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Democrats forgot how democracy works, WE the PEOPLE, the MAJORITY tell YOU asshole "representatives" WHAT WE want. Not the other way around. Did you creeps forget that?
 

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Democrats forgot how democracy works, WE the PEOPLE, the MAJORITY tell YOU assholes WHAT WE want. Not the other way around.
TBH.....The USA is a Republic.

That is an emphasis on Individual rights sometimes in spite of the majority.
It's designed specifically to be sure ALL have a voice if not an equal one.

It might not really be a good thing to have the majority dictate to the minority. Even if at a distance it appears that way.
Besides, if there are 600 million citizens and 299,999,999 people want it this way but 300,000,001 want it that way and the "Majority" has it's way, that means a LOT of people will have to live by the others rules.

It's all about compromise and America was pretty good at it until the era of Socialists, Communists and Marxists besieged the land.
 
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Democrats forgot how democracy works, WE the PEOPLE, the MAJORITY tell YOU assholes WHAT WE want. Not the other way around.
The Democrats won by a majority, both in popular vote as in electoral college. That is how it works.
The Majority rules.

2020 United States presidential election
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
States carried25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02
Popular vote81,268,92474,216,154
Percentage51.3%46.9%
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2020 United States presidential election
NomineeJoe BidenDonald Trump
PartyDemocraticRepublican
Home stateDelawareFlorida
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
 

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TBH.....The USA is a Republic.

That is an emphasis on Individual rights sometimes in spite of the majority.
It's designed specifically to be sure ALL have a voice if not an equal one.

It might not really be a good thing to have the majority dictate to the minority. Even if at a distance it appears that way.
Your individual rights are not being stomped on.
First, second or last.

Inciting that those rights are being stomped on is the real problem, when none of them are.
 

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Your individual rights are not being stomped on.
First, second or last.

Inciting that those rights are being stomped on is the real problem, when none of them are.

And who gets to decide when that occurs? Let me guess....the Left?
What is "Equality"? Do you define it as meaning others do things your way only?

Here's an exercise for you.....
Burn an American flag in public (no problem...free speech)
Burn a LGBTQ flag in public (felony hate crime)

A white person calls a black person the N word in public (hate crime)
A black person calls a white person a "cracker", "honkie" or whatever (perfectly ok)

A person in NY carries a concealed handgun in NY without a permit (Felony in NY even though it's a Constitutional Right SCOTUS confirmed)
A NY politician denies a citizen the ability to carry a concealed handgun in NY for self protection (Perfectly fine in NY)

There are FAR too many examples of this for your statement to have any credibility.

Rights are indeed being stomped on. It's just that you have no problem with the vast majority that are being stomped on
 

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The Democrats won by a majority, both in popular vote as in electoral college. That is how it works.
The Majority rules.

2020 United States presidential election
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
States carried25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02
Popular vote81,268,92474,216,154
Percentage51.3%46.9%
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2020 United States presidential election
NomineeJoe BidenDonald Trump
PartyDemocraticRepublican
Home stateDelawareFlorida
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232

I do hope the tables turn someday and the Right goes into overdrive stealing elections and ignoring election law.
Simply because you (and the Left) need this in order to see the current inequities for what they are.
The Right has (to date) never done this systemically. Only sporadically and on an isolated basis.
 
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I, lib. I used to be a democrat. I went to caucus and various other Dem social meetings. I remember when democrats used to listen to us. That was what Democracy was about. I was told, at caucus (literally, "WE tell YOU what the issues ARE")..how democratic. THIS is why I fled the democratic party.
 

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I do hope the tables turn someday and the Right goes into overdrive stealing elections and ignoring election law.
Simply because you (and the Left) need this in order to see the current inequities for what they are.
The Right has (to date) never done this systemically. Only sporadically and on an isolated basis.
I do not know what you are talking about since Trump's own people said that 2020 was the most secure election in a long time.
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The 2020 US election was the most secure in American history, according to US elections officials.

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double-checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result,” the coordinating bodies on election infrastructure and security said in a joint statement issued by the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA).

The statement directly contradicts President Donald Trump, who has made unfounded allegations of widespread voting irregularities and fraud. The president is using these claims to challenge the vote counts in several key states that delivered President-elect Joe Biden his apparent Electoral College victory.

The Trump campaign has filed dozens of lawsuits, some of which have already been dismissed. But the barrage of legal action and Trump’s false claims — often bolstered by right-wing media and some of the president’s allies in the Republican Party — have undermined overall faith in the electoral process and in the safety and security of US elections.

In the statement, election officials noted that though some states may do recounts, “All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary.” This beefs up the security of the vote and allows officials to correct and identify mistakes in the counting process.

But the statement made one thing very clear: “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”

Or as Chris Krebs, the head of CISA, put it: “TLDR: America, we have confidence in the security of your vote, you should, too.”



