Creeping Socialism

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I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.
 
does anyone still pay inheritance tax? Last I heard it was under 1% that paid any inheritance tax or somesuch low number.

You might also want to check out my other post about Wyoming Republicans wanting to tax the wind.
 
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does anyone still pay inheritance tax? Last I heard it was under 1% that paid any inheritance tax or somesuch low number.

You might also want to check out my other post about Wyoming Republicans wanting to tax the wind.

Are you trying to say that they are communist because they want to tax the wind? When did Karl Marx say that taxing the wind was needed to create a socialist society? He did say that a progressive income tax is needed to create a socialist society and who are the people that complain the rich ain't taxed enough? Who hates everything about lowering or removing the income tax completely? It could be a coincidence between those that advocate for this kind of tax and the fact that the only political movement in the world that also advocated for this kind of tax were communist but who else other than Karl Marx came up with this tax?

You can come up with all your reasons why your progressive income tax has different origins and reasons than the communist manifesto but I can't think of any so please stop denying yourselves to everyone and just embrace who you are.

I know only 1% of the population pays it but where did that idea come from but are you saying that because only 1% pays it that it doesn't exist? Its clearly a law that legally applies to everyone who happens to qaulifies for it and not just to 1% of everyone.
 
I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

no one told me about the revolution, those bastards!

So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?
 
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I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

no one told me about the revolution, those bastards!

So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?

They didn't tell you because it should have be obvious to everyone.
 
I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

no one told me about the revolution, those bastards!

So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?

They didn't tell you because it should have be obvious to everyone.

you just said they were doing it in a invisible way, so really you are saying they are not doing it in an obvious way.
 
I have a company that sells/constructs 2012 rated disaster shelters. If they do not protect you from the end of the world you get your money back.

The concept of insurance with group risks is socialistic as well. Ban all insurance and make each pay for their own illenss/accidents/loss.
 
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I do believe that our country is turning towards socialism a little bit at a time - slowly. The biggest notable turn in that direction has come with the Obama Administration. I think this is why people are making so much noise. They have just figured it all out. If we don't toss out an anchor and stop the move towards socialism within in the next generation, America will be a full socialist country.
 
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no one told me about the revolution, those bastards!

So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?

They didn't tell you because it should have be obvious to everyone.

you just said they were doing it in a invisible way, so really you are saying they are not doing it in an obvious way.

Its only invisible because we have been trained not to see it but no matter what it should be obvious by now.
 
I have a company that sells/constructs 2012 rated disaster shelters. If they do not protect you from the end of the world you get your money back.

Won't need them. You guys are on your way out in 2010 and 2012. Hooray!!!
 
Yep, Make each childs parents pay for their education.

Why should people with no children pay school tax?

Darn commies.
 
I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

Be assured there will be no Communist revolution in the US.

There may be some policy and legislative changes but they'll go through the normal democratic channels. And if sufficient people don't like those changes they will vote accordingly and perhaps legislators will be returned who will reverse those changes.

Obama is not a socialist, you will not be a socialist country any time soon.

OF ALL THE inane accusations about President Obama, the silliest has to be this:

The president is a socialist.

Obama's plans are "one big down payment on a new American socialist experiment," asserts House minority leader John Boehner. He's "the world's best salesman of socialism," says Republican Senator Jim DeMint.

"Lenin and Stalin would love this stuff," declares Mike Huckabee. Sean Hannity derides his agenda as "socialism you can believe in." Obama is "a radical communist," warns kooky Alan Keyes.

"Epithets are substituting for thinking," observes Marc Landy, professor of political science at Boston College.

Are they ever.

More at link - Obama a socialist? Not quite - The Boston Globe
 
It all began with public education and public roads, bridges, public buildings, etc.

Its to bad that so many communist repeat such narrow talking points such as what you posted above. It has everyone convinced that public expenditures of any kind is "socialism" but hitler also built public roads and so did the writers of the constitution. Are they both socialist? Of course not but there is difference between the two ideas about the role of government in society. Hitler, Stalin, Wilson, Mussilini, and Teddy Rosevelt all believed that government was a communal leader of society and this thinking created the fascist dictatorships there and over here.
 
I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

Be assured there will be no Communist revolution in the US.

