after Mitch's pressure, Manchin rejects climate, tax elements of party-line Dem bill, leaves a slim health-care focused bill as only option for Dems

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Manchin will not support climate spending in reconciliation package...tough! one Dem called Manchin a 1-man wrecking ball


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Joe Manchin on Thursday rejected Senate Democrats’ proposed energy and climate investments, as well as their goals of increasing taxes on the wealthy and large corporations, according to a Democrat briefed on the discussions.

Instead the West Virginia senator said “unequivocally” during a meeting with Majority Leader Chuck Schumer that he will only support reducing drug prices and a two-year extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies as components of a party-line bill designed to evade a filibuster, the person said

Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin, indicated the West Virginian has little concern for how his rejection might affect his party’s overall political prospects, should Democrats ultimately fail to accept the narrow terms he’s outlined.

“Political headlines are of no value to the millions of Americans struggling to afford groceries and gas,” said Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin. “Sen. Manchin believes it’s time for leaders to put political agendas aside, reevaluate and adjust to the economic realities the country faces to avoid taking steps that add fuel to the inflation fire.”

Schumer and Manchin had focused recent discussions on a H.R. 5376 (117) spending as much as $500 billion, mostly on climate and energy, while raising $1 trillion in new revenues from prescription drug reform and tax increases. Manchin himself first proposed keeping the bill focused on those areas four months ago, after rejecting a broader piece of legislation.

“All of our efforts should be: How do we reduce the gas prices, the high prices of energy, the high prices of food, all of these things: that’s every day living. And everyone’s talking about everything except though things,” Manchin said in an interview earlier this week. “Unless you can get your financial house in order, you’re not going to get inflation under control.”


Manchin’s Thursday rejection of Schumer’s offers, first reported by the Washington Post, sparked deep frustrations from progressives, particularly those who saw Democrats’ control of Congress and the White House as a long-sought opportunity to rein in carbon emissions.


Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) said Manchin’s move was “obviously hugely disappointing.

“It’s important that every young person, every activist, the majorities of this country who are demanding climate action understand very clearly this is not the Democrats,” Huffman added in an interview. “This is one man named Joe Manchin. When it comes to the most important existential issue of our time, this man is a wrecking ball.”
 
Manchin will not support climate spending in reconciliation package...tough! one Dem called Manchin a 1-man wrecking ball


excerpts:

Joe Manchin on Thursday rejected Senate Democrats’ proposed energy and climate investments, as well as their goals of increasing taxes on the wealthy and large corporations, according to a Democrat briefed on the discussions.

Instead the West Virginia senator said “unequivocally” during a meeting with Majority Leader Chuck Schumer that he will only support reducing drug prices and a two-year extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies as components of a party-line bill designed to evade a filibuster, the person said

Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin, indicated the West Virginian has little concern for how his rejection might affect his party’s overall political prospects, should Democrats ultimately fail to accept the narrow terms he’s outlined.

“Political headlines are of no value to the millions of Americans struggling to afford groceries and gas,” said Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin. “Sen. Manchin believes it’s time for leaders to put political agendas aside, reevaluate and adjust to the economic realities the country faces to avoid taking steps that add fuel to the inflation fire.”

Schumer and Manchin had focused recent discussions on a H.R. 5376 (117) spending as much as $500 billion, mostly on climate and energy, while raising $1 trillion in new revenues from prescription drug reform and tax increases. Manchin himself first proposed keeping the bill focused on those areas four months ago, after rejecting a broader piece of legislation.

“All of our efforts should be: How do we reduce the gas prices, the high prices of energy, the high prices of food, all of these things: that’s every day living. And everyone’s talking about everything except though things,” Manchin said in an interview earlier this week. “Unless you can get your financial house in order, you’re not going to get inflation under control.”


Manchin’s Thursday rejection of Schumer’s offers, first reported by the Washington Post, sparked deep frustrations from progressives, particularly those who saw Democrats’ control of Congress and the White House as a long-sought opportunity to rein in carbon emissions.


Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) said Manchin’s move was “obviously hugely disappointing.

“It’s important that every young person, every activist, the majorities of this country who are demanding climate action understand very clearly this is not the Democrats,” Huffman added in an interview. “This is one man named Joe Manchin. When it comes to the most important existential issue of our time, this man is a wrecking ball.”

Manchin is from coal country. Expecting him to do anything for climate is a non-starter. He, however, is not a "wrecking ball". He gets one vote just like every other Senator. If so much hinges on him, it is because the others are unwilling to take a moderate path.
 
