pknopp
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How could preventing Hamas from importing weapons possibly harm the economy?
That isn't all that was done.
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How could preventing Hamas from importing weapons possibly harm the economy?
So you say, but so far you have been unable to say what the practical alternative is, so what makes you think there is one?Quit believing the solution is in killing each other. It's pretty stupid and it's not working.
Okay. So you agree that Hamas and the people of Gaza should put down their arms, surrender, never attack Israel again, give up all forms of resistance. And there will be peace. We agree.Quit believing the solution is in killing each other. It's pretty stupid and it's not working.
So you say, but so far you have been unable to say what the practical alternative is, so what makes you think there is one?
Okay. So you agree that Hamas and the people of Gaza should put down their arms, surrender, never attack Israel again, give up all forms of resistance. And there will be peace. We agree.
(COMMENT)Well, no. By precision removal of the threat. And supervision. And re-education.
Statute of the Court of Justice (ICJ) said:Article 63
1. Whenever the construction of a convention to which states other than those concerned in the case are parties is in question, the Registrar shall notify all such states forthwith.
2. Every state so notified has the right to intervene in the proceedings; but if it uses this right, the construction given by the judgment will be equally binding upon it.
How do you propose to get Hamas to believe that killing is not the answer? I gave my four-step solution to the problem. What is yours?Surrender? No. Quit believing killing is the answer? Yes. Release the hostages? Yes.
So you say, but so far you have been unable to say what the practical alternative is, so what makes you think there is one?Quit believing the solution is in killing each other. It's pretty stupid and it's not working.
That is all that was done. In order to prevent weapons being shipped to Hamas, all shipments had to be inspected by Israel before entering Gaza, and only weapons or dual use items were prevented from going in. The process was completely transparent and was observed by the US and UN. Where there were disagreements about how much of a dual use item would be allowed in, the issue was negotiated and since Hamas got enough concrete and steel to build 35 - 50 miles of steel and concrete tunnels under Gaza's cities, clearly commerce was not limited by the blockade.That isn't all that was done.
How do you propose to get Hamas to believe that killing is not the answer? I gave my four-step solution to the problem. What is yours?
What did you suggest?What I suggested isn't being tried.
Sadly we are an evil bunch of people who will never learn.
So you say, but so far you have been unable to say what the practical alternative is, so what makes you think there is one?
That is all that was done. In order to prevent weapons being shipped to Hamas, all shipments had to be inspected by Israel before entering Gaza, and only weapons or dual use items were prevented from going in. The process was completely transparent and was observed by the US and UN. Where there were disagreements about how much of a dual use item would be allowed in, the issue was negotiated and since Hamas got enough concrete and steel to build 35 - 50 miles of steel and concrete tunnels under Gaza's cities, clearly commerce was not limited by the blockade.
What did you suggest?
It seems people would be supporting the solution I, and many others here have proposed. If you can't imagine an alternative, then ...Nobody cares what I would do.
The thread is about 78% believing Israel needs to destroy Hamas and me believing people don't actually understand what they are supporting.
How do you go about doing that?Quit believing killing and controlling is the answer.
How do you go about doing that?
The fact is there are no practical steps Israel can take to protect its citizens other than destroying Hamas' capability to launch large scale attacks on its citizens and to then establish security control over Gaza so that Hamas and other terrorist groups can't reorganize.
Actually it did in Gaza before the Israeli withdrawal in 2005 and it works in the West Bank today.It didn't work before.
Poll: 72% of Americans Back Israel's Rafah Operation, 78% Want Hamas Removed.