Democrat governor releases convicted murderer of two. Will convicted murderer kill again?

[JoeB131]

You look at the world through SJW idiot lenses and see SJW idiot things. surprise surprise.

I don't see how you can look at it any other way.

The Cops tortured a confession out of this guy. They won a conviction that another judge threw out because, hey, there was torture involved. Instead of just admitting their mistake, the Crook County States Attorney went judge shopping until they found the Klan Judge who thought that there is some universe where torturing a confession out of a guy is acceptable.

Sans torture, their entire case is based on they saw them arguing with one of the victims in the hall, and they dug a bullet out of a wall that matched the bullet used in the murder. They didn't actually HAVE the gun. They had no witnesses to the murder, no DNA, no physical evidence.

I find it funny that you guys think it's the worst thing ever when they make some white people bake a cake they promised to bake, but torturing a black person and throwing him in jail for 30 years for a crime he probably didn't commit.... meh, no biggie.

Silly Darky. Rights are for White People!

 

[martybegan]

You look at the world through SJW idiot lenses and see SJW idiot things. surprise surprise.

I don't see how you can look at it any other way.

The Cops tortured a confession out of this guy. They won a conviction that another judge threw out because, hey, there was torture involved. Instead of just admitting their mistake, the Crook County States Attorney went judge shopping until they found the Klan Judge who thought that there is some universe where torturing a confession out of a guy is acceptable.

Sans torture, their entire case is based on they saw them arguing with one of the victims in the hall, and they dug a bullet out of a wall that matched the bullet used in the murder. They didn't actually HAVE the gun. They had no witnesses to the murder, no DNA, no physical evidence.

I find it funny that you guys think it's the worst thing ever when they make some white people bake a cake they promised to bake, but torturing a black person and throwing him in jail for 30 years for a crime he probably didn't commit.... meh, no biggie.

Silly Darky. Rights are for White People!

Guess the rights of the dead black people this asshole killed or helped kill don't matter.

 

[JoeB131]

Guess the rights of the dead black people this asshole killed or helped kill don't matter.

Hey, I think it's awful that Burge let the real killers get away because he took the path of least resistance.

 

[martybegan]

Guess the rights of the dead black people this asshole killed or helped kill don't matter.

Hey, I think it's awful that Burge let the real killers get away because he took the path of least resistance.

Is there direct evidence Burge did anything, or is this just a case of these guys working for him, which isn't much of a link because how many guys did work for him?

 

[JoeB131]

Is there direct evidence Burge did anything, or is this just a case of these guys working for him, which isn't much of a link because how many guys did work for him?

Uh, sorry, he was the commander... he was responsible for everything that happened in his command.

The Burge Case | Chicago Torture Justice Memorials

chicagotorture.org

MAY 1972

Jon Burge was promoted to Chicago Police Detective and assigned to Area 2 on the south side of Chicago. Prior to joining the CPD, Burge served as a military police investigator in Vietnam.

1972 – 1981

African-American men were tortured with electric shock and suffocation in Area 2 by Burge and his men in order to obtain confessions.

FEB. 14,1982

Andrew Wilson was arrested for murder and brought to Area 2 where he was repeatedly tortured with electric-shock, suffocation and burning by Burge and detectives under his supervision.


FEB. 1982

Then Cook County State's Attorney Richard M. Daley was advised that Burge and his men tortured Andrew Wilson. Daley does not initiate a criminal investigation.

FEB. 17,1982

Andrew Wilson was examined by Dr. John Raba, Medical Director at Cook County Jail. Dr. Raba sent a letter to Police Superintendent Richard Breczek detailing Wilson's injuries and requesting an investigation.

1981 – 1988

Over 87 men alleged being tortured at Area 2 in order to obtain confessions. In most of the cases, the State's Attorney's Office was aware of the allegations, but used the coerced statements to convict the torture survivors and send them to prison anyway.


NOV. 2, 1992

Office Professional Standards completed its investigation and cites 50 cases of torture and abuse at Area 2 under Burge and finds that this abuse was "systematic", "methodological" and "included psychological techniques and planned torture."

JAN. 28, 1991

Amnesty International issued a report calling for an inquiry into allegation of police torture in Chicago. Then Mayor Daley responds with "no comment whatsoever."

JAN. 1992

During proceedings before the Police Board, City lawyers admitted that the evidence of Area 2 torture established "an astounding pattern or plan… to torture certain suspects… into confessing to crimes."

