Democrat .. Respect for Life

[Moonglow]

Don't assume that humans matter. It's both very human and very wrong.

Well of course the Left does not value human life. They prove it often. Abortion is just one example.

To the Left, the world would be so much better if we culled a few trillion humans. Then we could obtain their much desired utopia, while saving the planet from the scourge that is humankind.

To the Left, there is no right to life until one is convicted of a heinous capital crime.

Yes.

To the lib, protecting a convicted murderer from state sanctioned death penalty, while promoting a woman's right to murder her offspring in the womb, is a perfectly sensible and logical position.

Except this liberal does not live by your pigeon holing....

Good for you assglow.

Now tell me this, do you deny that many libs believe exactly what I stated?

yes...

 

[chikenwing]

Foolish, foolish "conservatives". Liberals want to end abortions just as much as conservatives do...the disagreement occurs when discussing how to bring about an end to all abortions. Abortions are not the problem, just a result of the problem. When we end unwanted pregnancies is when you will see abortions reduced dramatically. Banning abortions won't end them. Women will still get them. Rich women will pay their doctors exorbitant amounts of money to end their pregnancies safely while poor women will end up with someone like Gosling.

Ending abortions will mean more "Dr" Goslings because you would only be stopping the safe, legal regulated ones.

Really? so when a liberal say things like its not human,and many many do just that,your trying to convince people they want to end abortion?? really believe that ??

Yes, I really believe that. Nobody "likes" abortion and nobody wants to have one. You end abortion through science and education, not prohibition. Women have been having abortions since the beginning of time and will have them until the end of time. Liberals want them safe, legal and rare.

You reduce abortions by ending unwanted pregnancies, period.

Or by teaching people what it really is

.Liberals want them safe, legal and rare.
If that was really true why are we still killing millions every yea?Why do the left fight laws that control the cleanliness of a clinic? Or require the Docs have access to local hospitals,all the safe and rare shit is just that shit

 

[Jackson]

If you think republican women don't get abortions you're an idiot.

And until the day you have a fetus inside you for nine months, you really have no say with what a woman does with her body.

As long as taxpayers are paying taxes they have a say. As long as you pay insurance premiums you have a say. As long as the Democratic Party represents death, you will be reminded....

Taxpayers aren't paying for abortions, and for the most part, insurance policies don't cover it either unless you pay extra for the coverage.

I also get a little tired of the right wing screaming about children when they are in the womb trying to snatch food out of their mouths when they are outside the womb to give tax cuts to rich people.

Oh right. Conservatives are snatching the food out of the mouths of babes. Could you get a little more dramatic, please? Who pays the most taxes and just who pays none?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Funny that a lot of people who are "pro-life" as they put it, meaning against abortions, are pro-executions as well.

How can you be pro-life and support executions?

Do you understand the concept of innocence?

You've moved away from the point.

The point is, if you are PRO-LIFE doesn't that mean ALL LIFE?

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.

It's anti-abortion.

It doesn't matter whether a person is innocent or not. If you're "pro-life" then you should be supporting LIFE. Not the life that you choose.

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.
so it a gold fish?? so if a person supports capital punishment,yet is anti abortion in your mind they must do both ir it invalidates the anti abortion stance? is that your logic?

No. I'm saying someone who supports executions but not abortions should not call themselves what they're not, which is pro-life.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If you think republican women don't get abortions you're an idiot.

And until the day you have a fetus inside you for nine months, you really have no say with what a woman does with her body.

As long as taxpayers are paying taxes they have a say. As long as you pay insurance premiums you have a say. As long as the Democratic Party represents death, you will be reminded....

Taxpayers aren't paying for abortions, and for the most part, insurance policies don't cover it either unless you pay extra for the coverage.

I also get a little tired of the right wing screaming about children when they are in the womb trying to snatch food out of their mouths when they are outside the womb to give tax cuts to rich people.

Oh right. Conservatives are snatching the food out of the mouths of babes. Could you get a little more dramatic, please? Who pays the most taxes and just who pays none?

The point seems to be this.

When it comes to abortion the right is big govt.

When the baby is born and it costs money, all of a sudden the right is small govt.

If you have an unmarried mother who lives in poverty, without the education to get a decent job, and you tell her she must not have an abortion, then you need to be prepared to make sure that this kid is going to grow up with more opportunities than the mother to make it.

This means better education, better opportunities, this mean cleaning up the crime and not just being tough on it, it means targeting poverty so that it isn't just an endless cycle of no hope for a lot of people for generations.

If you're not willing to do that, then leave it up the conscience of the woman who is going to have to struggle, or give up, when the baby is born.

 

[JoeB131]

.Liberals want them safe, legal and rare.
If that was really true why are we still killing millions every yea?Why do the left fight laws that control the cleanliness of a clinic? Or require the Docs have access to local hospitals,all the safe and rare shit is just that shit

Because those laws are being drafted by politicians and not doctors.

 

[HenryBHough]

You reduce abortions by ending unwanted pregnancies, period.

Got the Democrat perspective backward, eh?

 

[Lumpy 1]

Yu

Funny that a lot of people who are "pro-life" as they put it, meaning against abortions, are pro-executions as well.

How can you be pro-life and support executions?

Do you understand the concept of innocence?

You've moved away from the point.

The point is, if you are PRO-LIFE doesn't that mean ALL LIFE?

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.

It's anti-abortion.

It doesn't matter whether a person is innocent or not. If you're "pro-life" then you should be supporting LIFE. Not the life that you choose.

