please prove it was a stolen election.
can you provide some facts to prove that claim?
Dear TM:
I would say it is about the same as the equivalent
arguments that Bush stole the election.
We may not be able to prove either one,
but starting with Clinton's presidency,
I have seen plenty of proof that each President
did NOT represent the full public, but pushed
partisan agenda that did NOT represent the consent of taxpayers
and were not properly checked for abuses.
I believe this trend of pushing partisan agenda and favoritism
would end by holding BOTH major parties accountable for
paying back the public and funding costs of their party-line agenda
that should not be imposed on the public except by consent of all people.
Just like how religion has no place in federal govt and policy,
so should both parties be treated as "political religions" where
their members should be responsible for funding their own biases in their beliefs,
and not impose this on dissenters by abusing majority rule and government offices.
Both sides are equally guilty of this.
You just have to interview people, to see how
Bush did not represent all taxpayers forced to pay for military actions they protested and "don't believe in,"
and Obama does not represent all taxpayers forced to pay mandates they protest and "don't believe in."
When people tell me they don't believe in and aren't represented by these policies pushed by govt,
by majority rule based on partisan and political force,
that's enough proof of "taxation without representation" and
"involuntary servitude" where the labor/tax dollars are mandated by law
under conditions the working citizens DID NOT AGREE to in their names.
That is abuse of govt power and position, their protests are enough proof for me.
It is politically fraudulent to claim to enforce a Constitutional contract
protecting people "equally under law" "without discrimination by creed,"
when in reality only the people whose "party gets the majority votes"
have their interests represented in policy while the dissenters' beliefs are excluded.
So they take turns getting represented while the other gets denied,
because we keep using "majority rule" to decide policy at the expense of
the dissenting side (instead of addressing and resolving ALL conflicts and objections
from ALL sides, so EVERYONE'S views are equally included and represented, as our laws call for).
I truly hope this is nearing the end of this stage or cycle of political development,
and more people figure out we need to solve problems together
instead of taking turns bullying down each other to compete for control.
When people do this in a moving car, fighting over the steering wheel,
it is considered reckless driving. What ever happened to agreeing in
advance what the plan is, what map or direction we agree to go,
and THEN writing and enforcing legislation that represents public agreement.
Wouldn't that end any need to outvote the other side,
and arguing over who cheated or who stole which election?
if all elected officials, and all people inside or outside govt,
still had to reach AGREEMENT on policies in order to consider those laws.
Wouldn't that compel and reward people in working together on solutions that satisfy and include everyone,
instead of encouraging and rewarding bullying and manipulative behavior to try to win at all expense?
When is this game over? When will we get tired of these losing battles and look for ways we can all win instead?
Again I hope this is at the end.
So sick of this Bush/Obama blame game.
Please let us get past this, and go on to the next stage in reforming government to be
more effective, sustainable and inclusive of all people and parties of all views.
America needs to grow up, get our act together, and knock it off with
the childish games of trying to get the parents to take our side
so we can get our way. When all the kids do the same thing,
it tears the household apart, and that's what we are seeing now.
Just destroying our relations and economy, and think we are right and deserved to be
rewarded with victory while the other side should suffer punishment and loss. And they think the same of us.
Round and round, back and forth. How long can this go on?