FEB. 11, 1993

The Chicago Police Board fired Jon Burge and suspended Detective John Yucaitis for 15 months on charges of torturing and physically abusing Andrew Wilson.

1998

Torture survivors on Illinois's death row began to organize, dubbing themselves The Death Row 10. The survivors and family members joined with the Campaign to End the Death Penalty, the Illinois Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty and attorneys to mount a commutation campaign.

2003

Governor George Ryan commuted all death sentences and pardoned four, having determined that their confessions were obtained under torture by Burge and his men.

2004

Fed up with local government officials' failure to hold Burge and others accountable and provide reparations to the survivors, Black People Against Police Torture (BPAPT) organized a coalition of lawyers, activists and organizations to take the cases to the International Human Rights Arena.

 

[martybegan]

Is there direct evidence Burge did anything, or is this just a case of these guys working for him, which isn't much of a link because how many guys did work for him?

Uh, sorry, he was the commander... he was responsible for everything that happened in his command.

The Burge Case | Chicago Torture Justice Memorials

chicagotorture.org

MAY 1972

Jon Burge was promoted to Chicago Police Detective and assigned to Area 2 on the south side of Chicago. Prior to joining the CPD, Burge served as a military police investigator in Vietnam.

1972 – 1981

African-American men were tortured with electric shock and suffocation in Area 2 by Burge and his men in order to obtain confessions.

FEB. 14,1982

Andrew Wilson was arrested for murder and brought to Area 2 where he was repeatedly tortured with electric-shock, suffocation and burning by Burge and detectives under his supervision.


FEB. 1982

Then Cook County State's Attorney Richard M. Daley was advised that Burge and his men tortured Andrew Wilson. Daley does not initiate a criminal investigation.

FEB. 17,1982

Andrew Wilson was examined by Dr. John Raba, Medical Director at Cook County Jail. Dr. Raba sent a letter to Police Superintendent Richard Breczek detailing Wilson's injuries and requesting an investigation.

1981 – 1988

Over 87 men alleged being tortured at Area 2 in order to obtain confessions. In most of the cases, the State's Attorney's Office was aware of the allegations, but used the coerced statements to convict the torture survivors and send them to prison anyway.


NOV. 2, 1992

Office Professional Standards completed its investigation and cites 50 cases of torture and abuse at Area 2 under Burge and finds that this abuse was "systematic", "methodological" and "included psychological techniques and planned torture."

JAN. 28, 1991

Amnesty International issued a report calling for an inquiry into allegation of police torture in Chicago. Then Mayor Daley responds with "no comment whatsoever."

JAN. 1992

During proceedings before the Police Board, City lawyers admitted that the evidence of Area 2 torture established "an astounding pattern or plan… to torture certain suspects… into confessing to crimes."

FEB. 11, 1993

The Chicago Police Board fired Jon Burge and suspended Detective John Yucaitis for 15 months on charges of torturing and physically abusing Andrew Wilson.

1998

Torture survivors on Illinois's death row began to organize, dubbing themselves The Death Row 10. The survivors and family members joined with the Campaign to End the Death Penalty, the Illinois Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty and attorneys to mount a commutation campaign.

2003

Governor George Ryan commuted all death sentences and pardoned four, having determined that their confessions were obtained under torture by Burge and his men.

2004

Fed up with local government officials' failure to hold Burge and others accountable and provide reparations to the survivors, Black People Against Police Torture (BPAPT) organized a coalition of lawyers, activists and organizations to take the cases to the International Human Rights Arena.

So nothing about him actually doing anything on THIS case.

correlation does not equal causation.

 

[JoeB131]

So nothing about him actually doing anything on THIS case.

correlation does not equal causation.

You mean that the guy who was torturing people for 20 years had nothing to do with the torture that left a man crippled in his command.. Um, sure. That one will fly.

 

[martybegan]

So nothing about him actually doing anything on THIS case.

correlation does not equal causation.

You mean that the guy who was torturing people for 20 years had nothing to do with the torture that left a man crippled in his command.. Um, sure. That one will fly.

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[JoeB131]

Correlation does not equal causation.

Uh, it does when leadership condones behavior.

 

[martybegan]

Correlation does not equal causation.

Uh, it does when leadership condones behavior.

No, it doesn't. Unless you got direct proof he was involved, all you have is a smear attempt on two cops.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it doesn't. Unless you got direct proof he was involved, all you have is a smear attempt on two cops.

Um, the City has already paid out millions in damages to people tortured by Burge's crew, and Burge himself eventually went to prison.