‘Democrats Are In A Box’: Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate

Dem support for this ridiculous impeachment is cracking. They have enough problems trying to manage that bumbling stupid shit Biden and his gaffes.

How many more jobs do you think he'll kill by the end of the week?

There's no upper limit. NOTHING gets in the way of the left implementing their agenda. Not destroying jobs, the economy, destroying families, not even Americans getting raped and killed. American needs to wake up and realize who Dems really are.
 
While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.
do it, people are never as dumb as the Troglocrats think that are
 
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While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

Sure sounds dreamy on your part, must be nice for a time. You missed the part there's no reason to impeach Trump.

I don't know why PROGS get lost on cause & effect beyond they are emotionally vested.
 
all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,
Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ... :cuckoo:

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!
Threats of violence? You're a moron. Take a look at the Antifa violence in Portland and Seattle since the coronation.
 
Wrong.
Democrats are checking off boxes:

House Check that box
Senate. Check that box
Oval Office. Check that box
The issue is really the House in 22. AOC and defund the police cost them most of the moderate seats they picked up in 18. But Trump's insurrection cannot have been popular. imo Biden is correct that if the dems respond to covid by improving things, then they should be ok.

The entire impeachment thing is batshit stupid on the part of the democrats. They operate under the absolutist view that everything is just as important as everything else. Politically...it isn't.

It might not be as dumb as you think. They can bar Trump from future office with a simple majority vote in the Senate impeachment trial.
They can also show that they are dictators ignoring the law------------who have to be forcibly removed, justifying protests, revolts, rebellions whatever you wanna call it.
 
Wrong.
Democrats are checking off boxes:

House Check that box
Senate. Check that box
Oval Office. Check that box
The issue is really the House in 22. AOC and defund the police cost them most of the moderate seats they picked up in 18. But Trump's insurrection cannot have been popular. imo Biden is correct that if the dems respond to covid by improving things, then they should be ok.

The entire impeachment thing is batshit stupid on the part of the democrats. They operate under the absolutist view that everything is just as important as everything else. Politically...it isn't.

It might not be as dumb as you think. They can bar Trump from future office with a simple majority vote in the Senate impeachment trial.
They can also show that they are dictators ignoring the law------------who have to be forcibly removed, justifying protests, revolts, rebellions whatever you wanna call it.

Ah, so vague threats of violence?
 
While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.
Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.
Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

The ballots could be witnessed by the Senate Republican leadership when they're counted. Everyone one of them can be held as proof of the validity of the count.

It's not the way it works.

Did you email Schumer with your idiotic plan?

Secret ballots have been discussed by the Senate the last time Trump was impeached. Nothing new here:

There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office - POLITICO Magazine

Capitol Violence Sparks Discussion Of Secret, Safer Impeachment Trial Vote | HuffPost

This would be a horrible solution. There should never be "secret" votes in Congress. The people should always know how their rep voted.

Unless the Senators are acting as jurors and under threat.

Like any other jurors they need protection.

In the case of this impeachment they are not voting on policies or political issues or on a Senate bill, they are voting as jurors in a CRIMINAL CASE.

They must be free from political repercussions and from threats of violence so that they can vote their conscience.

It's not happening kid, it goes against anything and everything of America

So says a supporter of the attempt at INSURRECTION!

I never supported shit, you clown shoes asshole

Just stop with your little dick leftist wet dream, it's not going to happen, asshole

I'll bet you said that Trump would win the election too, fool!

You believe a rich old white 2 time loser with dementia recieved more black votes than the first black president. Fool!
 
‘Democrats Are In A Box’:
Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate
‘Democrats Are In A Box': Graham Says Pelosi's Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate - Conservative Brief
27 Jan 2021 ~~ By Marin Walsh

Even though some establishment Republicans have sided with Democrats in their support of an impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump, plenty of other GOP leaders are vehemently opposed to the idea.
In fact, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham recently told Fox News host Sean Hannity that even some Senate Democrats are souring on the idea based on its perceived political downsides to the effort pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“There’s more than a handful of Democrats praying that [President] Joe Biden will get on the phone and call [Senate Democratic Leader Chuck] Schumer and say it’s over because they understand this is going to blow up in their face politically,” he said.
~Snip~
As a result, Graham predicted that the Senate will “have an overwhelmingly Republican vote that this second impeachment of Donald Trump in unconstitutional.”
~Snip~
While Graham praised McConnell as a “good leader” and “great street fighter,” he said that the Republican leader is “giving some legitimacy to this impeachment process,” which he said he believes is “wrong.”


