Debt Limit…….Let’s put a Work Requirement on CONGRESS!

[Catsnmeters]

I claimed Barry was the worst in racking up debt. More than any other President. You said that was a lie.

Prove it, Dumbass.

You said the two presidents I listed confirmed your point. I want to know how you came to that conclusion based on such limited data. It must be some crazy chaos math or something and it has me curious.

Think of it as a pedagogical moment.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Catsnmeters]

They passed a bill in April, with provisions unsupported by Democrats,and they have had a tantrum and whined about potential default for the last couple months. This was after the democratically controlled House punted the problem over to Republicans as their term ended in 2022.

Why would Republicans add provisions to cover money already spent?

 

[struth]

Which party typically spends more?

that difficult to say, the vast overwhelming of our spending is mandated spending from social security, medicare and medicaid…thst the demafasict won’t even consider reforming

so it’s their fault

 

[Catsnmeters]

that difficult to say, the vast overwhelming of our spending is mandated spending from social security, medicare and medicaid…thst the demafasict won’t even consider reforming

so it’s their fault

Lol. That is about third grade level logic.

Democrats want to lower the defense budget but Republicans won't even consider it

so it's their fault.

That aside, can you define what entitlement reforming means? Specifics.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Yep, biden is hijacking the country.

 

[struth]

Lol. That is about third grade level logic.

Democrats want to lower the defense budget but Republicans won't even consider it

so it's their fault.

That aside, can you define what entitlement reforming means? Specifics.

The Defense Budget isn't a large driving force of the debt...the biggest driver of debt is what I mentioned...even Obama has admitted that

reforming entitlement programs...what don't you understand about it? reforming them so they are substainable, workable and lasting....one minor reform could be work requirements....but the big one would be shifting SS to a more Swedish model, in my honest opinion

 

[Catsnmeters]

Yep, biden is hijacking the country.

How is he doing that? He is ready to raise the debt ceiling and cover money already spent.

How is that hijacking?

 

[Nostra]

You said the two presidents I listed confirmed your point. I want to know how you came to that conclusion based on such limited data. It must be some crazy chaos math or something and it has me curious.

Think of it as a pedagogical moment.

I accept your admission I was 100% correct, and you lied when you called me a liar.

Dismissed, Simp.

 

[Catsnmeters]

The Defense Budget isn't a large driving force of the debt...the biggest driver of debt is what I mentioned...even Obama has admitted that

It's not the biggest but it is relatively close.

Lowering the defense budget would certainly go a long ways toward lowering the deficit.

Did you ever figure out what reforming entitlements involves?

 

[Nostra]

The rich paid a higher percentage of the total tax bill AFTER the Trump across the board tax cuts, Simp.

Grow a brain and try to think for yourself.

 

[struth]

It's not the biggest but it is relatively close.

Lowering the defense budget would certainly go a long ways toward lowering the deficit.

Did you ever figure out what reforming entitlements involves?

yes, they are the biggest drivers of Debt...and it's not even close.

Sure, lowering the defense budget might help, for one year, or two...but not long term
"Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt by a huge margin." - Obama

Obama says Medicare and Medicaid are largest deficit drivers. Yes, over the long term.

During a town hall on health care, an audience member asked President Barack Obama about the cost of health care reform,

www.politifact.com

Yes reform can mean anything that brings change. Some minor ones would be work requirements....a major one would be to turn SS in to the Swedish model.

 

[struth]

The rich paid a higher percentage of the total tax bill AFTER the Trump across the board tax cuts, Simp.

Grow a brain and try to think for yourself.

if they could think for themselves, they wouldn't be dembots....and simply parrot some meme that some propagandist feed them

 

[Catsnmeters]

I accept your admission I was 100% correct, and you lied when you called me a liar.

Dismissed, Simp.

Lol. Ahh Nostra, you're so fun.

