Democrats’ Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules

[Doc7505]

Democrats’ Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules​

Democrats' Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules

Tying the Jan. 6 ‘insurrection’ propaganda to the effort to convince Sens. Manchin and Sinema to end filibusters isn’t about democracy.

thefederalist.com

7 Jan 2022 ~~ By Jonathan S. Tobin
Have Democrats found the issue on which they can break what’s left of Senate traditions and parlay a 50-50 split into partisan domination? It’s far from clear that anything will be enough to move the two recalcitrant members of their caucus — Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., — to change their minds about voting to change the chamber’s rules that require a majority of 60 in order to invoke cloture and end filibusters. But if anything will do it, it might be the claim that passing their game-changing federal voting rights bill is the only way to defend American democracy against Republican insurrectionists.
~Snip~

Legislation Would Federalize Elections​

The “Freedom to Vote Act” would, in effect, federalize all elections. Along with turning Election Day into yet another national holiday, the act would impose early voting rules everywhere and allow voting by felons and attempts to influence those waiting to vote with gifts of food and water. It would make automatic voter registration, same-day registration, and online registration mandatory. It would also end partisan gerrymandering while still protecting often bizarrely shaped minority-majority districts that were created to ensure specific racial groups would dominate them.
Even more importantly, it would hamstring any efforts to ensure the integrity of the vote by preventing actions like the cleaning of voting rolls to ensure that people who have moved or died aren’t still registered. It would also ban widely popular voter ID rules, expand mail-in ballots, restrict efforts to ensure that their signatures are valid, and legalize vote harvesting. It would also impose new rules on campaign contributions in an attempt to override the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United v. FEC decision that protected political speech.
~Snip~
Some radical Democratic provocateurs are claiming that if they don’t get their way, Republicans will never allow another fair election. Although a Republican counterclaim along the same lines may sound like hyperbole, it would be closer to the truth to assert that ending the filibuster and passing the Democrats’ voting laws would be a genuine threat to the integrity of American democracy.
It may be that after the Democrats’ conspiracy-mongering about Russian collusion in 2016 and Trump’s “stop the steal” claims about 2020, neither side will ever fully accept any election loss in the future. But if Manchin and Sinema don’t stand their ground, the system will be changed in a manner that will make cynicism about rigged voting more a matter of common sense than tinfoil-hatted extremism.

Commentary:
Don’t be fooled by the bait. While everyone is watching the BBB bill die on the vine, Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dems will be hard at work changing rule by rule, law by law, in each state they can. Just as Marc Elais did his yeoman's work in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona to change voting rules violating State's Constitutions, claiming it was because of Wuhan Covid-19.
PMS/DSA Dem Commies found a way to steal a national election and they’re going try hard to use it in 2022 to steal a lot of the local ones to maintain their majority in the house and get a majority in the Senate.
The quandary remains, Will they succeed again in 2022?
We can surely expect that 2022 and 2024 will each be compounded further, especially since nothing from the 2020 election was fixed, changed or modified.

 

[daveman]

As it turns out, Democrats don't actually give a shit about democracy. They want one-party rule.

This is not at all up for debate.

 

[Montrovant]

I'm trying to figure out if the author thinks making Election Day a national holiday is a bad thing....

 

[JimofPennsylvan]

The Democrats are making a big push to pass their election reform bills using as a foil the Republicans recalcitrant line that the 2020 elections were stolen from them that Trump actually one and ordinary Americans fear that Republican state efforts on voting will suppress the vote! In reality the Democrat principle bill in this effort "The Freedom To Vote Act" goes way past these concerns it is a mammoth bill addressing an enormous number of subjects, the American public is not aware of a large amount of what is in this bill and frankly giving a fair evaluation this bill is an enormously bad bill and Democrat rank and file members of Congress who widely support this bill are a disgrace and reprehensible to the highest degree especially the many lawyers in this group who from their legal training know clearly how bad this bill is. Hereinafter this bill will be referred to as the FTV bill.