Comment:
Hmm....., What 'foresight' in the House. Every Democrat and Rino with defective brain synapse in the last month knew this would die in the Senate. Never mind it being unconstitutional ... the left hates said document.
The Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats in their insane hate for Trump wanted impeachment. They got impeachment and unconstititionally so.
The elephant in the room is, Democrats and Rino's don't have the courage of their convictions. If that handful stood up and told leadership that they were opposed, rather than being given cover, Americans would have respect for them.
Obviously Pogressive Marxist/DSA Democrats led by Pelosi and Schumer will continue on their insane path because they know it’s a distraction from Chona Joey Xi's EOs, pending authoritarian legislation, etc. They know their quisling media will continue to give it positive spin.
A snap impeachment in the highest government building of our nation with NO actual evidence presented and an obvious kangaroo court is a crack in the very foundations of the Republic and Constitutional Law and highly reminiscent of Marxist Russian and Chinese sham trials.

But is it going to die in the Senate?

You may want to look into the impeachment of Justice Archibald and the simple majority in his Senate impeachment trial it took to disqualify him from holding any future office.

A simple majority that the Democrats have.

~~~~~~
However, that would be a violation of the Constution that requires :
  • The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to reside over the impeachment of the president.
  • Trump is no longer the president of the United States of America.
  • Senator Leahy is far from impartial
  • It's required that two thirds of the Senate agree to the impeachment.

Trump's not President. So Justice Roberts isn't required to preside over the impeachment. And isn't. Leahy is. And there's no requirement for impartiality. The entire impeachment process is expressly political.

And its required that 2/3 of the Senate agree to REMOVE a person from office. There is no such requirement for disqualifying a person convicted in an impeachment trial from ever holding public office again.

The Senate has long determined that;

1) The issues of removal from office and the issues of disqualification are divisible. They can be voted on separately.
2) That disqualification requires only a simple majority vote.

The senate has come to this determination twice: once in the impeachment trial of Judge Archibald and again in the impeachment trial of Judge Ritter. Archibald was disqualified with a simple majority vote.they

A majority that the Democrats have.
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I disagree.
it's just not important to people who have lost income. they voted for biden because Trump fuked up on covid.

Biden's pushing the COVID funding bills. He'll easily force the republicans to obstruct.....and take the political fall out for the delays.

And Trump lost because he ran on the economy. And the economy was weak.
So biden is going to play political games while people are suffering? Gee, that doesn't make me want to support Bribing Joe.
 
While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.
Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.
Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

The ballots could be witnessed by the Senate Republican leadership when they're counted. Everyone one of them can be held as proof of the validity of the count.

It's not the way it works.

Did you email Schumer with your idiotic plan?

Secret ballots have been discussed by the Senate the last time Trump was impeached. Nothing new here:

There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office - POLITICO Magazine

Capitol Violence Sparks Discussion Of Secret, Safer Impeachment Trial Vote | HuffPost

This would be a horrible solution. There should never be "secret" votes in Congress. The people should always know how their rep voted.

Unless the Senators are acting as jurors and under threat.

Like any other jurors they need protection.

In the case of this impeachment they are not voting on policies or political issues or on a Senate bill, they are voting as jurors in a CRIMINAL CASE.

They must be free from political repercussions and from threats of violence so that they can vote their conscience.


Only one problem--the Senate are not Jurors in a criminal case........................they are just senators supposedly bound by law-
 
As far as concern trolling goes, the Republican senators suck at it. They're scared of having Trump's treason highlighted, because then they have to explain why they're giving the treason a pass. That's why they're pretending to be concerned about how bad it makes Democrats supposedly look.

The trial will go on. The fact that the Trump-losers are getting hysterical is even more reason to have the trial. The Trump cultists wouldn't be soiling themselves if they weren't terrified of Trump being exposed as an open traitor.
 
‘Democrats Are In A Box’:
Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate
‘Democrats Are In A Box': Graham Says Pelosi's Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate - Conservative Brief
27 Jan 2021 ~~ By Marin Walsh

Even though some establishment Republicans have sided with Democrats in their support of an impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump, plenty of other GOP leaders are vehemently opposed to the idea.
In fact, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham recently told Fox News host Sean Hannity that even some Senate Democrats are souring on the idea based on its perceived political downsides to the effort pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“There’s more than a handful of Democrats praying that [President] Joe Biden will get on the phone and call [Senate Democratic Leader Chuck] Schumer and say it’s over because they understand this is going to blow up in their face politically,” he said.
~Snip~
As a result, Graham predicted that the Senate will “have an overwhelmingly Republican vote that this second impeachment of Donald Trump in unconstitutional.”
~Snip~
While Graham praised McConnell as a “good leader” and “great street fighter,” he said that the Republican leader is “giving some legitimacy to this impeachment process,” which he said he believes is “wrong.”


Comment:
