Democrat Senator Mark Kelly Faces Court-Martial After Department of War Launches Review of Allegations of Misconduct

[Delldude]

Bennie Hill did a skit about that......running through the hills in a dress and tripping land mines.

 

[rightwinger]

I disagree.

I think Kelly's intent was to remind senior leadership that given court review, and their finding that order were illegal, that they had no obligation to comply.

Such as violation of the Posse Comitatus act.

I don't think it was intended for your low level Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine/Spaceman.

Upper leadership would have more access to legal resources on the matter.

WW

Mostly Agree

I think we are looking at high level decisions like attacking boats, occupying cities
But individual soldiers will engage in encounters with migrants, launching those attacks and performing police actions in cities

 

[rightwinger]

The MAGA cult wants them imprisoned, because they crossed Dear Leader.

Thats where this country is. Right now.

Trump desires execution

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump desires execution

Yes , as one would expect from a malignant narcissist. To such a person, even the merest slight is equal to punching his grandmother or kicking his dog.

 

[Delldude]

But individual soldiers will engage in encounters with migrants, launching those attacks and performing police actions in cities

Forbidden to do LEO functions by Posse Comatatus.

Trump desires execution

Death by booga booga.

 

[rightwinger]

Forbidden to do LEO functions by Posse Comatatus.

Which is why they need to be reminded of refusing illegal acts

 

[Delldude]

Which is why they need to be reminded of refusing illegal acts

They're not under civilian control.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They're not under civilian control.

The military is not under civilian control?

Hmm...

 

[Delldude]

The military is not under civilian control?

Hmm...

Hmmm....not in concert with state and local LEO's they aren't.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Hmmm....not in concert with state and local LEO's they aren't.

Not sure what you mean. Yes, if they commit a crime, even if on duty, they can get arrested and prosecuted by local authorities. "Dual sovereignty".

All the more reason to refuse illegal orders.

 

[schmidlap]

Kelly’s intent was to remind the troops that we are getting dangerously close to illegal orders and that they have an obligation to refuse

The principle that the USA a nation of laws and not of men is noxious to unprincipled men who believe they trump the law.
Advocating adherence to the Uniform Code of Military Justice is entirely consistent with patriotism.
Persecuting and/or prosecuting patriots is consistent with tyranny.
Regarding what legal order did Captain Kelly ever advocate disobedience?

Musk calls Sen. Kelly a 'traitor' over trip to Ukraine

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[eagle1462010]

The principle that the USA a nation of laws and not of men is noxious to unprincipled men who believe they trump the law.
Advocating adherence to the Uniform Code of Military Justice is entirely consistent with patriotism.
Persecuting and/or prosecuting patriots is consistent with tyranny.
Regarding what legal order did Captain Kelly ever advocate disobedience?

Musk calls Sen. Kelly a 'traitor' over trip to Ukraine​

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And what did he say about Bidens Coke kid

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And what did he say about Bidens Coke kid

Nothing that hasn't been said about Trump's coke kid.

 

[WEATHER53]

Yes , as one would expect from a malignant narcissist. To such a person, even the merest slight is equal to punching his grandmother or kicking his dog.

He does admire himself. You have zero self esteem and show it every day

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He does admire himself. You have zero self esteem and show it every day

Criticize their Rape God, and the cult attacks ^^

 

[schmidlap]

And what did he say about Bidens Coke kid

If you are in need of a diversion, I shall credit you with being able to concoct one all by yourseif.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump desires execution

Okay fine
Schedule it.

 

[Delldude]

Nothing that hasn't been said about Trump's coke kid.

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He hooked up with Hunter

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

WTF does that mean?

The order violated these soldier's constitutional rights.

That is for the courts to decide, not their military superiors. Members of the military waive many of their rights by taking the oath of enlistment. Do you think members of the military have freedom of speech? They do not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He hooked up with Hunter

And apparently got some tips on how to sell access to Daddy. Don Jr appears to be much better at it.