The FTV bill mandates that states when a person applies for a driver's license or changes their address for that license at the Department of Motor Vehicle (DMV) unless the applicant opts out, register that person to vote. Today, on DMV applications there is a mandate for joint applications meaning an additional application to register to vote but the applicant has to affirmatively request registration. This is a critically important difference good Americans and good citizens don't want non-American citizens voting in America's elections because they are not eligible and don't want even American citizens to be registered to vote in multiple locations because that invites fraud, that is multiple voting, and undermines public confidence in elections. The current system requires the applicant to attest they are a U.S. citizen and eligible to register to vote with notice that they can be criminally prosecuted if this attestation is a false statement; the FTV bill does not have these vital protections to stop voter registration fraud.

The FTV bill makes Election Day a public holiday this is not only wasteful, that is unnecessary, government spending because the Federal, State and local governments will have to pay public workers for that day but get no work from those workers on that day; but also, this is a cost burden Washington is putting on America's private sector as many private employers will then be forced to give this day off to workers as a paid day off. This doubly isn't justifiable because the FTV bill has mandatory early voting, two weeks of it, so really America doesn't have an election day it has a two week election period so why just select election day as a public holiday; America has survived roughly two-hundred and fifty years without making election day a public holiday there is no compelling reason(s) to change that public policy.

The FTV bill unfairly infringes on states' rights to stop fraud in voter registration. Section 1024 says that the state has to register someone to vote if they "substantially" fill out the registration form (now the Federal Government already limits what the state can require in the form). What the hell does substantially mean if the applicant fails to provide a middle initial is that okay how about failing to provide a date of birth is that okay?; legislators are supposed to be stewards of the law it really seems they aren't up to the task here adding ambiguity to it. The FTV bill in Section 1025 blocks states from requiring voter registration applicants to provide their entire social security number on the form again this is unfairly interfering in states' rights if states want to require applicants provide their full social security number so the respective state can readily and accurately find if the applicant is registered to vote at another address so they take steps to have the old registration purged to make their voter rolls accurate that is the states' business and also a good thing and the Federal government should not interfere!

The FTV bill tramples on states' rights in so far as Section 1028 requires states to allow voter registration applicants on the application form not only to select to vote by absentee ballot in the next election but to vote by absentee ballot indefinitely. There is something critically important here that the Democrats don't seem to get which is that many Americans and I would say that all Americans that hold fully good values on the issue believe is that widespread allowance of mail-in balloting where there is not a requirement of a compelling need shown for such form of voting invites and at least over the long-term will bring ballot harvesting where an individual or group of individuals pressure individual voters to fill out their mail-in ballot to the harvesters will thereby depriving that person of their civil right to vote their conscience free from any coercion. This is an utmost serious matter for good Americans because not only does it deprive these pressured voters of their fundamental right to vote but it also damages our democracy, our form of government where all the citizens of our nation decide collectively who and thus how we are governed as a nation because it gives undue, underserved and alarming power to those individuals carrying out the ballot harvesting. Democrat leadership and their allies need to get it that this ballot harvesting agenda they are trying to institute in American is something that metaphorically will bring war upon them, the anger and opposition they are unleashing with their corruption efforts here knows no bounds and if they continue they will come to regret it to an outstanding degree! Prudent states only allow voters to select to vote through an absentee or mail-in ballot for a compelling reason like serious health concerns that make it at least difficult to do in-person voting at a polling place; this Section 1028 will block this good state public policy.

The FTV bill with Section 306 mandates that states allow people with disabilities to vote by absentee ballot. I have no criticism for such policy it is good public policy I just have a criticism of how the provisions in the bill are written the bill should define the definition of disability to limit it to serious proven disabilities that unduly impair or impeded a person's ability to engage in in-person voting. People that can claim I have a bad knee or a bad back or ADHD or common ailments shouldn't automatically qualify under this provision. Qualification here should be limited to people that are classified as disabled by the Social Security Administration or have a disabled parking permit from the state or who have a doctor signed, with the Doctor's identification, note with the Doctor's medical opinion that the voter has a physical or mental impairment which makes it unduly difficult and/or impossible to engage in in-person voting! The FTV bill with Section 310 mandates early in-person voting specifically a two week early voting period and this is great public policy in fact Democrats should scrap this comprehensive effort and just put this mandate in a bill and pass it because early voting will block and negate Republican voter suppression efforts and it would probably get bipartisan support in Congress, high profile Republicans are on the record supporting early voting! The one glitch in the Democrats initiative here is the FTV bill's mandate that state election officials scan and process all early voting ballots prior to election day I think they should amend this mandate to one where state election officials are required to begin the scanning and processing of these early voting ballots the "day before" election day (with today's technology that should allow them to complete early ballot counting by the close of the polls on election day); the harm I see with the FTV mandate in its current form is that with the America media being so resourceful they will get the early voting results since they will exists before election day and be reporting such thereby practically suppressing voter turnout for the runner up candidates in early voting because their supporters will think there is no point in voting because my candidate lost the known vote count indicates this and such a system isn't a fair one.

