Corporate tax rate

[xband]

The American people have trillions of dollars in retirement money invested in corporations. Tell us again why we should want to punish that golden goose??

The key phrase is type C corporation, zero income tax. You can't find one in the stock market.

All corporations generate tax revenue. The corporate hating left dishonestly refuse to admit this.

The owners or owner and employees of a type C corporation have to pay income tax. However, I took no wages for two years and beat the tax man for two years.

Then there is sales tax, business property tax, public transportation tax, all manner of fees and other taxes. Federal, State and local government look on corporations and businesses as their piggy banks.

Farm sales tax exemption, all kinds of loopholes.

 

[Winston]

The American people have trillions of dollars in retirement money invested in corporations. Tell us again why we should want to punish that golden goose??

The key phrase is type C corporation, zero income tax. You can't find one in the stock market.

All corporations generate tax revenue. The corporate hating left dishonestly refuse to admit this.

The owners or owner and employees of a type C corporation have to pay income tax. However, I took no wages for two years and beat the tax man for two years.

Then there is sales tax, business property tax, public transportation tax, all manner of fees and other taxes. Federal, State and local government look on corporations and businesses as their piggy banks.

Well that piggy bank has been getting smaller and smaller

 

[xband]

The American people have trillions of dollars in retirement money invested in corporations. Tell us again why we should want to punish that golden goose??

The key phrase is type C corporation, zero income tax. You can't find one in the stock market.

All corporations generate tax revenue. The corporate hating left dishonestly refuse to admit this.

The owners or owner and employees of a type C corporation have to pay income tax. However, I took no wages for two years and beat the tax man for two years.

Then there is sales tax, business property tax, public transportation tax, all manner of fees and other taxes. Federal, State and local government look on corporations and businesses as their piggy banks.

Well that piggy bank has been getting smaller and smaller

cans keep the

Americans keep the Boston Tea Party in mind.

 

[hadit]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

 

[Darkwind]

The Federal Government does NOT take care of people. That is the purpose of each individual State.

Taking care of people is a personal duty--the government is not your mommy. The only care the government owes the people is in public infrastructure and protection from predatory business practices. The government's job is not wealth redistribution or charity.

You're preaching to the choir. The problem is, these clowns think that the Federal Government is responsible for everything when in fact, they are ONLY responsible as liaisons to the world for citizens of the USA.

 

[bendog]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

So......cut Tax Expenditures????

g5000? Is that YOU???

Yes, cut expenditures!
MAGA

R u guys now on the G5000 bandwagon?

 

[bendog]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

 

[Darkwind]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

That is not the government's concern.

 

[xband]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

Secondary edu is worthless.

 

[bendog]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

That is not the government's concern.

Well, not if you live in ...... antartica

 

[kaz]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

The corporate tax rate should be zero. It's a double tax on the owners and a pure job killer. You hate working people

 

[Darkwind]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

That is not the government's concern.

Well, not if you live in ...... antartica

Or anywhere else.

 

[xband]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

That is not the government's concern.

Well, not if you live in ...... antartica

Or anywhere else.

Murphy' Law rules supreme.

 

[hadit]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

1. That depends on where they live. I live in a semi-rural area outside of Richmond, Va, and 150K here would allow you to easily afford everything on that list except maybe secondary education, and that could be handled in other ways. It's not the government's responsibility, however, to pay for things that are nice to have but too expensive for many. Like I said, there are not too many who would argue against the government staving off starvation and death.

2. Claiming a family of 4 making 150K is "in need" is not going to garner much support, I'm afraid.

 

[Darkwind]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

1. That depends on where they live. I live in a semi-rural area outside of Richmond, Va, and 150K here would allow you to easily afford everything on that list except maybe secondary education, and that could be handled in other ways. It's not the government's responsibility, however, to pay for things that are nice to have but too expensive for many. Like I said, there are not too many who would argue against the government staving off starvation and death.

2. Claiming a family of 4 making 150K is "in need" is not going to garner much support, I'm afraid.

I would argue that staving off starvation is not in the Federal Government's autority. That is a State issue.

 

[hadit]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.

Deal?

Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.

And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.

If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....

1. That depends on where they live. I live in a semi-rural area outside of Richmond, Va, and 150K here would allow you to easily afford everything on that list except maybe secondary education, and that could be handled in other ways. It's not the government's responsibility, however, to pay for things that are nice to have but too expensive for many. Like I said, there are not too many who would argue against the government staving off starvation and death.

2. Claiming a family of 4 making 150K is "in need" is not going to garner much support, I'm afraid.

I would argue that staving off starvation is not in the Federal Government's autority. That is a State issue.

I didn't specify which level of government, so I would agree, It's a State issue to take care of its citizens.