Manchin is from coal country. Expecting him to do anything for climate is a non-starter. He, however, is not a "wrecking ball". He gets one vote just like every other Senator. If so much hinges on him, it is because the others are unwilling to take a moderate path.
He managed to be elected as a Democrat in a state that went for Trump, LARGE. I thank God for Manchin and Sinema. But for their willingness to stand against the Progressive insanity of this 2 year cycle, America would be slipping toward violent dissolution.

It was a great fear of mine that they'd cave on the filibuster and the thugs in DC would finish their coup and dare the Right to refuse to obey. The day one party can control HOW elections are executed will be the day America falls into tyranny and potential civil war and the fools in DC seem to believe they can pull that off without serious negative consequences.
 
Can anyone honestly say Biden's admin wants lower oil prices? We have energy costs up over 40% for the year already!

I admit, I'm not sure what the inflation concern is with increasing taxes on those making over 400k using pass throughs. But Manchin has not walked away from lower medicare prescription costs.

Imo Biden is simply mentally unable to control his appointees, and Klain is incompetent. If anyone has a reason to think the admin's goal is to increase oil production, I'd love some evidence.
 
Manchin will not support climate spending in reconciliation package...tough! one Dem called Manchin a 1-man wrecking ball


excerpts:

Joe Manchin on Thursday rejected Senate Democrats’ proposed energy and climate investments, as well as their goals of increasing taxes on the wealthy and large corporations, according to a Democrat briefed on the discussions.

Instead the West Virginia senator said “unequivocally” during a meeting with Majority Leader Chuck Schumer that he will only support reducing drug prices and a two-year extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies as components of a party-line bill designed to evade a filibuster, the person said

Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin, indicated the West Virginian has little concern for how his rejection might affect his party’s overall political prospects, should Democrats ultimately fail to accept the narrow terms he’s outlined.

“Political headlines are of no value to the millions of Americans struggling to afford groceries and gas,” said Sam Runyon, a spokesperson for Manchin. “Sen. Manchin believes it’s time for leaders to put political agendas aside, reevaluate and adjust to the economic realities the country faces to avoid taking steps that add fuel to the inflation fire.”

Schumer and Manchin had focused recent discussions on a H.R. 5376 (117) spending as much as $500 billion, mostly on climate and energy, while raising $1 trillion in new revenues from prescription drug reform and tax increases. Manchin himself first proposed keeping the bill focused on those areas four months ago, after rejecting a broader piece of legislation.

“All of our efforts should be: How do we reduce the gas prices, the high prices of energy, the high prices of food, all of these things: that’s every day living. And everyone’s talking about everything except though things,” Manchin said in an interview earlier this week. “Unless you can get your financial house in order, you’re not going to get inflation under control.”


Manchin’s Thursday rejection of Schumer’s offers, first reported by the Washington Post, sparked deep frustrations from progressives, particularly those who saw Democrats’ control of Congress and the White House as a long-sought opportunity to rein in carbon emissions.


Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) said Manchin’s move was “obviously hugely disappointing.

“It’s important that every young person, every activist, the majorities of this country who are demanding climate action understand very clearly this is not the Democrats,” Huffman added in an interview. “This is one man named Joe Manchin. When it comes to the most important existential issue of our time, this man is a wrecking ball.”
I missed the part about Mitch's pressure. Could you highlight that please?
 
I missed the part about Mitch's pressure. Could you highlight that please?
McConnell said he'd block passing the bipartisan semiconductor bill if the dems pushed this through with reconcilliation

BUT he also said the Dems had a fix because the Senate had actually already passed a version of the bill and sent it to the House (where it appears to permanently be hung up with Speaker Jaypal for God knows why, because neither the industry nor WH seems to know) SO assuming the Dem House can pass ANYTHING, they could just pass the senate's bill and avoid having to get another vote in the senate.
 
This thread did not age well.


(CNN)Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin on Wednesday announced a deal on an energy and health care bill, representing a breakthrough after more than a year of negotiations that have collapsed time and again.
But it will face furious GOP opposition.
The deal is a major reversal for Manchin, and the health and climate bill stands a serious chance of becoming law as soon as August -- assuming Democrats can pass the bill in the House and that it passes muster with the Senate parliamentarian to allow it to be approved along straight party lines in the budget process.
While Manchin scuttled President Joe Biden's Build Back Better bill, the final deal includes a number of provisions the moderate from West Virginia had privately scoffed at, representing a significant reversal from earlier this month. That includes provisions addressing the climate crisis.
 

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