Democrats reopen old health care wounds with $3.5T mega-bill on the line, as Schumer rejects Manchin's 'strategic pause' on the $3.5T megabill

[basquebromance]

i have confidence in Schumer...it will all work out!

Democrats reopen old health care wounds with $3.5T mega-bill on the line

As a critical Thursday markup looms for the party's social spending plan, it's locked in a familiar split.

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Schumer rejects Manchin’s ‘strategic pause’ on $3.5T bill

The majority leader enjoys a close relationship with his most vocal centrist, and Democrats are not yet alarmed about their internal whip count.

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excerpts:

The party's growing problem is twofold: On one hand, the White House and Senate are keeping their distance from the House's proposal to divvy up hundreds of billions of dollars between a progressive push for a massive expansion of Medicare benefits and a leadership-driven quest to permanently strengthen Obamacare. On the other, progressives who got a lot of what they wanted in draft legislation the House Ways and Means Committee released Tuesday night are still unhappy with colleagues who would rather use the party's health care dollars on making expanded subsidies for Affordable Care Act coverage permanent.


The speed with which Democrats' health care drama leaked from behind closed doors underscores just how bumpy the ride will be as they attempt, in just a few weeks, to muscle through the most expansive shakeup of the social safety net in decades.

And the angst on the left is more complicated than the typical progressives-versus-moderates dynamic — it's the latest chapter in a long-running debate between those who want to focus on shoring up Obamacare and those who want to move toward a "Medicare for All"-style model. As both factions battle, the bulk of President Joe Biden's domestic agenda is hanging in the balance.

“I’m not going to be quietly sitting on the sidelines and watching all the people eligible for Medicare treated royally and the people who depend on Medicaid be neglected,” House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said, noting he’s made Biden aware of his preference for solidifying an Obamacare Medicaid expansion aimed at low-income Americans, including minority communities in red states like his. “I’ll stand up to anybody with that position. I don’t care who it is.”

"We need to be 100 percent for universal health care, and we are so far from that today," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), the Progressive Caucus chief who is pushing for Medicare to cover more people with more generous benefits. "We need to recognize that while the ACA did many good things, just providing subsidies to private insurance is not the way to move forward."

“I’m not going to pick among my children,” said Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), referencing the different Democratic health components of the social spending bill. “But we need to keep the ACA subsidies — that’s what is enabling millions of people to get health care coverage.”

 

[kyzr]

Medicaid is charity for the low-lifes who can't work and pay for healthcare. Medicaid needs to be cut.
Medicare was paid for by seniors and is owed to them. Medicare needs to be fully funded ASAP, so does SS.
Clyborn is a moron who thinks people who actually pay for healthcare should get priority.

 

[basquebromance]

we don't need to cut Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, we need to expand Medicare Medicaid and Social Security

 

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more from the article:

Schumer conceded on Wednesday that moderate Democratic senators like Manchin and Sinema don’t see eye-to-eye with progressives like Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts. Sanders sought as much as $6 trillion in spending and indicated on Wednesday he would not climb down any further: “That $3.5 trillion is already the result of a major, major compromise.”

“I’m very much aware of the competing priorities here, and they’re all meritorious,” Rep Lloyd Doggett said. “But there’s clearly not enough revenue to do all that needs to be done."

 

[22lcidw]

we don't need to cut Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, we need to expand Medicare Medicaid and Social Security

Increase the tax from 15% to 20% then. The collectors were 150 paying in to 1 collecting when started. In 1950 it was 15 to 1. Now it is near 3 to 1. The original tax was miniscule. Today it is 15% with employer contributions that is the employees money added with Medicare. The money collected is put into the general fund to pay for everything else and the government gives IOU's certificates to promise to pay back.

 

[MarcATL]

Manchin and his corporate bribes can go stuff it!

 

[BluesLegend]

Manchin and his corporate bribes can go stuff it!

Hey we are happy to welcome him into the GOP and take away your tie+Harris faux majority.

 

[MarcATL]

Hey we are happy to welcome him into the GOP and take away your tie+Harris faux majority.

I know you are.

 

[BluesLegend]

I know you are.

It grates on the left that the rest of the country has a say in things.

 

[basquebromance]

Democrats are doomed by their lack of political will

 

[MarcATL]

It grates on the left that the rest of the country has a say in things.

What are you talking about?

 

[Grumblenuts]

"We need to be 100 percent for universal health care, and we are so far from that today," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), the Progressive Caucus chief who is pushing for Medicare to cover more people with more generous benefits. "We need to recognize that while the ACA did many good things, just providing subsidies to private insurance is not the way to move forward."

Burning the money would be far more productive than further subsidizing the private "insurance" cabal. To "be 100 percent for universal health care" requires doing the opposite. Starving the bastards to death is the only way.

 

[MarcATL]

Democrats are doomed by their lack of political will

Basically.