 

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I, lib. I used to be a democrat. I went to caucus and various other Dem social meetings. I remember when democrats used to listen to us. That was what Democracy was about. I was told, at caucus (literally, "WE tell YOU what the issues ARE")..how democratic. THIS is why I fled the democratic party.
What can be said about your endless Memorex.

You do know that it is not what the Democratic Party is all about, and are trying incredibly hard to make others, or yourself, believe that it is true.

You were NEVER a Democrat. Saying so, does not make you so, on any time of your life.

You are about gaslighting and inciting others against the Democratic Party.

We shall see the results in November.
 

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I do not know what you are talking about since Trump's own people said that 2020 was the most secure election in a long time.
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The 2020 US election was the most secure in American history, according to US elections officials.

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double-checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result,” the coordinating bodies on election infrastructure and security said in a joint statement issued by the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA).

The statement directly contradicts President Donald Trump, who has made unfounded allegations of widespread voting irregularities and fraud. The president is using these claims to challenge the vote counts in several key states that delivered President-elect Joe Biden his apparent Electoral College victory.

The Trump campaign has filed dozens of lawsuits, some of which have already been dismissed. But the barrage of legal action and Trump’s false claims — often bolstered by right-wing media and some of the president’s allies in the Republican Party — have undermined overall faith in the electoral process and in the safety and security of US elections.

In the statement, election officials noted that though some states may do recounts, “All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary.” This beefs up the security of the vote and allows officials to correct and identify mistakes in the counting process.

But the statement made one thing very clear: “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”

Or as Chris Krebs, the head of CISA, put it: “TLDR: America, we have confidence in the security of your vote, you should, too.”




So, you honestly think Mark Zuckerberg (facebook) spent over $400 million to ensure elections were fair?
I guess you also believe that changing the election process to make fraud MUCH easier was innocent too?

Tyrants and Dictators ALWAYS brag of the legitimacy and fairness of their elections.
 
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What can be said about your endless Memorex.

You do know that it is not what the Democratic Party is all about, and are trying incredibly hard to make others, or yourself, believe that it is true.

You were NEVER a Democrat. Saying so, does not make you so, on any time of your life.

You are about gaslighting and inciting others against the Democratic Party.

We shall see the results in November.
Aren't you jumping to a huge conclusion here? I voted for Jimmie Carter in the 70's. I held my breath when Regan came to power...So generations later, we get liberal idiot commander in chief, Biden whose corruption and stupidity we can't question because its against democrat dogma? Says WHO?
 

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So, you honestly think Mark Zuckerberg (facebook) spent over $400 million to ensure elections were fair?
I guess you also believe that changing the election process to make fraud MUCH easier was innocent too?

Tyrants and Dictators ALWAYS brag of the legitimacy and fairness of their elections.
Zuckerberg is a Republican. What a horrible example which goes against the Republican Party.

Nobody made the process to ease fraud. Mail In Ballots have been around for a long time.

The fraud was committed when Mail in Box after Mail in box was removed, or De Joy decided to remove sorting machines from the Post Office all over, etc etc.

What, you did not know that any of that happened, which affected ALL voters.


It should never have happened, but it was Trump and De Joy who devised that little plan.
 

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Aren't you jumping to a huge conclusion here? I voted for Jimmie Carter in the 70's. I held my breath when Regan came to power...So generations later, we get liberal idiot commander in chief, Biden whose corruption and stupidity we can't question because its against democrat dogma? Says WHO?
What Biden corruption?

Question all you want, as long as you have the evidence to back it up.

Where is it?
 

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Aren't you jumping to a huge conclusion here? I voted for Jimmie Carter in the 70's. I held my breath when Regan came to power...So generations later, we get liberal idiot commander in chief, Biden whose corruption and stupidity we can't question because its against democrat dogma? Says WHO?
Who? I must have missed that one.
 

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Zuckerberg is a Republican. What a horrible example which goes against the Republican Party.

Nobody made the process to ease fraud. Mail In Ballots have been around for a long time.

The fraud was committed when Mail in Box after Mail in box was removed, or De Joy decided to remove sorting machines from the Post Office all over, etc etc.

What, you did not know that any of that happened, which affected ALL voters.


It should never have happened, but it was Trump and De Joy who devised that little plan.

You really need to lay off the intoxicating substances while posting!

Where is your link to that fantasy?
 

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Zuckerberg is a Republican. What a horrible example which goes against the Republican Party.

Nobody made the process to ease fraud. Mail In Ballots have been around for a long time.

The fraud was committed when Mail in Box after Mail in box was removed, or De Joy decided to remove sorting machines from the Post Office all over, etc etc.

What, you did not know that any of that happened, which affected ALL voters.


It should never have happened, but it was Trump and De Joy who devised that little plan.

lol
A "Republican" ?
Who else was a 'Republican" ?
Liz Cheney
 

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