Covid-19 will re-elect Trump

[Slade3200]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

There was little chance of Trump winning even before the spread of this virus. Donald Trump is an impeached President. He should have stopped international Travel back in early February when it was clear this was probably going to happen and the United States already had its first cases. But his administration was asleep at the wheel and now the country is on lockdown. The Presidents own advisors predict unemployment will rise to over 20%. This won't be a recession, it will be an economic depression that will rival the one from the 1930s. Trump is way behind when it comes to testing, travel restrictions, social distancing, and stay in place orders. A month to two months behind. That's why we have 20,000 cases now and 276 deaths. Russia, a country that borders china only has 250 cases and one death. Russia closed its borders back in January/February. That's a big part of the reason for the vastly different figures. Trump will be easily defeated in November. His failures have led to the shut down of the largest economy in the world for months and maybe even years. His inaction and downplaying of the problem has unnecessarily risked the lives of millions of Americans.

A pandemic was going to spark an economic downturn. If it looks like America did well, compared to other first world nations, the voters should not, and may not hold the President responsible.

As of now we look to be the embarrassment of the world when it comes to the handling of the Coronavirus. Right there with Brazil. Can you name any other country that’s doing worse?

As of now, I have no faith in any of the numbers reported. The politics of it all, have tainted the information gathering and I don't trust any of the data, and have not for quite some time.


I will point out that you people have been hysterical about Trump since he was elected, and to pretend that you are upset about him BECAUSE of his supposedly so bad handling of this issue, is utter bullshit.

Hysterical is hyperbole. I don’t think Trump is a good leader and I’m very critical of him. If my criticism is unwarranted then it should be able to be beaten through debate yet most people here don’t engage in debate they just dismiss my critiques by say TDS. That’s weak.

Regarding COVID. All you need to do is look at the hospitals, and body counts that are piling up. Go talk to doctors and nurses in Florida and Texas. Check out the morgues and see the refrigeration trucks being brought in to handle the bodies.

Then you tell me how throwing doubt, downplaying, and ignoring safety protocol is a good thing. Cause from my eyes I’d rather take the numbers seriously and be safe instead of being that idiot not taking it seriously and spreading a deadly virus that is killing Americans. It’s a no brainer to me. If EVERYBODY just swallowed their ego and locked down by following the CDC guidelines we Could knock this thing out in a few weeks. It’s a national embarrassment that we are in the position we are in and covering your eyes is not going to make things better.

The guidelines encourage guessing as to what is a Covid Death. AND then on top of they offer extra money if the death is "covid".


The numbers are inflated.

Can you admit that?

I’m not on the front lines so I can’t say. It wouldn’t surprise me if some deaths got marked as Covid when they weren’t.... errors happen all the time. I don’t think it’s realistic to think there is a widespread conspiracy going on. That’s ridiculous. With all that said... we still have hospitals filling up and morgues over flowing in Florida and Texas. Can you admit that? Can you explain it?

Why is it ridiculous? Over half the doctors think that Trump is basically "Hitler" and that making him look bad is thus a far more important "Good" than any ethical or professional responsibility they have to tell the Truth.

Are you pretending that your side didn't swear to "RESIST" in every possible way, for the next 4 years to make sue that no one got to thinking this was "normal"?

Over half the doctors think Trump is basically “Hitler”?! Haha ok, wow, now I know you are just pulling shit out of your ass. Did you run a poll or call up all the doctors personally to get that stat?!
....

Your half f the country has been saying that shit for the last 4 years. If you don't believe it, why are you saying it?


If you say it, and believe it, then expecting people to do shit to RESIST, is completely reasonable.


I've had plenty of liberals tell me that they would do stuff LIKE that, because the political divide between them, the good people, and us, the supposedly bad people was so great, and we were so "Bad" that taking steps against us, would be justified, because "wacism" or "whites supremacy" or some such bullshit.

I’ve never said that Trump was Hitler and I don’t have a “half”. If you can’t have a one on one discussion with me without using weak stereotypes of what some imaginary team that you think I’m on has said then I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Are you done with the games or are we done with the debate?

Good for you. Now, are you pretending you missed all of those on the Left who were pushing that viewpoint and acknowledge that it is likely that a significant portion of the nation, bought into the worst case scenario they were pushing.

Of course I’m not pretending to have missed it... Ive seen plenty of idiots on the Left say false hyperbolic and political lies about Trump. But that has nothing to do with me or with what we are talking about so why are you shifting it to the focus of this discussion?! it certainly does not define half of all doctors like you falsely claimed as justification to your unfounded assertion that doctors are conspiring to lie about COVID stats. I know many doctors and most are Republican supporters of Trump. To say that half think he is Hitler and are willing to lie and risk their freedom and careers to pad some stats is just idiotic.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling to capacity in Florida, Arizona and Texas. Do you have a direct answer?

There is no risk. NO one is going to hold them accountable. The official guidelines state that guessing is allowed. EVen if someone were to call them on their behavior, and no one will, their asses are covered.


Your pretense that the nation is not evenly divided is not credible.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling in Florida and Texas

Yep you did say that. You also said other shit. YOu want to focus on something, then focus. When you throw a bunch of shit against a wall, I get to pick what I respond to.