 

[Winston]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

The corporate tax rate should be zero. It's a double tax on the owners and a pure job killer. You hate working people

That is ignorant on so many levels I don't even know where to start. Corporations have a liability shield for the owners, they are considered individuals when it comes to freedom of speech, they pay no social security tax on their income, they can deduct the cost of health insurance and other benefits, and yet you want them to have all these benefits for FLIPPIN FREE. Talk about freeloading.

 

[kaz]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

The corporate tax rate should be zero. It's a double tax on the owners and a pure job killer. You hate working people

That is ignorant on so many levels I don't even know where to start. Corporations have a liability shield for the owners, they are considered individuals when it comes to freedom of speech, they pay no social security tax on their income, they can deduct the cost of health insurance and other benefits, and yet you want them to have all these benefits for FLIPPIN FREE. Talk about freeloading.

No, I said money should be taxed ONCE. My God, you're a complete fucking moron.

Winston: Duh, dar, kaz, if it's taxed twice now and you remove one of those taxes, it isn't taxed at all!

Fucking loon propagandist. The only thing that's funny about you is that you're Winston and you're a total Big Brother supporter

 

[Winston]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

The corporate tax rate should be zero. It's a double tax on the owners and a pure job killer. You hate working people

That is ignorant on so many levels I don't even know where to start. Corporations have a liability shield for the owners, they are considered individuals when it comes to freedom of speech, they pay no social security tax on their income, they can deduct the cost of health insurance and other benefits, and yet you want them to have all these benefits for FLIPPIN FREE. Talk about freeloading.

No, I said money should be taxed ONCE. My God, you're a complete fucking moron.

Winston: Duh, dar, kaz, if it's taxed twice now and you remove one of those taxes, it isn't taxed at all!

Fucking loon propagandist. The only thing that's funny about you is that you're Winston and you're a total Big Brother supporter

The double tax shit is absolutely stupid. You pick up your paycheck. You paid taxes and you go to the grocery store with what's left, you paid taxes again. Damn, DOUBLE TAX. Then you pay your power bill, damn, taxed again. DOUBLE TAX. You tell me, when the sam hell the corporation paid taxes on their damn profits? When, tell me? You get double taxed, but corporations, they don't. The don't even get double taxed on profits from foreign operations, the taxes they pay are fully deductible.

And I didn't even mention the ignorance of claiming the corporate tax rate is a job killer. How many jobs did Trump's corporate tax cut create? How much of that tax cut was spent on corporate stock buybacks? Company has a thousand dollars in profit. Corporate tax rate is, say, 40%. They could spend that thousand bucks to hire someone and it would cost them $600. Now, the corporate tax rate is 20%, they spend that thousand to hire someone it will cost them $800. You do realize that when it costs more to hire someone the chances of hiring them is less, right? Supply and demand familiar to you?

 

[Darkwind]

Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.

The corporate tax rate should be zero. It's a double tax on the owners and a pure job killer. You hate working people

That is ignorant on so many levels I don't even know where to start. Corporations have a liability shield for the owners, they are considered individuals when it comes to freedom of speech, they pay no social security tax on their income, they can deduct the cost of health insurance and other benefits, and yet you want them to have all these benefits for FLIPPIN FREE. Talk about freeloading.

No, I said money should be taxed ONCE. My God, you're a complete fucking moron.

Winston: Duh, dar, kaz, if it's taxed twice now and you remove one of those taxes, it isn't taxed at all!

Fucking loon propagandist. The only thing that's funny about you is that you're Winston and you're a total Big Brother supporter

The double tax shit is absolutely stupid. You pick up your paycheck. You paid taxes and you go to the grocery store with what's left, you paid taxes again. Damn, DOUBLE TAX. Then you pay your power bill, damn, taxed again. DOUBLE TAX. You tell me, when the sam hell the corporation paid taxes on their damn profits? When, tell me? You get double taxed, but corporations, they don't. The don't even get double taxed on profits from foreign operations, the taxes they pay are fully deductible.

And I didn't even mention the ignorance of claiming the corporate tax rate is a job killer. How many jobs did Trump's corporate tax cut create? How much of that tax cut was spent on corporate stock buybacks? Company has a thousand dollars in profit. Corporate tax rate is, say, 40%. They could spend that thousand bucks to hire someone and it would cost them $600. Now, the corporate tax rate is 20%, they spend that thousand to hire someone it will cost them $800. You do realize that when it costs more to hire someone the chances of hiring them is less, right? Supply and demand familiar to you?

So, corporations never get taxed on their investments in machinery, office supplies...oh, and get this. PAYROLL! A hundred other items you seem to be blind to.

If a corporation has to pay more in texes, they don't hire people. Its really a no-brainer