Hmm....., What 'foresight' in the House. Every Democrat and Rino with defective brain synapse in the last month knew this would die in the Senate. Never mind it being unconstitutional ... the left hates said document.
The Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats in their insane hate for Trump wanted impeachment. They got impeachment and unconstititionally so.
The elephant in the room is, Democrats and Rino's don't have the courage of their convictions. If that handful stood up and told leadership that they were opposed, rather than being given cover, Americans would have respect for them.
Obviously Pogressive Marxist/DSA Democrats led by Pelosi and Schumer will continue on their insane path because they know it’s a distraction from Chona Joey Xi's EOs, pending authoritarian legislation, etc. They know their quisling media will continue to give it positive spin.
A snap impeachment in the highest government building of our nation with NO actual evidence presented and an obvious kangaroo court is a crack in the very foundations of the Republic and Constitutional Law and highly reminiscent of Marxist Russian and Chinese sham trials.
I honestly can’t understand why anybody gives a spec of a shit about what Lindsey Graham has to say.
 
Democrats are not politically astute. We love lost causes. We should negotiate for censure and barring Trump from Federal service and move on. Our political hearts are bigger than our political brains.
 
This will clearly cost the dems votes from Trumptards

In two years you loons will understand what a colossal failure you supposedly elected.

Pure doom

I don't know. You loons haven't reached that understanding yet when it comes to Trump.

And yeah, Biden was elected by the voters. Something that NEVER happened with Trump. The voters rejected him in 2016, and they rejected him in 2016.
 
Botox and her henchmen don't and won't have the votes

Waste of time

That it is. A waste of time and tax dollars. How do they think they can impeach someone who is out of office??

Imbeciles.

Janaury 2020: Don't impeach Trump. Let the voters decide.
January 2021: McConnell can't hold a trial while Trump is in office because the Senate isn't in session. Now you can't impeach because he's not in office.

Face it. Republicans will allow any kind of loathsome, destructive, and criminal actions by others from their party, without consequences. Even trying to kill the Vice-President is just "boys will be boys" with you fools.
 
Botox and her henchmen don't and won't have the votes

Waste of time

That it is. A waste of time and tax dollars. How do they think they can impeach someone who is out of office??

Imbeciles.

Janaury 2020: Don't impeach Trump. Let the voters decide.
January 2021: McConnell can't hold a trial while Trump is in office because the Senate isn't in session. Now you can't impeach because he's not in office.

Face it. Republicans will allow any kind of loathsome, destructive, and criminal actions by others from their party, without consequences. Even trying to kill the Vice-President is just "boys will be boys" with you fools.

He's a private citizen dumb ass. You can't impeach a private citizen.

God what an idiot you are. The Canadians deserve your stupid ass.
 
Any answers as to why capitol police were removing barriers and opening the doors to the building yet??
Because there was nothing four cops could do to hold up a flimsy barrier in front of thousands of violent protestors so backing off was the safest thing to do.

Common sense.

Apparently you didn't watch the videos of it happening, or you wouldn't make yourself look like a fool with that comment.
 
‘Democrats Are In A Box’:
Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate
‘Democrats Are In A Box': Graham Says Pelosi's Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate - Conservative Brief
27 Jan 2021 ~~ By Marin Walsh

Even though some establishment Republicans have sided with Democrats in their support of an impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump, plenty of other GOP leaders are vehemently opposed to the idea.
In fact, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham recently told Fox News host Sean Hannity that even some Senate Democrats are souring on the idea based on its perceived political downsides to the effort pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“There’s more than a handful of Democrats praying that [President] Joe Biden will get on the phone and call [Senate Democratic Leader Chuck] Schumer and say it’s over because they understand this is going to blow up in their face politically,” he said.
~Snip~
As a result, Graham predicted that the Senate will “have an overwhelmingly Republican vote that this second impeachment of Donald Trump in unconstitutional.”
~Snip~
While Graham praised McConnell as a “good leader” and “great street fighter,” he said that the Republican leader is “giving some legitimacy to this impeachment process,” which he said he believes is “wrong.”


Comment:
Hmm....., What 'foresight' in the House. Every Democrat and Rino with defective brain synapse in the last month knew this would die in the Senate. Never mind it being unconstitutional ... the left hates said document.
The Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats in their insane hate for Trump wanted impeachment. They got impeachment and unconstititionally so.
The elephant in the room is, Democrats and Rino's don't have the courage of their convictions. If that handful stood up and told leadership that they were opposed, rather than being given cover, Americans would have respect for them.
Obviously Pogressive Marxist/DSA Democrats led by Pelosi and Schumer will continue on their insane path because they know it’s a distraction from Chona Joey Xi's EOs, pending authoritarian legislation, etc. They know their quisling media will continue to give it positive spin.
A snap impeachment in the highest government building of our nation with NO actual evidence presented and an obvious kangaroo court is a crack in the very foundations of the Republic and Constitutional Law and highly reminiscent of Marxist Russian and Chinese sham trials.

But is it going to die in the Senate?

You may want to look into the impeachment of Justice Archibald and the simple majority in his Senate impeachment trial it took to disqualify him from holding any future office.

A simple majority that the Democrats have.