No one is going to hold them accountable. And if anyone tried, their asses are covered by the official guidelines. And anyone that tried, gets dogpiled by people like you.

Why are you dishonestly pretending that is not true?

I’m pretending it’s not true. It just isn’t. I’m sure there are human errors and I’m sure there is fraud. I hope both are identified. I just read an article that Trump cut off the CDC from be responsible for the hospital numbers and that info will no longer be made public. I’m sure if they find something shady in what’s being reported then Trump will be the first to blow it and take cover behind the fall out. I’m also sure there are plenty ty of investigative journalists looking into the issue. So there is ole ty of accountability out there that I hope is applied if necessary.

That was a focused and thoughtful answer the the topic YOU asked about. How about you return the effort and give the question I’ve asked you the same attention and respect...

what do you think of the fact that hospitals and morgues in Texas and Florida are overcrowding? What do you think is causing it if the COVID numbers aren’t accurate?

I have no faith in the media investigating shit.

At a guess, I don't know. I've lost all faith in all numbers on this for quite some time. We know that hysteria and panics effect the ability to think and act rationally and on top of the we have massive partisan motive.



Could easily be doctors "erring" on the side of caution and slapping patients into ICU excessively. Could be data collectors lying. Could be reporters lying.


We've seen worse from liberals before.

Ok, it could be all those things OR it could be that people are getting sick and dying and a serious disease is Spreading through our country. Why people aren’t proceeding on the side of caution and instead are acting like jackasses is beyond belief.

just consider for a second that the numbers in Texas and Florida are not being faked. And these Trump supporting Republican governors Who are now reversing their openings are doing so because they actually have a serious public health situation to deal with. Perhaps it better to just suck it up and act responsibly for a bit. Make sense?

 

[Correll]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

There was little chance of Trump winning even before the spread of this virus. Donald Trump is an impeached President. He should have stopped international Travel back in early February when it was clear this was probably going to happen and the United States already had its first cases. But his administration was asleep at the wheel and now the country is on lockdown. The Presidents own advisors predict unemployment will rise to over 20%. This won't be a recession, it will be an economic depression that will rival the one from the 1930s. Trump is way behind when it comes to testing, travel restrictions, social distancing, and stay in place orders. A month to two months behind. That's why we have 20,000 cases now and 276 deaths. Russia, a country that borders china only has 250 cases and one death. Russia closed its borders back in January/February. That's a big part of the reason for the vastly different figures. Trump will be easily defeated in November. His failures have led to the shut down of the largest economy in the world for months and maybe even years. His inaction and downplaying of the problem has unnecessarily risked the lives of millions of Americans.

A pandemic was going to spark an economic downturn. If it looks like America did well, compared to other first world nations, the voters should not, and may not hold the President responsible.

As of now we look to be the embarrassment of the world when it comes to the handling of the Coronavirus. Right there with Brazil. Can you name any other country that’s doing worse?

As of now, I have no faith in any of the numbers reported. The politics of it all, have tainted the information gathering and I don't trust any of the data, and have not for quite some time.


I will point out that you people have been hysterical about Trump since he was elected, and to pretend that you are upset about him BECAUSE of his supposedly so bad handling of this issue, is utter bullshit.

Hysterical is hyperbole. I don’t think Trump is a good leader and I’m very critical of him. If my criticism is unwarranted then it should be able to be beaten through debate yet most people here don’t engage in debate they just dismiss my critiques by say TDS. That’s weak.

Regarding COVID. All you need to do is look at the hospitals, and body counts that are piling up. Go talk to doctors and nurses in Florida and Texas. Check out the morgues and see the refrigeration trucks being brought in to handle the bodies.

Then you tell me how throwing doubt, downplaying, and ignoring safety protocol is a good thing. Cause from my eyes I’d rather take the numbers seriously and be safe instead of being that idiot not taking it seriously and spreading a deadly virus that is killing Americans. It’s a no brainer to me. If EVERYBODY just swallowed their ego and locked down by following the CDC guidelines we Could knock this thing out in a few weeks. It’s a national embarrassment that we are in the position we are in and covering your eyes is not going to make things better.

The guidelines encourage guessing as to what is a Covid Death. AND then on top of they offer extra money if the death is "covid".


The numbers are inflated.

Can you admit that?

I’m not on the front lines so I can’t say. It wouldn’t surprise me if some deaths got marked as Covid when they weren’t.... errors happen all the time. I don’t think it’s realistic to think there is a widespread conspiracy going on. That’s ridiculous. With all that said... we still have hospitals filling up and morgues over flowing in Florida and Texas. Can you admit that? Can you explain it?

Why is it ridiculous? Over half the doctors think that Trump is basically "Hitler" and that making him look bad is thus a far more important "Good" than any ethical or professional responsibility they have to tell the Truth.

Are you pretending that your side didn't swear to "RESIST" in every possible way, for the next 4 years to make sue that no one got to thinking this was "normal"?

Over half the doctors think Trump is basically “Hitler”?! Haha ok, wow, now I know you are just pulling shit out of your ass. Did you run a poll or call up all the doctors personally to get that stat?!
....

