Democrats praying for retaliation.

[Missourian]

Trump keeps winning and this is driving the Dems crazy. Dems long for the days they had GW to beat up on. Now the best they can hope for is some foreign country attacks us.

I saw Marco Rubio on Face the Nation today just schooling the "journalist" that runs that show now. Just making her liberal bias look overt and ridiculous. It was a thing of beauty.

Times they are a changin'.

 

[White 6]

Yeah, but you haven't completely lost the plot. You have a touch of TDS, but I'm hopeful you'll get over it in time.

There are a few for folks on our little site here I put in that category.

But so many have so much sunk cost in hating Trump, their critical thinking has completely evaporated.

Not deranged on him. Just don't like him, and have reasons that justify it, to me. But, that doesn't mean oppose him on everything. I have no problem with this move. Just like I had no problem when he popped that Iranian general while the general touring coordinating with his troops inside Iraq, as if having them there, and him being there coordinatin was OK. It wasn't. I hope he gets their attention, in the way he wants, as they have paid him or any American President any attention, in the last 30 or 40 years, while they have pursued their nuclear ambition, the destruction of Israel and to export terrorism for fun and profit. This just might be speaking to them on a level they understand. It is worth a shot, maybe a few shots.

 

[kyzr]

I saw Marco Rubio on Face the Nation today just schooling the "journalist" that runs that show now. Just making her liberal bias look overt and ridiculous. It was a thing of beauty.
Times they are a changin'.

I would vote for Marco for president if he runs
His correcting the leftist host shows why Republicans are rarely on the MSM.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Original opinion of the OP. No link required.

And this is my opinion. Democrats perspective has become so warped... (and maybe Republicans too when Democrats hold the reigns of power, but today we're talking about today's events)... that they sincerely hope that Iran retaliates in a meaningful way only for the purpose of sullying President Trump decision to destroy Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Maybe not all of them, but a significant number. Once again they hang their hopes on outcomes that are detrimental to Americans... just like President Trump's expansion of tariffs to level the playing field, Democrats couldn't wait to take the side of China. When President Trump pursued a doctrine of deporting Illegal Aliens, the Democrats jumped at the opportunity to take the side of foreign nationals.

In my opinion, what's good for Democrats of late is bad for America. Democrats need to get their party back on the rails for the good of the country.

If you're that concerned about Iran retaliation, then maybe Trump shouldn't have launched the attack.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Seems the only way America will find it's way again is not a great big beautiful bill, but a great big nasty civil war.
A nation of people set against each other is doomed.

Man, if you under the age of 65 your future is probably so royally screwed you should get a crown.
Russia is now saying they will supply Iran with nuclear weapons.
Looks like war is looming on every front thanks to the insanity and weakness of the Left for the last 50+ years.

If you're around 65, count your blessings that you just lived through what will probably become known as humanities only Golden Era.

 

[Missourian]

Not deranged on him. Just don't like him, and have reasons that justify it, to me. But, that doesn't mean oppose him on everything. I have no problem with this move. Just like I had no problem when he popped that Iranian general while the general touring coordinating with his troops inside Iraq, as if having them there, and him being there coordinatin was OK. It wasn't. I hope he gets their attention, in the way he wants, as they have paid him or any American President any attention, in the last 30 or 40 years, while they have pursued their nuclear ambition, the destruction of Israel and to export terrorism for fun and profit. This just might be speaking to them on a level they understand. It is worth a shot, maybe a few shots.

I'm definitely of the "no new wars" camp.

But that doesn't mean to me we must be docile isolationists.

We had a convergence of circumstances that almost necessitated our intervention.

Russia is distracted, Israel knocked of Iran's air defenses, and we gave Iran every opportunity for a diplomatic solution. This was an opportunity we couldn't pass up.

 

[Missourian]

If you're that concerned about Iran retaliation, then maybe Trump shouldn't have launched the attack.

Life is risk. You have to weigh benefits vs consequences.

In this instance, the benefit of denying nuclear weapons from the world's most prolific state sponsor of terrorism overwhelmed the consequences of Iranian retaliation.

I would be less worried if Democrats hadn't spent the last four years actively sabotaging our Southern border defense... and continue to fight every deportation of foreign nationals tooth and nail.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I'm definitely of the "no new wars" camp.

But that doesn't mean to me we must be docile isolationists.

We had a convergence of circumstances that almost necessitated our intervention.

Russia is distracted, Israel knocked of Iran's air defenses, and we gave Iran every opportunity for a diplomatic solution. This was an opportunity we couldn't pass up.

OTOH.....I don't trust the media.
Iraq was invaded. Where were all the weapons of mass destruction the media touted so heavily for so long leading up to the invasion and toppling of Hussein?

People are now saying Kadafi was a great man who cared deeply for his people and treated all his citizens like family.
The US did what to Libya?

If you allow your opinion to be spoon fed to you by the media (whichever flavor you choose) then your reality may not be as accurate as you assume it is.

Just saying. There really are some VERY bad people running things.

 

[Doc7505]

What makes you think that, since you say you have nothing in the way of a link to support that?

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[Dr. Phosphorous]

Life is risk. You have to weigh benefits vs consequences.

In this instance, the benefit of denying nuclear weapons from the world's most prolific state sponsor of terrorism overwhelmed the consequences of Iranian retaliation.

I would be less worried if Democrats hadn't spent the last four years actively sabotaging our Southern border defense... and continue to fight every deportation of foreign nationals tooth and nail.

