'Deeply disturbing': Musk's 'Hitler didn't murder millions' repost draws outrage

[sealybobo]

If the unions stop pushing lefty agenda, and instead push worker's interests, getting rid of immigrants would greatly increase their leverage and open up possiblity of growth and relevance for them.

I totally get it now. And I’m not going to use an argument each side uses when it’s convenient. “You have a 401k too right?” I’m not going to do that. The market will come back. We need to bring vital manufacturing back to America. We can’t rely on China.

And we need to stop the flow of illegals. I wish they’d go after illegal employers because there’s more than one way to come to America. Visitor visa? Student visas? Come to visit cousin, stay.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This liberal maga woman on bill Maher last night said she supports what trumps doing because yes the stock market is tanking. That’s the rich. They are going to suffer and this is all t help middle class people. The same facts and opinions she had, I agreed with. D9 I believe trump is sincere? No. I think the rich are cleverly scamming her. But now I get it. Yes the deep state is going to fight trump.

Send illegal workers home. Makes sense to her and me too.

Bring steel, pharma, manufacturing back so when we go to war with China, we don’t rely on China for vital things we need. Omg, I get it!

Shrink government. Stop the out of control debt. Will trump? Probably not.

This woman doesn’t understand that unions are important to these people. That great generation she talks about. Those were union workers. Trumps anti union. But then so are they. But that’s a whole other conversation.

Trumps angle is brilliant

I'd guess the logic there is something like.... would you have supported a bad economy in Germany when Hitler first got into power, that then saw him get kicked out of power forever, or preferred the economy getting better, as it did (for a while) during Hitler's time?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The market will work itself out.,

Right now, it weakens Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

I'd guess the logic there is something like.... would you have supported a bad economy in Germany when Hitler first got into power, that then saw him get kicked out of power forever, or preferred the economy getting better, as it did (for a while) during Hitler's time?

And honestly, the economy was great under Biden. For people it wasn’t, they were doing the right thing. Organizing.

But republicans said it didn’t feel like a good economy. But today, with a crashing stock market they feel like we are on the right track. That’s cause trumps a great con man

 

[frigidweirdo]

And honestly, the economy was great under Biden. For people it wasn’t, they were doing the right thing. Organizing.

But republicans said it didn’t feel like a good economy. But today, with a crashing stock market they feel like we are on the right track. That’s cause trumps a great con man

Yep, anything that goes well is Trump's success, anything bad, he'll try and pass the blame off to someone else. It's ridiculous and so obvious.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Except-

We don't count fetuses on the Census
You can't claim a fetus on a tax form as a dependent
We don't charge women with murder for having abortions.

So it's clearly not murder.

Because the census is limited in the way it's structured, it asks for the person's date of birth, that's the qualifier to be on the census. If it asked for approximate date of conception for foetuses, then that data could then be gathered too, but it doesn't.

 

[sealybobo]

Yep, anything that goes well is Trump's success, anything bad, he'll try and pass the blame off to someone else. It's ridiculous and so obvious.

Elon is the fall guy. I love it! He’s like the my pillow guy, Rudy, Michael Cohen, Sidney Powell, etc.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Elon is the fall guy. I love it! He’s like the my pillow guy, Rudy, Michael Cohen, Sidney Powell, etc.

I'm sure Musk will then pass the buck too

 

[sealybobo]

I'm sure Musk will then pass the buck too

To the woman in Mexico who is actually in charge of the doge?

 

[frigidweirdo]

To the woman in Mexico who is actually in charge of the doge?

Who knows? All I know is that Musk spends a lot of money on presenting himself as a nice guy with a nice family and who lives in a small house and never does anything wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Because the census is limited in the way it's structured, it asks for the person's date of birth, that's the qualifier to be on the census. If it asked for approximate date of conception for foetuses, then that data could then be gathered too, but it doesn't.

Nope, it doesn't ask for them because fetuses aren't people.

Period. Full stop.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nope, it doesn't ask for them because fetuses aren't people.

Period. Full stop.

Full stop.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nope, it doesn't ask for them because fetuses aren't people.

Period. Full stop.

It asks for a date of birth. If you think a foetus is not a person, you're thicker than my kitchen worktop. Are you expecting a cat to be suddenly born?

 

[Correll]

I totally get it now. And I’m not going to use an argument each side uses when it’s convenient. “You have a 401k too right?” I’m not going to do that. The market will come back. We need to bring vital manufacturing back to America. We can’t rely on China.

And we need to stop the flow of illegals. I wish they’d go after illegal employers because there’s more than one way to come to America. Visitor visa? Student visas? Come to visit cousin, stay.

Image if one of the big unions fought to protect it's members from rules requiring proper use of pronouns?

Trump is old. MAGA, has a lot of old rust belt dems in it, that could be open to looking at unions in a friendlier light.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It asks for a date of birth. If you think a foetus is not a person, you're thicker than my kitchen worktop. Are you expecting a cat to be suddenly born?

A foetus has no independent personhood in the law.

 

[Correll]

A foetus has no independent personhood in the law.

Neither did slaves.

 

[JoeB131]

It asks for a date of birth. If you think a foetus is not a person, you're thicker than my kitchen worktop. Are you expecting a cat to be suddenly born?

Fetuses aren't people because we don't count them as people and we don't charge doctors with murder for killing them.

At least not yet.

 

[JoeB131]

A foetus has no independent personhood in the law.

Neither did slaves.

That isn't true, either.

In fact, people were charged and sometimes even executed for murdering their slaves.

“for the murder of his own female slave, a woman named Mira...” : Law, Slavery and Incoherence in Antebellum North Carolina

openyls.law.yale.edu

 

[Couchpotato]

fetuses aren't people.
Abortions will happen no matter what the law is.

You can say that about literally every law we have that outlaws some behavior. If you couldn't our jails would be empty. That someone will break a law isnt reason to not have it.

 

[Couchpotato]

Except-

We don't count fetuses on the Census
You can't claim a fetus on a tax form as a dependent
We don't charge women with murder for having abortions.

So it's clearly not murder.

But we could. That we dont doesnt mean anything. It's just a decision we have made.