Your half f the country has been saying that shit for the last 4 years. If you don't believe it, why are you saying it?


If you say it, and believe it, then expecting people to do shit to RESIST, is completely reasonable.


I've had plenty of liberals tell me that they would do stuff LIKE that, because the political divide between them, the good people, and us, the supposedly bad people was so great, and we were so "Bad" that taking steps against us, would be justified, because "wacism" or "whites supremacy" or some such bullshit.

I’ve never said that Trump was Hitler and I don’t have a “half”. If you can’t have a one on one discussion with me without using weak stereotypes of what some imaginary team that you think I’m on has said then I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Are you done with the games or are we done with the debate?

Good for you. Now, are you pretending you missed all of those on the Left who were pushing that viewpoint and acknowledge that it is likely that a significant portion of the nation, bought into the worst case scenario they were pushing.

Of course I’m not pretending to have missed it... Ive seen plenty of idiots on the Left say false hyperbolic and political lies about Trump. But that has nothing to do with me or with what we are talking about so why are you shifting it to the focus of this discussion?! it certainly does not define half of all doctors like you falsely claimed as justification to your unfounded assertion that doctors are conspiring to lie about COVID stats. I know many doctors and most are Republican supporters of Trump. To say that half think he is Hitler and are willing to lie and risk their freedom and careers to pad some stats is just idiotic.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling to capacity in Florida, Arizona and Texas. Do you have a direct answer?

There is no risk. NO one is going to hold them accountable. The official guidelines state that guessing is allowed. EVen if someone were to call them on their behavior, and no one will, their asses are covered.


Your pretense that the nation is not evenly divided is not credible.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling in Florida and Texas

Yep you did say that. You also said other shit. YOu want to focus on something, then focus. When you throw a bunch of shit against a wall, I get to pick what I respond to.


No one is going to hold them accountable. And if anyone tried, their asses are covered by the official guidelines. And anyone that tried, gets dogpiled by people like you.

Why are you dishonestly pretending that is not true?

I’m pretending it’s not true. It just isn’t. I’m sure there are human errors and I’m sure there is fraud. I hope both are identified. I just read an article that Trump cut off the CDC from be responsible for the hospital numbers and that info will no longer be made public. I’m sure if they find something shady in what’s being reported then Trump will be the first to blow it and take cover behind the fall out. I’m also sure there are plenty ty of investigative journalists looking into the issue. So there is ole ty of accountability out there that I hope is applied if necessary.

That was a focused and thoughtful answer the the topic YOU asked about. How about you return the effort and give the question I’ve asked you the same attention and respect...

what do you think of the fact that hospitals and morgues in Texas and Florida are overcrowding? What do you think is causing it if the COVID numbers aren’t accurate?

I have no faith in the media investigating shit.

At a guess, I don't know. I've lost all faith in all numbers on this for quite some time. We know that hysteria and panics effect the ability to think and act rationally and on top of the we have massive partisan motive.



Could easily be doctors "erring" on the side of caution and slapping patients into ICU excessively. Could be data collectors lying. Could be reporters lying.


We've seen worse from liberals before.

Ok, it could be all those things OR it could be that people are getting sick and dying and a serious disease is Spreading through our country. Why people aren’t proceeding on the side of caution and instead are acting like jackasses is beyond belief.

just consider for a second that the numbers in Texas and Florida are not being faked. And these Trump supporting Republican governors Who are now reversing their openings are doing so because they actually have a serious public health situation to deal with. Perhaps it better to just suck it up and act responsibly for a bit. Make sense?

1. We have been proceeding on the side of caution, to an extent I have not seen in my lifetime. For far longer than I would have believed possible.

2. AND, I want to add, if the media has no credibility, that was their choice. THey choose to shit can it, to give support to the dems. and the lib agenda. This is on them.

 

[Slade3200]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

There was little chance of Trump winning even before the spread of this virus. Donald Trump is an impeached President. He should have stopped international Travel back in early February when it was clear this was probably going to happen and the United States already had its first cases. But his administration was asleep at the wheel and now the country is on lockdown. The Presidents own advisors predict unemployment will rise to over 20%. This won't be a recession, it will be an economic depression that will rival the one from the 1930s. Trump is way behind when it comes to testing, travel restrictions, social distancing, and stay in place orders. A month to two months behind. That's why we have 20,000 cases now and 276 deaths. Russia, a country that borders china only has 250 cases and one death. Russia closed its borders back in January/February. That's a big part of the reason for the vastly different figures. Trump will be easily defeated in November. His failures have led to the shut down of the largest economy in the world for months and maybe even years. His inaction and downplaying of the problem has unnecessarily risked the lives of millions of Americans.

A pandemic was going to spark an economic downturn. If it looks like America did well, compared to other first world nations, the voters should not, and may not hold the President responsible.

As of now we look to be the embarrassment of the world when it comes to the handling of the Coronavirus. Right there with Brazil. Can you name any other country that’s doing worse?

As of now, I have no faith in any of the numbers reported. The politics of it all, have tainted the information gathering and I don't trust any of the data, and have not for quite some time.