There may be some policy and legislative changes but they'll go through the normal democratic channels. And if sufficient people don't like those changes they will vote accordingly and perhaps legislators will be returned who will reverse those changes.

Obama is not a socialist, you will not be a socialist country any time soon.

OF ALL THE inane accusations about President Obama, the silliest has to be this:

The president is a socialist.

Obama's plans are "one big down payment on a new American socialist experiment," asserts House minority leader John Boehner. He's "the world's best salesman of socialism," says Republican Senator Jim DeMint.

"Lenin and Stalin would love this stuff," declares Mike Huckabee. Sean Hannity derides his agenda as "socialism you can believe in." Obama is "a radical communist," warns kooky Alan Keyes.

"Epithets are substituting for thinking," observes Marc Landy, professor of political science at Boston College.

Are they ever.

More at link - Obama a socialist? Not quite - The Boston Globe

LOL.

That is really pathatic when every other communist leader in the world praises his revolution and they sell Obama/mao shirts in China and just because the boston globe said it doesn't make it true. Try thinking on your own in the future instead of parathinking someone else's thoughts.
 
no one told me about the revolution, those bastards! So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state…"

Karl Marx

So , do you know if the Marxists are wresting by degree capital from the bourgeoisie?
 
It all began with public education and public roads, bridges, public buildings, etc.

Its to bad that so many communist repeat such narrow talking points such as what you posted above. It has everyone convinced that public expenditures of any kind is "socialism" but hitler also built public roads and so did the writers of the constitution. Are they both socialist? Of course not but there is difference between the two ideas about the role of government in society. Hitler, Stalin, Wilson, Mussilini, and Teddy Rosevelt all believed that government was a communal leader of society and this thinking created the fascist dictatorships there and over here.

So what I listed is not socialistic?

Remmeber it all begins small and grows.
 
I really do believe that the left is trying to forment a communist revolution in this country but they are doing it in an almost invisible way because they have been able to obfuscate what has been happening in this country for over the past hundred years. Everytime we accuse them of this terrible crime they either alter the definition of the word socialism to something that sounds appealing to the public. This has been happening every generation until the point where we no longer realize what it is so we can't identify what it is. Its like trying to point out something to other people when that thing doesn't even have a name or definition.

A good example is the progressive income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax. We are told by the left that this tax isn't communist but its origins come right out of the communist manifesto and every communist country has had at least one of these in place. Yet, we are not suppose to notice this and pretend that it isn't communism? I think we are living under a big lie that has been creeping into our thinking for a long time until now where we actually do have a communist in power and don't even realize it.

Be assured there will be no Communist revolution in the US.

There may be some policy and legislative changes but they'll go through the normal democratic channels. And if sufficient people don't like those changes they will vote accordingly and perhaps legislators will be returned who will reverse those changes.

Obama is not a socialist, you will not be a socialist country any time soon.

OF ALL THE inane accusations about President Obama, the silliest has to be this:

The president is a socialist.

Obama's plans are "one big down payment on a new American socialist experiment," asserts House minority leader John Boehner. He's "the world's best salesman of socialism," says Republican Senator Jim DeMint.

"Lenin and Stalin would love this stuff," declares Mike Huckabee. Sean Hannity derides his agenda as "socialism you can believe in." Obama is "a radical communist," warns kooky Alan Keyes.

"Epithets are substituting for thinking," observes Marc Landy, professor of political science at Boston College.

Are they ever.

More at link - Obama a socialist? Not quite - The Boston Globe

LOL.

That is really pathatic when every other communist leader in the world praises his revolution and they sell Obama/mao shirts in China and just because the boston globe said it doesn't make it true. Try thinking on your own in the future instead of parathinking someone else's thoughts.

Just putting a view and then linking to someone else to extend the view.

I think you might not understand what a "revolution" is though if you think Obama has a "revolution".
 
no one told me about the revolution, those bastards! So do you live in a bomb shelter in your mom's back yard?

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state…"

Karl Marx

So , do you know if the Marxists are wresting by degree capital from the bourgeoisie?

Marx referred to the proletariat, not "Marxists". Vanguard theory comes from elsewhere I think. The proletariat in the US is definitely not anywhere near this path. Therefore the answer is no.
 

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