Democrats praying for retaliation.

[Frankeneinstein]

You really think there’s going to be normal traffic? Any stoppage will be felt for months.

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That’s what happens when you allow a petulant man-child have that kind of power.

[^THIS^ is the real gripe isn't it?]
actually, it's what happens when election quota qualification is based on genitalia and reach's party level that then allow the unqualified to run against a "petulant man child"...ya end up right where we are now...this was all avoidable

 

[badbob85037]

Original opinion of the OP. No link required.

And this is my opinion. Democrats perspective has become so warped... (and maybe Republicans too when Democrats hold the reigns of power, but today we're talking about today's events)... that they sincerely hope that Iran retaliates in a meaningful way only for the purpose of sullying President Trump decision to destroy Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Maybe not all of them, but a significant number. Once again they hang their hopes on outcomes that are detrimental to Americans... just like President Trump's expansion of tariffs to level the playing field, Democrats couldn't wait to take the side of China. When President Trump pursued a doctrine of deporting Illegal Aliens, the Democrats jumped at the opportunity to take the side of foreign nationals.

In my opinion, what's good for Democrats of late is bad for America. Democrats need to get their party back on the rails for the good of the country.

If they burn our streets and loot our stores, does it surprise anyone that they wouldn't side with Iran and even Hitler over Trump?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Whose need is greater? Theirs to sell it or the world to buy it?

Any ideas when this all starts?

 

[Independent thinker]

What makes you think that, since you say you have nothing in the way of a link to support that?

Awww, come on, is water wet?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Keeping the strait open won’t be that easy and tankers won’t be going 5hrough, if there’s military action going on.

Now that's true, but the oil deliveries will be slowed down at worst, not lost.

 

[Rawley]

They have oil.

Which they ship though the straight

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why is it that when Trump does something somehow it's about Democrats (hoping) something.

Let me tell you. You guys elected him. Most of you boasting he was the one that wanted peace, the one that didn't start wars. Now he has attacked a nation, as far as I can tell without a provocation from them at least towards America.

And here you are. Instead of acknowledging that fact, you attack some hypothetical Democratic reaction. I suspect because you know this will have consequences... adverse consequences for American interests.

Those consequences won't be there because Democrats wished them to happen. They will be there because choices Trump and through your vote you caused. So live with them instead of calling out people who don't agree with his (and your) choices.

Iran may "strike back" by killing some innocent American civilians, likely through proxies, and certainly not by sending Iranian uniformed soldiers. But Iran has been murdering innocent Americans personally or through proxies for fifty years.

No the wishful thinking of Democrats and "not Democrats" will not bring about Iran's next acts of terror. But, it does appear that the Democrats will be glad at the next Iranian murder, be it today, tomorrow, or a decade from now. They will blame it on Trump (never on the murderers), and be gleeful.

It's a bad look that will not serve your Party well in 2026 or 2028.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Democrats are hoping for something catastrophic with a huge loss of American lives - just so they can blame Trump.

 

[leftwinger]

 

[forkup]

Democrats are hoping for something catastrophic with a huge loss of American lives - just so they can blame Trump.

Again, a better question would be why Trump isn't responsible if something horrible happens.

Why do you guys insist on fighting this mythical Democrat.

Trump has done something undoubtedly risky. It's that simple. Something that could have terrible consequences. It might be a good choice even so. But every time someone like or the OP say something like this what I'm hearing is NOT TRUMP'S FAULT if something happens.

Why is it that all Democrats have to take responsibility for anything any Democrat has ever done or even will do. But Trump is not responsible for the actions he takes himself mostly against advice of others?

 

[Missourian]

The OP was "I hate and wish democrats were dead, therefore I think democrats are hoping the war goes south.". It was supported with nothing other than unbridled hate and venom.

Translation: "How the **** am I going to root for Iran after everyone read this thread?!?

I know! I'll just build this stupid strawman instead. "

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why do you guys insist on fighting this mythical Democrat.

There's nothing mythical about Democrats standing on the bodies and bathing in the blood of innocents as a means to push their agenda -- happens every time someone shoots up a school.

 

[forkup]

There's nothing mythical about Democrats standing on the bodies and bathing in the blood of innocents as a means to push their agenda -- happens every time someone shoots up a school.