I will point out that you people have been hysterical about Trump since he was elected, and to pretend that you are upset about him BECAUSE of his supposedly so bad handling of this issue, is utter bullshit.

Hysterical is hyperbole. I don’t think Trump is a good leader and I’m very critical of him. If my criticism is unwarranted then it should be able to be beaten through debate yet most people here don’t engage in debate they just dismiss my critiques by say TDS. That’s weak.

Regarding COVID. All you need to do is look at the hospitals, and body counts that are piling up. Go talk to doctors and nurses in Florida and Texas. Check out the morgues and see the refrigeration trucks being brought in to handle the bodies.

Then you tell me how throwing doubt, downplaying, and ignoring safety protocol is a good thing. Cause from my eyes I’d rather take the numbers seriously and be safe instead of being that idiot not taking it seriously and spreading a deadly virus that is killing Americans. It’s a no brainer to me. If EVERYBODY just swallowed their ego and locked down by following the CDC guidelines we Could knock this thing out in a few weeks. It’s a national embarrassment that we are in the position we are in and covering your eyes is not going to make things better.

The guidelines encourage guessing as to what is a Covid Death. AND then on top of they offer extra money if the death is "covid".


The numbers are inflated.

Can you admit that?

I’m not on the front lines so I can’t say. It wouldn’t surprise me if some deaths got marked as Covid when they weren’t.... errors happen all the time. I don’t think it’s realistic to think there is a widespread conspiracy going on. That’s ridiculous. With all that said... we still have hospitals filling up and morgues over flowing in Florida and Texas. Can you admit that? Can you explain it?

Why is it ridiculous? Over half the doctors think that Trump is basically "Hitler" and that making him look bad is thus a far more important "Good" than any ethical or professional responsibility they have to tell the Truth.

Are you pretending that your side didn't swear to "RESIST" in every possible way, for the next 4 years to make sue that no one got to thinking this was "normal"?

Over half the doctors think Trump is basically “Hitler”?! Haha ok, wow, now I know you are just pulling shit out of your ass. Did you run a poll or call up all the doctors personally to get that stat?!
....

Your half f the country has been saying that shit for the last 4 years. If you don't believe it, why are you saying it?


If you say it, and believe it, then expecting people to do shit to RESIST, is completely reasonable.


I've had plenty of liberals tell me that they would do stuff LIKE that, because the political divide between them, the good people, and us, the supposedly bad people was so great, and we were so "Bad" that taking steps against us, would be justified, because "wacism" or "whites supremacy" or some such bullshit.

I’ve never said that Trump was Hitler and I don’t have a “half”. If you can’t have a one on one discussion with me without using weak stereotypes of what some imaginary team that you think I’m on has said then I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Are you done with the games or are we done with the debate?

Good for you. Now, are you pretending you missed all of those on the Left who were pushing that viewpoint and acknowledge that it is likely that a significant portion of the nation, bought into the worst case scenario they were pushing.

Of course I’m not pretending to have missed it... Ive seen plenty of idiots on the Left say false hyperbolic and political lies about Trump. But that has nothing to do with me or with what we are talking about so why are you shifting it to the focus of this discussion?! it certainly does not define half of all doctors like you falsely claimed as justification to your unfounded assertion that doctors are conspiring to lie about COVID stats. I know many doctors and most are Republican supporters of Trump. To say that half think he is Hitler and are willing to lie and risk their freedom and careers to pad some stats is just idiotic.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling to capacity in Florida, Arizona and Texas. Do you have a direct answer?

There is no risk. NO one is going to hold them accountable. The official guidelines state that guessing is allowed. EVen if someone were to call them on their behavior, and no one will, their asses are covered.


Your pretense that the nation is not evenly divided is not credible.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling in Florida and Texas

Yep you did say that. You also said other shit. YOu want to focus on something, then focus. When you throw a bunch of shit against a wall, I get to pick what I respond to.


No one is going to hold them accountable. And if anyone tried, their asses are covered by the official guidelines. And anyone that tried, gets dogpiled by people like you.

Why are you dishonestly pretending that is not true?

I’m pretending it’s not true. It just isn’t. I’m sure there are human errors and I’m sure there is fraud. I hope both are identified. I just read an article that Trump cut off the CDC from be responsible for the hospital numbers and that info will no longer be made public. I’m sure if they find something shady in what’s being reported then Trump will be the first to blow it and take cover behind the fall out. I’m also sure there are plenty ty of investigative journalists looking into the issue. So there is ole ty of accountability out there that I hope is applied if necessary.

That was a focused and thoughtful answer the the topic YOU asked about. How about you return the effort and give the question I’ve asked you the same attention and respect...

what do you think of the fact that hospitals and morgues in Texas and Florida are overcrowding? What do you think is causing it if the COVID numbers aren’t accurate?

I have no faith in the media investigating shit.

At a guess, I don't know. I've lost all faith in all numbers on this for quite some time. We know that hysteria and panics effect the ability to think and act rationally and on top of the we have massive partisan motive.



Could easily be doctors "erring" on the side of caution and slapping patients into ICU excessively. Could be data collectors lying. Could be reporters lying.


