Democrats want families earning $500,000 to keep getting Obamacare subsidies!

[Freedomisneverfree]

Democrats are cheap animals who want everything for free.

 

[Delldude]

What's she look like?

https://www.usmessageboard.com/thre...he-she-is-banned.1170021/page-5#post-37603655

 

[davebb]

https://www.usmessageboard.com/thre...he-she-is-banned.1170021/page-5#post-37603655

Oh yes, the nutjob who claims anyone disagreeing with him is half the forum. Ask him about all his sock puppets.

 

[schmidlap]

What lie? Be specific.

Specificity is what you lack when you claim, "You already got busted posting something that was fake."

 

[davebb]

Specificity is what you lack when you claim, "You already got busted posting something that was fake."

I was specific. I said your title is not in your link. Now, tell me my lie. Be specific.

 

[g5000]

Too bad the Dems would never allow it.

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Is this your excuse for why the Republicans and Trump have been totally stumped how to come up with something better than Obamacare for FIFTEEN YEARS?

The Republican plan for over FIFTY YEARS has been NOTHING.

So who is more stupid here? You or them?

Since Obamacare came into being and the Republicans promised to replace it, they have not been able to think of a better plan.

And you have kept falling for their hoax that they had one, when in fact they never had one, never intended to have one, and lied right to your face that they had one.

You MAGAs have to be the stupidest people to have ever lived.

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[schmidlap]

I was specific. I said your title is not in your link. Now, tell me my lie. Be specific.

What title is not in what link?

If you can't document your accusations, you shouldn't make them,

 

[schmidlap]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

The pressure is now on MAGAMike and his fellow Trump toadies to finally produce the ACA alternative the GOP has been promising since 2010.

This Trump official swears Republicans have a secret health care plan: ‘I don’t want to show our cards’​

Trump promised

‘INSURANCE FOR EVERYBODY’​

‘NO CUTS … TO MEDICAID’​

‘NO ONE WILL LOSE COVERAGE'​

‘NOBODY WILL BE WORSE OFF FINANCIALLY’​

‘EVERYBODY’S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF’​

About three quarters of the public continue to say Congress should extend the expiring tax credits, including more than nine in ten (94%) Democrats, three in four (76%) independents, and half of Republicans.​

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Projections indicate that between 3.5 million and 13.7 million people could lose their health insurance due to changes in legislation and the expiration of subsidies.

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[Delldude]

The pressure is now on MAGAMike and his fellow Trump toadies to finally produce the ACA alternative the GOP has been promising since 2010.

How about purchasing HC benefits on a national basis instead of state by state?

Competition and lower prices.

 

[schmidlap]

How about purchasing HC benefits on a national basis instead of state by state?

Competition and lower prices.

Is that one change that you expect TrumpCare to feature?

 

[Delldude]

Is that one change that you expect TrumpCare to feature?

Heard mention of it with Oz and others.

In discussions.

 

[schmidlap]

Heard mention of it with Oz and others.

In discussions.

Not much time before Americans lose coverage, but Trump has had many years to design his doozy of an ACA alternative.

A decade ago, Trump promised to replace Obamacare with something “terrific” within his first 100 days in office? In 2020, he brayed that he would unveil his health care plan within “two weeks”?

Baited breath for TrumpCare time again?

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[Delldude]

Not much time before Americans lose coverage, but Trump has had many years to design his doozy of an ACA alternative.

A decade ago, Trump promised to replace Obamacare with something “terrific” within his first 100 days in office? In 2020, he brayed that he would unveil his health care plan within “two weeks”?

Baited breath for TrumpCare time again?

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Would have, who was it who screwed over the people he represented with his vote?

 

[Lisa558]

Obama INTENDED to destroy the health insurance industry with his doomed-to-fail Obamacrap as an intermediary step in bringing about socialized medicine.

 

[schmidlap]

Would have, who was it who screwed over the people he represented with his vote?

You can blame whomever you need to.

TrumpCare is finally in the offing!

Thune favors post-shutdown healthcare deal with ‘bipartisan pedigree’​

 

[Delldude]

You can blame whomever you need to.

TrumpCare is finally in the offing!

Thune favors post-shutdown healthcare deal with ‘bipartisan pedigree’​

At the time there were GOP proposals that they attempted to offer, in the spirit of bipartisanship with the democrats, but they wanted nothing of the sort and plowed ahead with a plan they new would fail.