The FTV bill through Section 1501 in expanding right to sue in federal court over election and voting improprieties from the Attorney General to any aggrieved party is very misguided and poor stewardship by Congress of the Judicial resources of the country. Federal Courts are already heavily burdened the system currently has the check of the Department of Justice determining if it is really worth it to bring a federal lawsuit over seeming voting wrong doing the country doesn't need angry citizens clogging up our federal court system with grievance lawsuits that don't have merit or are small issue where the angry citizen should be working through his or her elected officials to resolve the matter or going to state or local courts.

The FTV bill in Section 1608 Prohibiting States from Restricting Curbside voting indicates the Democrats are not traveling on the road of principles in this bill and that is completely unacceptable. Curbside voting is a facilitation of coercion in voting which deprives the victim voter of the fundamental right to vote; it poses the same principled problem of ballet harvesting. In curbside voting you will have the voter in the car where the car is brought up to the actual voting location and as the person fills out the ballot it will be observed by other occupants in the car which facilitates the scenario where voters are brought to the drive-up voting points for the purpose of the voting under the watchful eye of the ballot harvester or their agent in the vehicle observing the voter vote the way he or she is supposed to pursuant to the ballet harvester's will. This mandate in the FTV bill protecting curbside voting should be eliminated.

The FTV bill's section 1703 is an unfair infringement of State's rights this provision mandates that the state cannot deny the right to vote unless the person is serving a prison sentence for a felony conviction. States are on legitimate ground if they deny a person the right to vote if the person is convicted of a serious felony and are still serving the sentence for such a crime whether it be they are on parole or probation for that crime. The right to vote is a fundamental human right but it also confers an obligation on a person that they exercise that right in a good manner (meaning their voting decisions be in the realm of morally good ones) and when someone commits a serious crime against another person or property like murder, rape, arson and major drug dealing, et al they have demonstrated themselves to not have the trustworthy character to exercise that duty so society can take away the corresponding right. When the sentence is over, the person paid their debt to society so no longer should be burdened by their past actions so the voting right deprivation should be lifted.

(To be continued!)

 

[kyzr]

Relax, Joe Manchin said he's not going to kill the filibuster, so the dems' can't pass anything since they'd need 60 votes in the Senate..

 

[JusticeHammer]

I'm trying to figure out if the author thinks making Election Day a national holiday is a bad thing....

Yes it is.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

It should be renamed Death to America's Democracy bill.
It would create a one party country.
The Corrupt Democrats would loot our country into bankruptcy.

 

[IM2]

The OP must be blind to what republicans are trying to do.

And why is making election day a federal holiday a bad thing?

 

[kyzr]

1. The US Constitution gives states the responsibility to run elections, period.
2. The democrats do not have 60 votes for any election reform, and they don't have 50 votes to end the filibuster, so democrats are what we call "Lame Ducks". The GOP will take over Congress in November, so that as they say is that...

 

[busybee01]

Democrats’ Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules​

Democrats' Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules

Tying the Jan. 6 ‘insurrection’ propaganda to the effort to convince Sens. Manchin and Sinema to end filibusters isn’t about democracy.

thefederalist.com

7 Jan 2022 ~~ By Jonathan S. Tobin
Have Democrats found the issue on which they can break what’s left of Senate traditions and parlay a 50-50 split into partisan domination? It’s far from clear that anything will be enough to move the two recalcitrant members of their caucus — Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., — to change their minds about voting to change the chamber’s rules that require a majority of 60 in order to invoke cloture and end filibusters. But if anything will do it, it might be the claim that passing their game-changing federal voting rights bill is the only way to defend American democracy against Republican insurrectionists.
~Snip~