We've seen worse from liberals before.

Ok, it could be all those things OR it could be that people are getting sick and dying and a serious disease is Spreading through our country. Why people aren’t proceeding on the side of caution and instead are acting like jackasses is beyond belief.

just consider for a second that the numbers in Texas and Florida are not being faked. And these Trump supporting Republican governors Who are now reversing their openings are doing so because they actually have a serious public health situation to deal with. Perhaps it better to just suck it up and act responsibly for a bit. Make sense?

1. We have been proceeding on the side of caution, to an extent I have not seen in my lifetime. For far longer than I would have believed possible.

2. AND, I want to add, if the media has no credibility, that was their choice. THey choose to shit can it, to give support to the dems. and the lib agenda. This is on them.

Good for you you should be cautious... I don’t see how talking the way your talking is helping things. The sentiments your expressing are shared by many who translate into action and that’s how thing thing is spreading.

Just saw a report that Miami hospital is out of ICU beds. Arizona has 600 nurses being sent in and refrigeration trucks to help the morgues. Why don’t you give them a call and see for yourself. Maybe then you’ll get on the right side of this thing.

 

[g5000]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Covid-19 will re-elect Trump

 

[FA_Q2]

When you live in a bubble....

 

[Ray9]

There are few examples more sleazy than the Democratic Party's strategy of attacking Trump for the Coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic. Can you imagine if in the 1950's Dwight Eisenhower had been assailed for exacerbating the Polio epidemic? Would the Democratic Party have been successful at putting Adlai Stevenson in the White House if it had accused Eisenhower of causing deaths and crippling of children during the Polio's heyday as a plague? These people are lower than sleazy and they are getting lower.

News | HISTORY

www.history.com

No Lockdowns: The Terrifying Polio Pandemic of 1949-52

What’s remarkable in light of the near-global coercive lockdown for COVID-19 is how the terrible and terrifying disease of polio was managed almost entirely by a private and voluntary system of health professionals, innovators, parental responsibility, localized caution, and individual volition...

www.aier.org

Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ray9]

By the way, the pandemic will re-elect Trump in 2024.

 

[Kondor3]

By the way, the pandemic will re-elect Trump in 2024.

He'll be dead of natural causes by then... or bankrupt... or both.

 

[Ray9]

By the way, the pandemic will re-elect Trump in 2024.

He'll be dead of natural causes by then... or bankrupt... or both.

Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, has all his wits about him unlike Biden-dream on.

 

[Correll]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

There was little chance of Trump winning even before the spread of this virus. Donald Trump is an impeached President. He should have stopped international Travel back in early February when it was clear this was probably going to happen and the United States already had its first cases. But his administration was asleep at the wheel and now the country is on lockdown. The Presidents own advisors predict unemployment will rise to over 20%. This won't be a recession, it will be an economic depression that will rival the one from the 1930s. Trump is way behind when it comes to testing, travel restrictions, social distancing, and stay in place orders. A month to two months behind. That's why we have 20,000 cases now and 276 deaths. Russia, a country that borders china only has 250 cases and one death. Russia closed its borders back in January/February. That's a big part of the reason for the vastly different figures. Trump will be easily defeated in November. His failures have led to the shut down of the largest economy in the world for months and maybe even years. His inaction and downplaying of the problem has unnecessarily risked the lives of millions of Americans.

A pandemic was going to spark an economic downturn. If it looks like America did well, compared to other first world nations, the voters should not, and may not hold the President responsible.

As of now we look to be the embarrassment of the world when it comes to the handling of the Coronavirus. Right there with Brazil. Can you name any other country that’s doing worse?

As of now, I have no faith in any of the numbers reported. The politics of it all, have tainted the information gathering and I don't trust any of the data, and have not for quite some time.


I will point out that you people have been hysterical about Trump since he was elected, and to pretend that you are upset about him BECAUSE of his supposedly so bad handling of this issue, is utter bullshit.

Hysterical is hyperbole. I don’t think Trump is a good leader and I’m very critical of him. If my criticism is unwarranted then it should be able to be beaten through debate yet most people here don’t engage in debate they just dismiss my critiques by say TDS. That’s weak.

Regarding COVID. All you need to do is look at the hospitals, and body counts that are piling up. Go talk to doctors and nurses in Florida and Texas. Check out the morgues and see the refrigeration trucks being brought in to handle the bodies.

Then you tell me how throwing doubt, downplaying, and ignoring safety protocol is a good thing. Cause from my eyes I’d rather take the numbers seriously and be safe instead of being that idiot not taking it seriously and spreading a deadly virus that is killing Americans. It’s a no brainer to me. If EVERYBODY just swallowed their ego and locked down by following the CDC guidelines we Could knock this thing out in a few weeks. It’s a national embarrassment that we are in the position we are in and covering your eyes is not going to make things better.

The guidelines encourage guessing as to what is a Covid Death. AND then on top of they offer extra money if the death is "covid".


The numbers are inflated.

Can you admit that?