You have to realize Obamascare is proceeding as planned. It was supposed to create affordable care at lower rates ....that never happened. They new it wouldn't and they added taxpayer bailouts to the insurance industry in the original ACA plan. .... failure at signing. Then they played trick **** during the pandemic and raised the income eligibility ceiling to get more people on..... even promised a sunset provision that they knew they wouldn't support eliminating. With all that, knowing damn well HC premiums would increase just like most other consumer costs, now here we are with HC premiums increasing just like energy, food, etc.

You must realize any subsidies by the government are actually subsidies to the HC industry.

And now people are screaming for government intervention. That's the plan.....scream so loud you clowns will beg for government controlled single payer HC insurance.

Your hailed Trumpcare will most likely work.....

 

[schmidlap]

At the time there were GOP proposals that they attempted to offer, in the spirit of bipartisanship with the democrats, but they wanted nothing of the sort and plowed ahead with a plan they new would fail.

You have to realize Obamascare is proceeding as planned. It was supposed to create affordable care at lower rates ....that never happened. They new it wouldn't and they added taxpayer bailouts to the insurance industry in the original ACA plan. .... failure at signing. Then they played trick **** during the pandemic and raised the income eligibility ceiling to get more people on..... even promised a sunset provision that they knew they wouldn't support eliminating. With all that, knowing damn well HC premiums would increase just like most other consumer costs, now here we are with HC premiums increasing just like energy, food, etc.

You must realize any subsidies by the government are actually subsidies to the HC industry.

And now people are screaming for government intervention. That's the plan.....scream so loud you clowns will beg for government controlled single payer HC insurance.

Your hailed Trumpcare will most likely work.....

Nationalized RomneyCare that allowed millions of American families to finally acquire healthcare coverage became very popular, despite relentless Republican resistance, concerted neglect, and determination to sabotage it.
We saw this sorry act before, in 2017:

... From Trump’s perspective, the move was a fiasco. By dint of the threat to repeal it and take health insurance from millions of Americans, the ACA became more popular. The repeal effort exposed the hollowness of his grand promises to give everybody “terrific” insurance, and drove a midterm-election backlash that handed Democrats control of the House of Representatives.​

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Eight years on, Trump has plainly failed to learn his lesson.​

Now, we'll finally get to see their alternative - if they have one as they allege - and how the American people will react to whatever they concoct.

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[Delldude]

Nationalized RomneyCare that allowed millions of American families to finally acquire healthcare coverage became very popular, despite relentless Republican resistance, concerted neglect, and determination to sabotage it.
We saw this sorry act before, in 2017:

... From Trump’s perspective, the move was a fiasco. By dint of the threat to repeal it and take health insurance from millions of Americans, the ACA became more popular. The repeal effort exposed the hollowness of his grand promises to give everybody “terrific” insurance, and drove a midterm-election backlash that handed Democrats control of the House of Representatives.​

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Eight years on, Trump has plainly failed to learn his lesson.​

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Now, we'll finally get to see their alternative if they have one, as they allege, and how the American people will react to whatever they concoct.

It's more important to subsidize the HC insurance industry and let the stupid voters think their congressmen are actually doing something for them.

 

[Delldude]

Nationalized RomneyCare that allowed millions of American families to finally acquire healthcare coverage became very popular, despite relentless Republican resistance, concerted neglect, and determination to sabotage it.
We saw this sorry act before, in 2017:

... From Trump’s perspective, the move was a fiasco. By dint of the threat to repeal it and take health insurance from millions of Americans, the ACA became more popular. The repeal effort exposed the hollowness of his grand promises to give everybody “terrific” insurance, and drove a midterm-election backlash that handed Democrats control of the House of Representatives.​

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Eight years on, Trump has plainly failed to learn his lesson.​

Now, we'll finally get to see their alternative - if they have one as they allege - and how the American people will react to whatever they concoct.

What did he say?

 

[schmidlap]

It's more important to subsidize the HC insurance industry and let the stupid voters think their congressmen are actually doing something for them.

If you would rather cut out the private sector while covering everybody as Trump promised, there is nationalized healthcare.

What other for-profit industries is Trump targeting for a government take-over?