that "premiums" are going to double.

I know you know. I’m explaining it for the dummy on this thread.

 

[Marener]

Like “Biden is fully functioning”?

Like saying the ACA had “death panels”.

Or more recently like saying the shut down is for healthcare for illegal aliens.

Or like saying Haitians are eating people’s pets. Vance even admitted that they’ll invent stories.

JD Vance admits he is willing to ‘create stories’ to get media attention

Republican vice-presidential candidate defends spreading false, racist claims demonizing Haitian immigrants

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lisa558]

Like saying the ACA had “death panels”.

Or more recently like saying the shut down is for healthcare for illegal aliens.

Or like saying Haitians are eating people’s pets. Vance even admitted that they’ll invent stories.

JD Vance admits he is willing to ‘create stories’ to get media attention

Republican vice-presidential candidate defends spreading false, racist claims demonizing Haitian immigrants

www.theguardian.com

Not comparable to the lie that you could keep your plan and keep your doctor, and still save money.

 

[Marener]

Not comparable to the lie that you could keep your plan and keep your doctor, and still save money.

The ACA had stipulations to grandfather existing plans. Didn’t you know that?

And you could always buy a non-conforming plan off the ACA marketplace.

 

[Rawley]

I know you know. I’m explaining it for the dummy on this thread.

The other thing I find hilarious in this shutdown is their abject refusal to acknowledge that it was their party that chose to sunset these temporary COVID subsidies in December and their party that eliminated the cap on income for the subsidies.

 

[Lisa558]

The ACA had stipulations to grandfather existing plans. Didn’t you know that?

LIE.

And you could always buy a non-conforming plan off the ACA marketplace.

NOPE. Obamacare wipes out the individual marketplace. Nothing similar to my pre-Obamacare plan was available.

It was all a BIG lie to get more Americans on government welfare. And costs skyrocketed.

 

[Lisa558]

The other thing I find hilarious in this shutdown is their abject refusal to acknowledge that it was their party that chose to sunset these temporary COVID subsidies in December and their party that eliminated the cap on income for the subsidies.

Shhhhh….. that’s supposed to be kept a secret from the voters.

 

[Greenbeard]

The ACA had stipulations to grandfather existing plans. Didn’t you know that?

Pretty sure she’s just making it up as she goes, so the grandfathering of plans will be news to her.

 

[Greenbeard]

The other thing I find hilarious in this shutdown is their abject refusal to acknowledge that it was their party that chose to sunset these temporary COVID subsidies in December and their party that eliminated the cap on income for the subsidies.

Make the subsidies permanent to own the libs!

 

[Marener]

LIE.

Marketplace Options for Grandfathered Health Insurance Plans

Learn if your coverage qualifies as a grandfathered health plan in the Health Insurance Marketplace®. Visit Healthcare.gov for your health insurance options

www.healthcare.gov

NOPE. Obamacare wipes out the individual marketplace. Nothing similar to my pre-Obamacare plan was available.

It was all a BIG lie to get more Americans on government welfare. And costs skyrocketed.

Yep. Plans can be offered that aren’t ACA compliant. It’s perfectly legal. You just don’t get any benefits or protections that the ACA grants.

Your plan wasn’t available because your insurer stopped offering it.

Health Plans That Don’t Comply with the ACA Put Consumers at Risk

Non-ACA-compliant health plans — short-term plans, association health plans, health care sharing ministries, fixed indemnity plans — are offered outside ACA marketplaces and may seem attractive because they are cheaper. But many leave people at risk of high medical bills because of hidden costs...

www.commonwealthfund.org

 

[Lisa558]

Pretty sure she’s just making it up as she goes, so the grandfathering of plans will be news to her.

They were “grandfathered” in name only: the requirements of Obamacare were so onerous that previous plans ceased to exist. We all got letters telling us our plan would not be available for the next year.

 

[Greenbeard]

They were “grandfathered” in name only: the requirements of Obamacare were so onerous that previous plans ceased to exist.

What requirements?

 

[Rawley]

Make the subsidies permanent to own the libs!

Nah. Not interested in owning them. Only interested in an honest debate.