Legislation Would Federalize Elections​

The “Freedom to Vote Act” would, in effect, federalize all elections. Along with turning Election Day into yet another national holiday, the act would impose early voting rules everywhere and allow voting by felons and attempts to influence those waiting to vote with gifts of food and water. It would make automatic voter registration, same-day registration, and online registration mandatory. It would also end partisan gerrymandering while still protecting often bizarrely shaped minority-majority districts that were created to ensure specific racial groups would dominate them.
Even more importantly, it would hamstring any efforts to ensure the integrity of the vote by preventing actions like the cleaning of voting rolls to ensure that people who have moved or died aren’t still registered. It would also ban widely popular voter ID rules, expand mail-in ballots, restrict efforts to ensure that their signatures are valid, and legalize vote harvesting. It would also impose new rules on campaign contributions in an attempt to override the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United v. FEC decision that protected political speech.
~Snip~
Some radical Democratic provocateurs are claiming that if they don’t get their way, Republicans will never allow another fair election. Although a Republican counterclaim along the same lines may sound like hyperbole, it would be closer to the truth to assert that ending the filibuster and passing the Democrats’ voting laws would be a genuine threat to the integrity of American democracy.
It may be that after the Democrats’ conspiracy-mongering about Russian collusion in 2016 and Trump’s “stop the steal” claims about 2020, neither side will ever fully accept any election loss in the future. But if Manchin and Sinema don’t stand their ground, the system will be changed in a manner that will make cynicism about rigged voting more a matter of common sense than tinfoil-hatted extremism.

Commentary:
Don’t be fooled by the bait. While everyone is watching the BBB bill die on the vine, Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dems will be hard at work changing rule by rule, law by law, in each state they can. Just as Marc Elais did his yeoman's work in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona to change voting rules violating State's Constitutions, claiming it was because of Wuhan Covid-19.
PMS/DSA Dem Commies found a way to steal a national election and they’re going try hard to use it in 2022 to steal a lot of the local ones to maintain their majority in the house and get a majority in the Senate.
The quandary remains, Will they succeed again in 2022?
We can surely expect that 2022 and 2024 will each be compounded further, especially since nothing from the 2020 election was fixed, changed or modified.

The author is full of crap. The Constitution allows the Congress to regulate federal elections. The reason for this is simple. The founding fathers knew that state legislatures could abuse their duty of regulating elections so they placed this check in the Constitution.

Worth noting that voters in Florida overwhelmingly supported the right of felons to vote. There is nothing wrong with early voting. Montana is a Republicxan state and allows water and food to be distributed at polling places. The only prohibition is that it cannot be distributed by a member of a campaign, a candidate or a relative of a candidate. There is nothing wrong with automatic or same day voter registration. 122 of 226 countries and territories have compulsary voter registration. This is common sense.

It would not ban voter id. It would allow a voter to sign a affadavit stating the voter is who he is. Many states that includes Republican states do this already. It would not ban voter integrity laws. It would ban attempts to use voter integrity as a way of making it hard to vote. One county in Georgia tried to purge the voter rolls before the Senate run-offs.

The filibuster was meant to be used to force compromise not to block legislation. I suspect if Republicans were to gain control of the House and Senate, they would end the filibuster. They would attempt to pass legislation to make it harder for citizens to vote.

You are full of bullshit as well. No state Constitutions were violated in any state. You of course are a liar. The Russians supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. No elections were stolen in 2020. It is Republicans who are trying to steal elections in 2022 and 2024. They know that is the only way they can win. Since there was nothing wrong in 2020, there is nothing to fix in 2022.

 

[busybee01]

Yes it is.

No it is not.

 

[Doc7505]

The OP must be blind to what republicans are trying to do.

And why is making election day a federal holiday a bad thing?

If Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dem Commies are allowed to pass HR-1 America will never have free elections again.

 

[daveman]

If Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dem Commies are allowed to pass HR-1 America will never have free elections again.

And that is exactly their goal.

 

[busybee01]

If Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dem Commies are allowed to pass HR-1 America will never have free elections again.

If it is not passed we will never have free elections. You Nazi pigs are the ones attacking the right to vote.

 

[busybee01]

It should be renamed Death to America's Democracy bill.
It would create a one party country.
The Corrupt Democrats would loot our country into bankruptcy.