I know what you meant but I was just curious what kind of poster you were. If you could admit your comment made little to no sense and make the correction so we could move on...but that didn't happen. You buckled down. Now I know you better. Thanks for that.

Let's just get the remainder of of our conversation over with so we can both focus on other things. It's a longer read this post but will save us both time in the long run.

I claim that Roosevelt had the most debt.

You say Obama did based on total dollars and call me a simp.

I call you simp right back and say total dollars is useless due to increasing inflation over the last couple hundred years and basing it on dollar amount makes no sense because then it would always belong to modern presidents.

You call me a simp, keep your post simple and say something, like you were right then.

I explain that basing it on a percentage of debt makes more sense and evens the playing field over the years. I add also that some presidents, like Trump for instance only served 4 years in office to Obama's 8 so that is something to consider. I will, of course call you a simp.

You will call me a simp again and keep your reply short and insulting. Something along the lines of 'so I was right and you can't admit, Obama this and that...'


I will call you a simp and probably some other underhanded insult, and tell you to have a nice day.

You respond by calling me a simp.

I don't respond but will like your post.

All done.

If you don't have anything to add to the above can you just call me a simp and we can end this?

 

[multivita-man]

Look at the annual deficit spending and that will tell you. Democrats raise taxes and spend, Republicans lower taxes and lower deficit spending.

Nah

 

[Catsnmeters]

yes, they are the biggest drivers of Debt...and it's not even close.

Sure, lowering the defense budget might help, for one year, or two...but not long term
"Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt by a huge margin." - Obama

Obama says Medicare and Medicaid are largest deficit drivers. Yes, over the long term.

During a town hall on health care, an audience member asked President Barack Obama about the cost of health care reform,

www.politifact.com

Yes reform can mean anything that brings change. Some minor ones would be work requirements....a major one would be to turn SS in to the Swedish model.

Just like defense spending, entitlement spending would have to be considerably lower as well...in perpetuity.

Isn't Sweden a socialist country? I am not familiar with their model. Can you explain it in 2 or 3 sentences or should I look it up?

 

[jotathought]

Why would Republicans add provisions to cover money already spent?

Same reason the Democrats have done in the past, and it represents the maximum limit on outstanding debt the Treasury Department can incur for financing the government -- regardless if funds have already been spent or will be spent in the future. It's focused on the accumulated debt from the past, present and future deficits.

 

[struth]

Just like defense spending, entitlement spending would have to be considerably lower as well...in perpetuity.

Isn't Sweden a socialist country? I am not familiar with their model. Can you explain it in 2 or 3 sentences or should I look it up?

well the difference is one is discretionary, and one is mandatory. Do you not understand the difference?


No Sweden isn't a socialist country...the dembots claim it is, and we need to reform our SS system like they did to save it...https://www.cato.org/commentary/how-sweden-saved-social-security

 

[Catsnmeters]

Same reason the Democrats have done in the past, and it represents the maximum limit on outstanding debt the Treasury Department can incur for financing the government -- regardless if funds have already been spent or will be spent in the future. It's focused on the accumulated debt from the past, present and future deficits.

Yeah, but the money has been spent. That is what the debt ceiling is about. You don't spend the money and then decide you don't want to cover it. Would that work with your credit card?

Can't Repubs save their budget ideas for budgetary bills?

 

[Catsnmeters]

well the difference is one is discretionary, and one is mandatory. Do you not understand the difference?


No Sweden isn't a socialist country...the dembots claim it is, and we need to reform our SS system like they did to save it...https://www.cato.org/commentary/how-sweden-saved-social-security

Grassley seems to disagree with you.

Is Sweden socialist or not?

"Grassley: Socialism Didn't Work For Sweden. It Won't Work For The U.S. Either."

Grassley: Socialism Didn't Work for Sweden. It Won't Work for the U.S. Either. | U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa

Prepared Floor Remarks by U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of IowaSocialism Didn’t Work for Sweden. It...

www.grassley.senate.gov

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out later after work.