I’m not on the front lines so I can’t say. It wouldn’t surprise me if some deaths got marked as Covid when they weren’t.... errors happen all the time. I don’t think it’s realistic to think there is a widespread conspiracy going on. That’s ridiculous. With all that said... we still have hospitals filling up and morgues over flowing in Florida and Texas. Can you admit that? Can you explain it?

Why is it ridiculous? Over half the doctors think that Trump is basically "Hitler" and that making him look bad is thus a far more important "Good" than any ethical or professional responsibility they have to tell the Truth.

Are you pretending that your side didn't swear to "RESIST" in every possible way, for the next 4 years to make sue that no one got to thinking this was "normal"?

Over half the doctors think Trump is basically “Hitler”?! Haha ok, wow, now I know you are just pulling shit out of your ass. Did you run a poll or call up all the doctors personally to get that stat?!
....

Your half f the country has been saying that shit for the last 4 years. If you don't believe it, why are you saying it?


If you say it, and believe it, then expecting people to do shit to RESIST, is completely reasonable.


I've had plenty of liberals tell me that they would do stuff LIKE that, because the political divide between them, the good people, and us, the supposedly bad people was so great, and we were so "Bad" that taking steps against us, would be justified, because "wacism" or "whites supremacy" or some such bullshit.

I’ve never said that Trump was Hitler and I don’t have a “half”. If you can’t have a one on one discussion with me without using weak stereotypes of what some imaginary team that you think I’m on has said then I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Are you done with the games or are we done with the debate?

Good for you. Now, are you pretending you missed all of those on the Left who were pushing that viewpoint and acknowledge that it is likely that a significant portion of the nation, bought into the worst case scenario they were pushing.

Of course I’m not pretending to have missed it... Ive seen plenty of idiots on the Left say false hyperbolic and political lies about Trump. But that has nothing to do with me or with what we are talking about so why are you shifting it to the focus of this discussion?! it certainly does not define half of all doctors like you falsely claimed as justification to your unfounded assertion that doctors are conspiring to lie about COVID stats. I know many doctors and most are Republican supporters of Trump. To say that half think he is Hitler and are willing to lie and risk their freedom and careers to pad some stats is just idiotic.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling to capacity in Florida, Arizona and Texas. Do you have a direct answer?

There is no risk. NO one is going to hold them accountable. The official guidelines state that guessing is allowed. EVen if someone were to call them on their behavior, and no one will, their asses are covered.


Your pretense that the nation is not evenly divided is not credible.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling in Florida and Texas

Yep you did say that. You also said other shit. YOu want to focus on something, then focus. When you throw a bunch of shit against a wall, I get to pick what I respond to.


No one is going to hold them accountable. And if anyone tried, their asses are covered by the official guidelines. And anyone that tried, gets dogpiled by people like you.

Why are you dishonestly pretending that is not true?

I’m pretending it’s not true. It just isn’t. I’m sure there are human errors and I’m sure there is fraud. I hope both are identified. I just read an article that Trump cut off the CDC from be responsible for the hospital numbers and that info will no longer be made public. I’m sure if they find something shady in what’s being reported then Trump will be the first to blow it and take cover behind the fall out. I’m also sure there are plenty ty of investigative journalists looking into the issue. So there is ole ty of accountability out there that I hope is applied if necessary.

That was a focused and thoughtful answer the the topic YOU asked about. How about you return the effort and give the question I’ve asked you the same attention and respect...

what do you think of the fact that hospitals and morgues in Texas and Florida are overcrowding? What do you think is causing it if the COVID numbers aren’t accurate?

I have no faith in the media investigating shit.

At a guess, I don't know. I've lost all faith in all numbers on this for quite some time. We know that hysteria and panics effect the ability to think and act rationally and on top of the we have massive partisan motive.



Could easily be doctors "erring" on the side of caution and slapping patients into ICU excessively. Could be data collectors lying. Could be reporters lying.


We've seen worse from liberals before.

Ok, it could be all those things OR it could be that people are getting sick and dying and a serious disease is Spreading through our country. Why people aren’t proceeding on the side of caution and instead are acting like jackasses is beyond belief.

just consider for a second that the numbers in Texas and Florida are not being faked. And these Trump supporting Republican governors Who are now reversing their openings are doing so because they actually have a serious public health situation to deal with. Perhaps it better to just suck it up and act responsibly for a bit. Make sense?

1. We have been proceeding on the side of caution, to an extent I have not seen in my lifetime. For far longer than I would have believed possible.

2. AND, I want to add, if the media has no credibility, that was their choice. THey choose to shit can it, to give support to the dems. and the lib agenda. This is on them.

Good for you you should be cautious... I don’t see how talking the way your talking is helping things. The sentiments your expressing are shared by many who translate into action and that’s how thing thing is spreading.

Just saw a report that Miami hospital is out of ICU beds. Arizona has 600 nurses being sent in and refrigeration trucks to help the morgues. Why don’t you give them a call and see for yourself. Maybe then you’ll get on the right side of this thing.

1. There is no rational consideration of cost to benefit on this "caution". It is politically motivated and counter productive.

2. Viruses spread. The plan was to flatten the curve. We did that in the first month. We were never supposed to go this long.

