Delusions of Israelis and Palestinians Are Destroying the Peace Process

[P F Tinmore]

Being the losers in a war means they don't need to be sold. They get told.

Israeli propaganda.

The Palestinians never lost a war to Israel.

Palestinians never had a nation to LOSE in a war either. Unfortunately for them -- their LEASE holders lost THEIR war against Israel.. What part of that do you still not understand????

This must be one of those "delusions destroying the peace process" that this thread is about. There's a LOT of delusions --- on both sides interfering with visions of what could be with a peaceful solutions..

Palestinians never had a nation to LOSE in a war either. Unfortunately for them -- their LEASE holders lost THEIR war against Israel.​

Links?

 

[rhodescholar]

Actually...I'm beginning to think *you* are the one divorced from reality. Cubans are Cuban citizens. Syrians are Syrian citizens. There is a place to send them to where they hold citizenship.

Keep up with the news, dimwit:

U.S.-bound Cuban migrants stranded in Costa Rica camps

 

[Coyote]

Actually...I'm beginning to think *you* are the one divorced from reality. Cubans are Cuban citizens. Syrians are Syrian citizens. There is a place to send them to where they hold citizenship.

Keep up with the news, dimwit:

U.S.-bound Cuban migrants stranded in Costa Rica camps

And? This relates to your plan of expelling some 4 million Palestinians how?

 

[rhodescholar]

The problem with this is that the Palestinians are the only ones who would be making concessions.
How would you sell that to the Palestinians?

Really, turd? What concessions are those? All I see is Israel ethnically cleansing jews out of certain areas, and the arab muslims making phony promises to stop the terrorism, which they unsuprisingly, never do.

 

[Coyote]

The problem with this is that the Palestinians are the only ones who would be making concessions.
How would you sell that to the Palestinians?

Really, turd? What concessions are those? All I see is Israel ethnically cleansing jews out of certain areas, and the arab muslims making phony promises to stop the terrorism, which they unsuprisingly, never do.

Kind of like Israel never stops it's settlement building.

 

[rhodescholar]

When there is an invasion, the inhabitants that sought refuge from the fighting in the invaded territory have a right to return once the fighting stops. The Jews came from Europe and invaded Palestine.

And the arab muslims came from Egypt, Jordan and Syria. Still lying on this forum like the worthless fucking turd you've always been, scumbag?

 

[rhodescholar]

Kind of like Israel never stops it's settlement building.

Building more housing units in the same square footage one already resides is hardly expansionism. Israel has been there for 50 years, if they wanted to take over and ethnic cleanse the arabs, anyone with half a brain would have realized by now they would have done so long ago.

 

[Coyote]

Kind of like Israel never stops it's settlement building.

Building more housing units in the same square footage one already resides is hardly expansionism. Israel has been there for 50 years, if they wanted to take over and ethnic cleanse the arabs, anyone with half a brain would have realized by now they would have done so long ago.

Funny. There's lots of new settlements and outposts.

 

[rhodescholar]

And? This relates to your plan of expelling some 4 million Palestinians how?

The point is that they are cubans, yet are being somehow being allowed to invade the US en masse, just as the syrian hordes are being allowed into Europe. Funny how dipshits like you support brown people and arab muslims being allowed to move wherever they want - but jews, well, they have to go back to the concentration camps/ghettos. You are as noncredible as ever, dimwit.

 

[rhodescholar]

Funny. There's lots of new settlements and outposts.

Even funnier is how the outposts and unapproved building gets stopped. Tell us when the last time abbas or any senior official in the PA ordered the arabs to stop the knife attacks.

 

[Coyote]

And? This relates to your plan of expelling some 4 million Palestinians how?

The point is that they are cubans, yet are being somehow being allowed to invade the US en masse, just as the syrian hordes are being allowed into Europe. Funny how dipshits like you support brown people and arab muslims being allowed to move wherever they want - but jews, well, they have to go back to the concentration camps/ghettos. You are as noncredible as ever, dimwit.

So where are you going to send 4 plus million Palestinians? Cubans can legally be deported to Cuba - the choice of letting them in, ignoring their entrance etc is up to each country but they CAN be deported. Where can Palestinians be deported?

You're the only one going on about concentration camps and brown people.

 

[montelatici]

When there is an invasion, the inhabitants that sought refuge from the fighting in the invaded territory have a right to return once the fighting stops. The Jews came from Europe and invaded Palestine.