Not answering my point at all. So I'll ask again. Why are you guys insisting that Democrats reaction is important and the consequences of Trump's actions aren't?

As for shootings. School shootings aren't some inevitable thing. They are a direct consequence of the relationship the US has with guns. It promotes not just the owning of guns but resists any attempt to insert responsible gun ownership. That's not some vague thing that's a fact. Something that comes to the foreground everytime a tragedy happens. So it's basically the same question. Why is it some unjust thing when the consequences of choices that cause harm are mentioned? Why aren't you upset and want to prevent the tragedy instead of blaming the messenger?


I'll tell you why. Because you know what you believe in causes harm. And it's human to try to blame those that say so instead of taking responsibility for yourself. Just like it's easier for a guy who beats the hell out of his wife to blame the wife for provoking him.. It's abdication of responsibility.

 

[hadit]

Iran doesn’t need nukes. All they have to do is close the Strait of Hormuz. Imagine missiles attacking oil tankers, instead of Haifa.

They could physically do that, but it would result in more of the world turning against them.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not answering my point at all

But I did - the Democrat I described is not mythical.

As for shootings. School shootings aren't some inevitable thing....

Fact remains - when one happens, Democrats happily use the blood of innocents to push their agenda.
Same thing will happen if/when Iran retaliates.
No difference.

 

[hadit]

Not answering my point at all. So I'll ask again. Why are you guys insisting that Democrats reaction is important and the consequences of Trump's actions aren't?

Because democrats will one day in the future own the levers of power again, and it's illuminating to see what they say and do now. We must also remember that TRUMP! consumed far more attention from the talking heads for 4 years when he was out of office than did the guy with the actual power and responsibility.

As for shootings. School shootings aren't some inevitable thing. They are a direct consequence of the relationship the US has with guns. It promotes not just the owning of guns but resists any attempt to insert responsible gun ownership. That's not some vague thing that's a fact. Something that comes to the foreground everytime a tragedy happens. So it's basically the same question. Why is it some unjust thing when the consequences of choices that cause harm are mentioned? Why aren't you upset and want to prevent the tragedy instead of blaming the messenger?

That is demonstrably false. It is within living memory that students could bring a gun to school, leave it in their truck or car and hunt on the way home. No one shot up a school. It is within living memory that students could take shooting courses in school with live ammunition. No one shot up a school. It is within living memory that you could order a firearm and ammunition out of a catalog and have it shipped through the mail to your home with no background checks, no licenses or anything of the sort. No one shot up a school.

What changed? Not guns.

 

[OldFlame]

Yeah, but you haven't completely lost the plot. You have a touch of TDS, but I'm hopeful you'll get over it in time.

There are a few for folks on our little site here I put in that category.

But so many have so much sunk cost in hating Trump, their critical thinking has completely evaporated.

Oh, he's one of them, never doubt it. He talks about right wing nuts, but can't for the life of him fathom that leftwing nuts will hope for anything bad for this country just so they can vilify Trump. Unfortunate for him, that's probably more than half of the dimocrat party.

 

[leftwinger]

From the East undetected right thru Pakistan or whomever airspace they choose. Suck it up muzzlim terrorist killers.

 

[citygator]

Translation: "How the **** am I going to root for Iran after everyone read this thread?!?

I know! I'll just build this stupid strawman instead. "

You didnt address this POS OP being fantasy porn from a hate filled individual. All you did is insult. The bullshit moderating to leave this in politics is a joke.

 

[OldFlame]

Why is it that when Trump does something somehow it's about Democrats (hoping) something.

Let me tell you. You guys elected him. Most of you boasting he was the one that wanted peace, the one that didn't start wars. Now he has attacked a nation, as far as I can tell without a provocation from them at least towards America.

And here you are. Instead of acknowledging that fact, you attack some hypothetical Democratic reaction. I suspect because you know this will have consequences... adverse consequences for American interests.

Those consequences won't be there because Democrats wished them to happen. They will be there because choices Trump and through your vote you caused. So live with them instead of calling out people who don't agree with his (and your) choices.

Why didn't you care about the consequences of Biden giving Ukraine billions to fight a 'super power' with nukes?

Nothing creates peace more than taking out the nuclear ambitions of a jew hating, terrorist supporting regime that has chanted 'death to America' for 5 decades.