~~~~~~
However, that would be a violation of the Constution that requires :
  • The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to reside over the impeachment of the president.
  • Trump is no longer the president of the United States of America.
  • Senator Leahy is far from impartial
  • It's required that two thirds of the Senate agree to the impeachment.

Trump's not President. So Justice Roberts isn't required to preside over the impeachment. And isn't. Leahy is. And there's no requirement for impartiality. The entire impeachment process is expressly political.

And its required that 2/3 of the Senate agree to REMOVE a person from office. There is no such requirement for disqualifying a person convicted in an impeachment trial from ever holding public office again.

The Senate has long determined that;

1) The issues of removal from office and the issues of disqualification are divisible. They can be voted on separately.
2) That disqualification requires only a simple majority vote.

The senate has come to this determination twice: once in the impeachment trial of Judge Archibald and again in the impeachment trial of Judge Ritter. Archibald was disqualified with a simple majority vote.they

A majority that the Democrats have.
post 22

I disagree.
it's just not important to people who have lost income. they voted for biden because Trump fuked up on covid.

Biden's pushing the COVID funding bills. He'll easily force the republicans to obstruct.....and take the political fall out for the delays.

And Trump lost because he ran on the economy. And the economy was weak.
So biden is going to play political games while people are suffering? Gee, that doesn't make me want to support Bribing Joe.
They clearly don't want to discuss Biden at all, that's why they keep harping on Trump. Wonder why? ;)
 
As far as concern trolling goes, the Republican senators suck at it. They're scared of having Trump's treason highlighted, because then they have to explain why they're giving the treason a pass. That's why they're pretending to be concerned about how bad it makes Democrats supposedly look.

The trial will go on. The fact that the Trump-losers are getting hysterical is even more reason to have the trial. The Trump cultists wouldn't be soiling themselves if they weren't terrified of Trump being exposed as an open traitor.

Wasn't there supposed to be a 'trial' in the House, with evidence and all that good stuff, what happened to that??
 

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