That is what you are trying to do. You are the ones attacking our democracy and establishing a dictatorship. You are the Nazis trying to establish one party rule. You are the ones who would bankrupt our country with tax cuts to the rich.

 

[daveman]

That is what you are trying to do. You are the ones attacking our democracy and establishing a dictatorship. You are the Nazis trying to establish one party rule. You are the ones who would bankrupt our country with tax cuts to the rich.

 

[Rogue AI]

Voting is a right, so is not voting. The government is placing undue burden on the citizen in compulsory registration and mailing absentee ballots to anyone who does not request one. When it comes to enumerated rights application of one should be equal if applied to another. Imagine what folks would say if the government sent every registered voter a gun.

 

[JusticeHammer]

If it is not passed we will never have free elections. You Nazi pigs are the ones attacking the right to vote.

You commie whores want non citizens to vote.

 

[kyzr]

That is what you are trying to do. You are the ones attacking our democracy and establishing a dictatorship. You are the Nazis trying to establish one party rule. You are the ones who would bankrupt our country with tax cuts to the rich.

Calling Godwin's Law. You lose.

 

[Resnic]

Democrats’ Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules​

Democrats' Top Priority Before Fall Elections Is Rigging U.S. Voting Rules

Tying the Jan. 6 ‘insurrection’ propaganda to the effort to convince Sens. Manchin and Sinema to end filibusters isn’t about democracy.

thefederalist.com

7 Jan 2022 ~~ By Jonathan S. Tobin
Have Democrats found the issue on which they can break what’s left of Senate traditions and parlay a 50-50 split into partisan domination? It’s far from clear that anything will be enough to move the two recalcitrant members of their caucus — Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., — to change their minds about voting to change the chamber’s rules that require a majority of 60 in order to invoke cloture and end filibusters. But if anything will do it, it might be the claim that passing their game-changing federal voting rights bill is the only way to defend American democracy against Republican insurrectionists.
~Snip~

Legislation Would Federalize Elections​

The “Freedom to Vote Act” would, in effect, federalize all elections. Along with turning Election Day into yet another national holiday, the act would impose early voting rules everywhere and allow voting by felons and attempts to influence those waiting to vote with gifts of food and water. It would make automatic voter registration, same-day registration, and online registration mandatory. It would also end partisan gerrymandering while still protecting often bizarrely shaped minority-majority districts that were created to ensure specific racial groups would dominate them.
Even more importantly, it would hamstring any efforts to ensure the integrity of the vote by preventing actions like the cleaning of voting rolls to ensure that people who have moved or died aren’t still registered. It would also ban widely popular voter ID rules, expand mail-in ballots, restrict efforts to ensure that their signatures are valid, and legalize vote harvesting. It would also impose new rules on campaign contributions in an attempt to override the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United v. FEC decision that protected political speech.
~Snip~
Some radical Democratic provocateurs are claiming that if they don’t get their way, Republicans will never allow another fair election. Although a Republican counterclaim along the same lines may sound like hyperbole, it would be closer to the truth to assert that ending the filibuster and passing the Democrats’ voting laws would be a genuine threat to the integrity of American democracy.
It may be that after the Democrats’ conspiracy-mongering about Russian collusion in 2016 and Trump’s “stop the steal” claims about 2020, neither side will ever fully accept any election loss in the future. But if Manchin and Sinema don’t stand their ground, the system will be changed in a manner that will make cynicism about rigged voting more a matter of common sense than tinfoil-hatted extremism.

Commentary:
Don’t be fooled by the bait. While everyone is watching the BBB bill die on the vine, Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Dems will be hard at work changing rule by rule, law by law, in each state they can. Just as Marc Elais did his yeoman's work in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona to change voting rules violating State's Constitutions, claiming it was because of Wuhan Covid-19.
PMS/DSA Dem Commies found a way to steal a national election and they’re going try hard to use it in 2022 to steal a lot of the local ones to maintain their majority in the house and get a majority in the Senate.
The quandary remains, Will they succeed again in 2022?
We can surely expect that 2022 and 2024 will each be compounded further, especially since nothing from the 2020 election was fixed, changed or modified.

Well they have 2 priorities.

1 is rigging the rules as you pointed out.

2 is stacking the deck. They get everyone focused on covid, racism and Jan 6th while they sneak in illegals and give them voting rights.