You're a joke. Trump is turning the entire whole world against us with his reckless actions. He is increasing the risk of a dirty bomb being smuggled into this country and killing lots of Americans.

 

[Missourian]

You're a joke. Trump is turning the entire whole world against us with his reckless actions. He is increasing the risk of a dirty bomb being smuggled into this country and killing lots of Americans.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

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What Trump and the MAGA traitors did on Jan 6 is far worse than anything the Democrats have ever done.

There is no comparison.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

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You're assuming that Iran was close to having a nuclear weapon, Simp. They were not.

And if Trump had not torn up the previous agreement with Iran, we would now be a lot safer.

 

[Mac-7]

What makes you think that, since you say you have nothing in the way of a link to support that?

Do you never think for yourself or have opinions that you culled from the lib media?

 

[Missourian]

OTOH.....I don't trust the media.
Iraq was invaded. Where were all the weapons of mass destruction the media touted so heavily for so long leading up to the invasion and toppling of Hussein?

People are now saying Kadafi was a great man who cared deeply for his people and treated all his citizens like family.
The US did what to Libya?

If you allow your opinion to be spoon fed to you by the media (whichever flavor you choose) then your reality may not be as accurate as you assume it is.

Just saying. There really are some VERY bad people running things.

I figure if you build a nuclear enrichment facility at 150 meter deep, you're not just doing it to store your potatoes.

 

[DonGlock26]

Who said anything about hoping Trumps Iran decision failed, or that there was successful blow back, besides right wing nut balls. I am still waiting to see some credible link Dem leader hope we are unsuccessful. At worst, American are hoping for the best, but know there could be blowback.

I am quietly optimistic, this will work out and pretty optimistic, we will see no American boots on the ground, mopping up and changing regimes. Operations like Midnight Hammer, our military is better than anybody. Mop up and regime change, we totally suck balls, and are lousy at, and have been as far back as my living memory, at the very least.

Hoping for the best? I don't think the Democrats are hoping for the best based on their own words. They want to impeach Trump now. You are really underestmating how crazy these Democrats are. They changed the law in NY state in order to attempt to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life. They are assaulting ICE agents trying to arrest criminal illegal aliens.


"Himes: Is it possible? Again, setting aside the constitutional issues which we should never set aside because the Constitution matters, is there some chance that, you know, we got all the nuclear material, the regime falls, and you know, next spring, we're picnicking at Summer Con? Yeah, there is some chance that that is true. But if you look at the history -- and again, all we have is history to go on -- if you look at the history of our military involvements in the region, they almost never end with the best-case scenario. In fact, they usually end in something approximating the worst-case scenario.

On the worst-case scenario in Iran
Karl: And what do you think is the worst-case scenario?

Himes: Oh, well, the worst-case scenario is that, you know, the Iranians have a lot more missiles than we think they do, and we end up with dead soldiers and sailors in the region, that they managed to move the nuclear material out of Fordo, and it's sitting in a warehouse right now. And as we speak, they are building a device. I mean, believe me, I will concede that there is some small chance for a best-case scenario here, there always is. But again, history suggests that you better be well -- you know, aware of the fact that the best-case scenario almost never happens. So, I mean, you can paint a truly apocalyptic picture of any number of a dozen."

Top Democrat says Trump strikes on Iran a 'massive, massive gamble'

“It’s way too early to see how this plays out,” Rep. Jim Himes said.

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'Squad' erupts in fury as Trump takes bold action against Iranian nuclear threat

Far-left Squad members call Trump's strategic missile strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities 'illegal' and grounds for impeachment

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[Dr. Phosphorous]

Do you never think for yourself or have opinions that you culled from the lib media?

You are not one to talk. Everything you "think" comes straight from the imbecile Trump.

Total ******* cult member, you are.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You aren't. Nothing you just posted is correct. Just FYI.

uh-oh!

Bahrain is in the Persian Gulf, not the Arabian Gulf.

And where is the fifth fleet? which was the point...so the only problem was a misnomer, and so you thought you could/would parlay that into the appearance as an act of knowledge.

The Strait of Hormuz connects the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea.

hence my use of the wrong name as I was being lazy and for which my divined punishment seems to be this interaction.

The Red Sea has not nearly as much oil as heads east to Asia. You should consult a good map or globe.

The comparison was between the two gulfs so no need to consult a map [as I am quite familiar with the planet in any case] and I also understand that the oil heading east to Asia would affect us/the west minimally if even at all as far as the conflict and the war effort is concerned than it would the oil heading through the Red Sea for/to the west would affect us... in fact let them sink the tankers heading east to Asia...btw what is the actual "not nearly as much" amount and difference in oil being sent eastward through the Red Sea as opposed to heading east to Asia? [out of curiosity]...you can fake it if ya like as it has no real bearing on any of this anyway.

But thank you for the name correction, embarrassing as it is to get something so simple and so common so wrong that a grade schooler would know it and I muffed it.

 

[Missourian]

You're assuming that Iran was close to having a nuclear weapon, Simp. They were not.

I don't think there is any doubt they were.

There is no civilian application that requires 60% enrichment.

How do you explain this?

That's PBS and the IAEA... Not exactly right-wing sources.

 

[Rawley]

Do you expect Iran to retaliate or just take that attack from a foreign State on their soil laying down?

If sanity prevails, they will lay down their nuclear ambitions on their soil.