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.
so it a gold fish?? so if a person supports capital punishment,yet is anti abortion in your mind they must do both ir it invalidates the anti abortion stance? is that your logic?

Yup that's his point of view but don't bother trying to slap some logic into him..totally incapable of comprehension or sticking to the subject.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Foolish, foolish "conservatives". Liberals want to end abortions just as much as conservatives do...the disagreement occurs when discussing how to bring about an end to all abortions. Abortions are not the problem, just a result of the problem. When we end unwanted pregnancies is when you will see abortions reduced dramatically. Banning abortions won't end them. Women will still get them. Rich women will pay their doctors exorbitant amounts of money to end their pregnancies safely while poor women will end up with someone like Gosling.

Ending abortions will mean more "Dr" Goslings because you would only be stopping the safe, legal regulated ones.

Really? so when a liberal say things like its not human,and many many do just that,your trying to convince people they want to end abortion?? really believe that ??

Foolish, foolish "conservatives". Liberals want to end abortions just as much as conservatives do...the disagreement occurs when discussing how to bring about an end to all abortions. Abortions are not the problem, just a result of the problem. When we end unwanted pregnancies is when you will see abortions reduced dramatically. Banning abortions won't end them. Women will still get them. Rich women will pay their doctors exorbitant amounts of money to end their pregnancies safely while poor women will end up with someone like Gosling.

Ending abortions will mean more "Dr" Goslings because you would only be stopping the safe, legal regulated ones.

Really? so when a liberal say things like its not human,and many many do just that,your trying to convince people they want to end abortion?? really believe that ??

Almost 58 million abortions in America since Roe vs Wade and Democrats believe the holocaust is going along just fine of course, no real action required but false concern and phony political slogans. "Safe, Legal and RARE", pure Democratic Party bullshit and pandering for the stupid and gullable vote.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Funny that a lot of people who are "pro-life" as they put it, meaning against abortions, are pro-executions as well.

How can you be pro-life and support executions?

Do you understand the concept of innocence?

You've moved away from the point.

The point is, if you are PRO-LIFE doesn't that mean ALL LIFE?

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.

It's anti-abortion.

It doesn't matter whether a person is innocent or not. If you're "pro-life" then you should be supporting LIFE. Not the life that you choose.

It's not pro-life, it's not even pro-human life.
so it a gold fish?? so if a person supports capital punishment,yet is anti abortion in your mind they must do both ir it invalidates the anti abortion stance? is that your logic?

No. I'm saying someone who supports executions but not abortions should not call themselves what they're not, which is pro-life.

...and by extension and your pitiful logic you are pro-death in every case because you believe in torturing and killing innocent human life before birth.. correct ..

 

[ninja007]

Funny that a lot of people who are "pro-life" as they put it, meaning against abortions, are pro-executions as well.

How can you be pro-life and support executions?

ummm.... one is innocent, one is not.

 

[JoeB131]

Almost 58 million abortions in America since Roe vs Wade and Democrats believe the holocaust is going along just fine of course, no real action required but false concern and phony political slogans. "Safe, Legal and RARE", pure Democratic Party bullshit and pandering for the stupid and gullable vote.

There were just as many abortions happening before Roe v. Wade as after. The delusion you wingnuts have is that the pre-Roe world was one were fetuses were rigorously protected by the authorities.

Reality check, from someone who lived during that time. Before Roe, if you got pregnant and wanted to "Take care of that', there was always somewhere you could get it done. and unless he was an operator like Arnold Bickman (A famous incompetent abortionist who serviced poor women) the authorities didn't do jack diddly about them. He wrote D&C on your chart and sent you on your way.

Roe Determined- rightly, that these laws were unenforcable and cruel to the woman.

More to the point, if you got your way, it still wouldn't work. IN 1967, Romania attempted to ban not only abortion but birth control. and the birth rate shot up. For about a year. Then people figured ways to get around the law. This was in a communist dictatorship run by a guy so nutty his own people shot him.

Another example- the Philippines. abortion is illegal except for medical necessity, but it is estimated that anywhere from 500,000 to 800,000 Filipinas abort their pregnancies. (That's almost as many annual abortions as the US for a country that only has a third of our population.

Now, for the Safe, Legal and Rare- Yes, Democrats have proposed ways to make abortions rarer.

1) Paid Family and Medical Leave
2) Universal Health Care
3) Universal Day Care
4) Comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives.

Things Conservatives fight tooth and nail because they make either Baby Jesus or Ayn Rand cry. And so when that clerk at Walmart finds a little plus on her EPT, she can either do a pregnancy WalMart won't cover for $10,000, or she can do an abortion for $300.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Funny that a lot of people who are "pro-life" as they put it, meaning against abortions, are pro-executions as well.

How can you be pro-life and support executions?

ummm.... one is innocent, one is not.

So.... what?

Innocent or not, if you are pro-life you support life, regardless of innocence or not.

It's like being a vegetarian who eats beef, pork and chicken.

 

[gipper]

There were just as many abortions happening before Roe v. Wade as after.

LIAR!!!

 

[JoeB131]

There were just as many abortions happening before Roe v. Wade as after.

LIAR!!!

Guy, here are the number of live births for the 1970's. Please note, the number did NOT drop by hundreds of thousands in 1973 or 1974 from 1972, and by 1977, it was back where it was.

Live Births and Birth Rates by Year Infoplease.com

197033,731,386 18.4
197133,555,970 17.2
1972 3,258,411 15.6
1973 3,136,965 14.9
1974 3,159,958 14.9
1975 3,144,198 14.8
1976 3,167,788 14.8
1977 3,326,632 15.4