 

[Slade3200]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

There was little chance of Trump winning even before the spread of this virus. Donald Trump is an impeached President. He should have stopped international Travel back in early February when it was clear this was probably going to happen and the United States already had its first cases. But his administration was asleep at the wheel and now the country is on lockdown. The Presidents own advisors predict unemployment will rise to over 20%. This won't be a recession, it will be an economic depression that will rival the one from the 1930s. Trump is way behind when it comes to testing, travel restrictions, social distancing, and stay in place orders. A month to two months behind. That's why we have 20,000 cases now and 276 deaths. Russia, a country that borders china only has 250 cases and one death. Russia closed its borders back in January/February. That's a big part of the reason for the vastly different figures. Trump will be easily defeated in November. His failures have led to the shut down of the largest economy in the world for months and maybe even years. His inaction and downplaying of the problem has unnecessarily risked the lives of millions of Americans.

A pandemic was going to spark an economic downturn. If it looks like America did well, compared to other first world nations, the voters should not, and may not hold the President responsible.

As of now we look to be the embarrassment of the world when it comes to the handling of the Coronavirus. Right there with Brazil. Can you name any other country that’s doing worse?

As of now, I have no faith in any of the numbers reported. The politics of it all, have tainted the information gathering and I don't trust any of the data, and have not for quite some time.


I will point out that you people have been hysterical about Trump since he was elected, and to pretend that you are upset about him BECAUSE of his supposedly so bad handling of this issue, is utter bullshit.

Hysterical is hyperbole. I don’t think Trump is a good leader and I’m very critical of him. If my criticism is unwarranted then it should be able to be beaten through debate yet most people here don’t engage in debate they just dismiss my critiques by say TDS. That’s weak.

Regarding COVID. All you need to do is look at the hospitals, and body counts that are piling up. Go talk to doctors and nurses in Florida and Texas. Check out the morgues and see the refrigeration trucks being brought in to handle the bodies.

Then you tell me how throwing doubt, downplaying, and ignoring safety protocol is a good thing. Cause from my eyes I’d rather take the numbers seriously and be safe instead of being that idiot not taking it seriously and spreading a deadly virus that is killing Americans. It’s a no brainer to me. If EVERYBODY just swallowed their ego and locked down by following the CDC guidelines we Could knock this thing out in a few weeks. It’s a national embarrassment that we are in the position we are in and covering your eyes is not going to make things better.

The guidelines encourage guessing as to what is a Covid Death. AND then on top of they offer extra money if the death is "covid".


The numbers are inflated.

Can you admit that?

I’m not on the front lines so I can’t say. It wouldn’t surprise me if some deaths got marked as Covid when they weren’t.... errors happen all the time. I don’t think it’s realistic to think there is a widespread conspiracy going on. That’s ridiculous. With all that said... we still have hospitals filling up and morgues over flowing in Florida and Texas. Can you admit that? Can you explain it?

Why is it ridiculous? Over half the doctors think that Trump is basically "Hitler" and that making him look bad is thus a far more important "Good" than any ethical or professional responsibility they have to tell the Truth.

Are you pretending that your side didn't swear to "RESIST" in every possible way, for the next 4 years to make sue that no one got to thinking this was "normal"?

Over half the doctors think Trump is basically “Hitler”?! Haha ok, wow, now I know you are just pulling shit out of your ass. Did you run a poll or call up all the doctors personally to get that stat?!
....

Your half f the country has been saying that shit for the last 4 years. If you don't believe it, why are you saying it?


If you say it, and believe it, then expecting people to do shit to RESIST, is completely reasonable.


I've had plenty of liberals tell me that they would do stuff LIKE that, because the political divide between them, the good people, and us, the supposedly bad people was so great, and we were so "Bad" that taking steps against us, would be justified, because "wacism" or "whites supremacy" or some such bullshit.

I’ve never said that Trump was Hitler and I don’t have a “half”. If you can’t have a one on one discussion with me without using weak stereotypes of what some imaginary team that you think I’m on has said then I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Are you done with the games or are we done with the debate?

Good for you. Now, are you pretending you missed all of those on the Left who were pushing that viewpoint and acknowledge that it is likely that a significant portion of the nation, bought into the worst case scenario they were pushing.

Of course I’m not pretending to have missed it... Ive seen plenty of idiots on the Left say false hyperbolic and political lies about Trump. But that has nothing to do with me or with what we are talking about so why are you shifting it to the focus of this discussion?! it certainly does not define half of all doctors like you falsely claimed as justification to your unfounded assertion that doctors are conspiring to lie about COVID stats. I know many doctors and most are Republican supporters of Trump. To say that half think he is Hitler and are willing to lie and risk their freedom and careers to pad some stats is just idiotic.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling to capacity in Florida, Arizona and Texas. Do you have a direct answer?

There is no risk. NO one is going to hold them accountable. The official guidelines state that guessing is allowed. EVen if someone were to call them on their behavior, and no one will, their asses are covered.


Your pretense that the nation is not evenly divided is not credible.

I asked how you explain the hospitals and morgues filling in Florida and Texas

Yep you did say that. You also said other shit. YOu want to focus on something, then focus. When you throw a bunch of shit against a wall, I get to pick what I respond to.