And the arab muslims came from Egypt, Jordan and Syria. Still lying on this forum like the worthless fucking turd you've always been, scumbag?

No, the native people of Palestine were Christians and Muslims. The European Jews began invading in the mid 1800s. Why do you continue to make things up?

AN INTERIM REPORT​

ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
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PALESTINE,​

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during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.​

AN INTERIM REPORT​

ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.​

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I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

 

[rhodescholar]

Palestinians never had a nation to LOSE

First truthful statement you've made in your entire, failed life.

 

[Coyote]

Funny. There's lots of new settlements and outposts.

Even funnier is how the outposts and unapproved building gets stopped. Tell us when the last time abbas or any senior official in the PA ordered the arabs to stop the knife attacks.

They get stopped? Do tell.

It's kind of hard to tell how many get legalized vs how many get ignored vs how many get dismantled.

 

[rhodescholar]

So where are you going to send 4 plus million Palestinians? Cubans can legally be deported to Cuba -

No they can't, imbecile. Once they reach the US they automatically qualify as a refugee.

Where can Palestinians be deported?

Lots of room in syria these days, where most of them came from anyway.

You're the only one going on about concentration camps and brown people.

You're the one claiming jews have no right to a homeland/sovereign state, and others are allowed to move where they choose.

 

[rhodescholar]

They get stopped? Do tell. It's kind of hard to tell how many get legalized vs how many get ignored vs how many get dismantled.

Israeli court orders outpost to be demolished

Israeli forces destroy illegal West Bank settlement houses

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/world/middleeast/22israel.html

 

[Coyote]

So where are you going to send 4 plus million Palestinians? Cubans can legally be deported to Cuba -

No they can't, imbecile. Once they reach the US they automatically qualify as a refugee.

Where can Palestinians be deported?

Lots of room in syria these days, where most of them came from anyway.

Since we know they did not come from Syria, we can X that retarded idea not to mention you'd be sending 4 million civilians into a humanitarian nightmare, but I doubt that would bother you.

Syria doesn't have to take them and can refuse them.

Your plan doesn't look very feasible.

You're the only one going on about concentration camps and brown people.

You're the one claiming jews have no right to a homeland/sovereign state, and others are allowed to move where they choose.[/QUOTE]

And where have I claimed that, or...is this another case where your reading skills fail to meet acceptable standards?

 

[Coyote]

They get stopped? Do tell. It's kind of hard to tell how many get legalized vs how many get ignored vs how many get dismantled.

Israeli court orders outpost to be demolished

Israeli forces destroy illegal West Bank settlement houses

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/world/middleeast/22israel.html

Israel legalizes three settlement outposts | News | DW.COM | 24.04.2012

Israel to legalize four West Bank settlement outposts slated for demolition - Diplomacy and Defense

Peace Now: PM legalized 20 West Bank settler outposts since 2009

 

[rhodescholar]

No, the native people of Palestine were Christians and Muslims. The European Jews began invading in the mid 1800s. Why do you continue to make things up?

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Just the fact that you claim that muslims, who did not even exist as a people until 670 AD, were there before the jews is a sign you are fucking mentally ill. That you further claim, despite even Norman Finkelstein's work proving that there were many thousands of jews there throughout history, is another sign of your abject fucking stupidity. You're a fucking fraud, a whitebread bottom-feeding turd who thinks with some BS from fake scholars like ilan pappe is going to prove what everyone knows already, that the vast majority of arab muslims moved en masse into Israel from the 1800s forward.

 

[rhodescholar]

Since we know they did not come from Syria, we can X that retarded idea not to mention you'd be sending 4 million civilians into a humanitarian nightmare, but I doubt that would bother you.

There are 57 muslim-majority nations, and lots of them have plenty of space. Egypt offered a region FIVE TIMES larger than the west bank/gaza COMBINED, and they refused, which isn't surprising - all they give a fuck about is killing jews and destroying Israel. Had they actually ever wanted to build a state/real country, they could have done so 70 years ago.

And where have I claimed that, or...is this another case where your reading skills fail to meet acceptable standards?

The failure is that racist trash like you thinks that your transparent BS is not easily seen through.

When you hold the arab muslims accountable for all of their heinous, endless terrorism and violence against jews and others, going back centuries, displayed in all of its glory as they ethnically cleanse all of the other minorities out of the mideast, THEN I might give a flying fuck what you have to say.