No one is going to hold them accountable. And if anyone tried, their asses are covered by the official guidelines. And anyone that tried, gets dogpiled by people like you.

Why are you dishonestly pretending that is not true?

I’m pretending it’s not true. It just isn’t. I’m sure there are human errors and I’m sure there is fraud. I hope both are identified. I just read an article that Trump cut off the CDC from be responsible for the hospital numbers and that info will no longer be made public. I’m sure if they find something shady in what’s being reported then Trump will be the first to blow it and take cover behind the fall out. I’m also sure there are plenty ty of investigative journalists looking into the issue. So there is ole ty of accountability out there that I hope is applied if necessary.

That was a focused and thoughtful answer the the topic YOU asked about. How about you return the effort and give the question I’ve asked you the same attention and respect...

what do you think of the fact that hospitals and morgues in Texas and Florida are overcrowding? What do you think is causing it if the COVID numbers aren’t accurate?

I have no faith in the media investigating shit.

At a guess, I don't know. I've lost all faith in all numbers on this for quite some time. We know that hysteria and panics effect the ability to think and act rationally and on top of the we have massive partisan motive.



Could easily be doctors "erring" on the side of caution and slapping patients into ICU excessively. Could be data collectors lying. Could be reporters lying.


We've seen worse from liberals before.

Ok, it could be all those things OR it could be that people are getting sick and dying and a serious disease is Spreading through our country. Why people aren’t proceeding on the side of caution and instead are acting like jackasses is beyond belief.

just consider for a second that the numbers in Texas and Florida are not being faked. And these Trump supporting Republican governors Who are now reversing their openings are doing so because they actually have a serious public health situation to deal with. Perhaps it better to just suck it up and act responsibly for a bit. Make sense?

1. We have been proceeding on the side of caution, to an extent I have not seen in my lifetime. For far longer than I would have believed possible.

2. AND, I want to add, if the media has no credibility, that was their choice. THey choose to shit can it, to give support to the dems. and the lib agenda. This is on them.

Good for you you should be cautious... I don’t see how talking the way your talking is helping things. The sentiments your expressing are shared by many who translate into action and that’s how thing thing is spreading.

Just saw a report that Miami hospital is out of ICU beds. Arizona has 600 nurses being sent in and refrigeration trucks to help the morgues. Why don’t you give them a call and see for yourself. Maybe then you’ll get on the right side of this thing.

1. There is no rational consideration of cost to benefit on this "caution". It is politically motivated and counter productive.

2. Viruses spread. The plan was to flatten the curve. We did that in the first month. We were never supposed to go this long.

Caution is not politically motivated. It’s basic human decency

 

[FA_Q2]

By the way, the pandemic will re-elect Trump in 2024.

LOL.

Never mind. Even the bubble cannot explain this level of delusion.

 

[U2Edge]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

What do you think now?

 

[Coyote]

By the way, the pandemic will re-elect Trump in 2024.

He'll be dead of natural causes by then... or bankrupt... or both.

Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, has all his wits about him unlike Biden-dream on.

He will be 78. Older than Biden.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

Your crystal ball is flawed, much as Trump's effort to be quick and decisive on March 21st and is still claiming we are turning the corner nearly eight months and 230.000 deaths later.

 

[g5000]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

Oopsie!

 

[FA_Q2]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

Oopsie!

No, no, no. He just mistyped. He really meant 2024. Did you not see post 208.

Right after Hillary, Biden and Hunter are jailed for.... something.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The plan was to flatten the curve. We did that in the first month.

That is not true. There was no executed plan to flatten the curve across the entire United States. The first wave on the east coast hit NYC. New Yorkers flattened the curve over four months achieving zero COVID19 deaths in one day in July. The

 

[Skylar]

Here's what I m seeing. Trump's handling of the virus crisis has been quick and decisive. His political-outsider status has positioned him well to tackle the plague head on. He is leading the world in how to stop the pathogen in its tracks. It isn't just the US that is watching Trump, it is the world and he has taken charge in a way that make his detractors look like deranged, salivating schizophrenics on street corners.

As always, Trump has accepted the challenge at hand by pulling the sword from the stone. No one else could have done this. Lesser leadership would have already retreated into excuses and failed outright. There are no world-renowned health experts leaking criticisms of Trump but instead they are supportive of his policies.

2020 belongs to Trump.

Trump's handling of coronavirus has been a dumpster fire. Of the 164 nations we have coronovirus stats on, the US response is 152nd....among the worst in the entire world.

Total cases? The worst.
Total deaths? The worst
Deaths per capita? 12th highest on the planet. Putting us in the lowest 8th percentile. That means 92% of countries did better than we have.

We've lost more people than died in 911 in the last 48 hours.....and for the overwhelming majority of us, Trump pouted in seclusion.

Trump's failure as a leader during COVID will be his most enduring legacy. And one of the many reason why he was fired.

That man was so inept, so flagrantly flaunted his own CDC's recommendations, was so incompetent and oblivious, he coudln't even protect HIMSELF from COVID. Putting himself in intensive care because of a mask free party he threw at the white house.