Conservatives: Do You Give

[nraforlife]

Still not one person opposed to homosexuals being married is able to say how gays being legally married actually impact their life in any way.

It doesn't impact my life, and by the way there is nothing preventing homos from getting married. You're talking about state recognition of such marriages. What does it effect you or any other homo if myself or the rest of society doesn't recognize their "gay marriage"?

O, health care decisions, inheritance laws, employer benefits, child custody, etc. etc. etc. Yanno....all the benefits you get from your marriage?

Yeppers always figured cashing in was the real motivation.

 

[bodecea]

And NAMBLA = Gays, right?

Well what the **** would you call "Man-Boy" love?

Pedaphilia.

And most are hetero males and most pedophilia is against girls....by those hetero men.

 

[bodecea]

It doesn't impact my life, and by the way there is nothing preventing homos from getting married. You're talking about state recognition of such marriages. What does it effect you or any other homo if myself or the rest of society doesn't recognize their "gay marriage"?

O, health care decisions, inheritance laws, employer benefits, child custody, etc. etc. etc. Yanno....all the benefits you get from your marriage?

Yeppers always figured cashing in was the real motivation.

Yeppers, for straight couples. That's why they want to keep it to themselves...the cashing in part.

 

[Liability]

Well what the **** would you call "Man-Boy" love?

Pedaphilia.

And most are hetero males and most pedophilia is against girls....by those hetero men.

But the question was about "man-boy" love. And although that is pedophilia, it is also gay pedophilia.

 

[bodecea]

Pedaphilia.

And most are hetero males and most pedophilia is against girls....by those hetero men.

But the question was about "man-boy" love. And although that is pedophilia, it is also gay pedophilia.

And that doesn't make it any LESS wrong or any MORE wrong than any other kind of pedophilia....MOST of which is committed by straight men....sad to say, quite frequently by male relatives/family friends...family priests.

 

[del]

Do you give a flying **** about homosexuals and how they live their lives?

This is a spin off of Dr House's comment to Jerkbert in the thread on conservative homosexuals.

People who practice homosexuality experience higher rates of many diseases, including:

Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphillis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis

People who practice homosexuality have higher rates of:

Alcohol abuse
Drug abuse
Nicotine dependence
Depression
Suicide
Domestic violence (20 times more common than among heterosexuals)

In addition to a domestic violence rate that is 20 times higher than among heterosexuals, these are some of the negative effects homosexuality has on society:

Higher rates of child molestation*
(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)

Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.

In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.

Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.

Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.

Homosexuality Harms Society

this is the home page for the stats fuckwit cites.

Introduction to Jesus Christ



how much does a good used triceratops saddle cost?

 

[bodecea]

Do you give a flying **** about homosexuals and how they live their lives?

This is a spin off of Dr House's comment to Jerkbert in the thread on conservative homosexuals.

People who practice homosexuality experience higher rates of many diseases, including:

Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphillis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis

People who practice homosexuality have higher rates of:

Alcohol abuse
Drug abuse
Nicotine dependence
Depression
Suicide
Domestic violence (20 times more common than among heterosexuals)

In addition to a domestic violence rate that is 20 times higher than among heterosexuals, these are some of the negative effects homosexuality has on society:

Higher rates of child molestation*
(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)

Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.

In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.

Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.

Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.

Homosexuality Harms Society

this is the home page for the stats fuckwit cites.

Introduction to Jesus Christ



how much does a good used triceratops saddle cost?

I tried to warn him about his source.....but nooooooooooo

 

[del]

People who practice homosexuality experience higher rates of many diseases, including:

Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphillis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis

People who practice homosexuality have higher rates of:

Alcohol abuse
Drug abuse
Nicotine dependence
Depression
Suicide
Domestic violence (20 times more common than among heterosexuals)

In addition to a domestic violence rate that is 20 times higher than among heterosexuals, these are some of the negative effects homosexuality has on society:

Higher rates of child molestation*
(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)

Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.

In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.

Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.

Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.

Homosexuality Harms Society

this is the home page for the stats fuckwit cites.

Introduction to Jesus Christ



how much does a good used triceratops saddle cost?

I tried to warn him about his source.....but nooooooooooo

it might be the CDC study for all i know-too bad. it's good to use neutral sources for just that reason

 

[Charles_Main]

Do you give a flying **** about homosexuals and how they live their lives?

This is a spin off of Dr House's comment to Jerkbert in the thread on conservative homosexuals.

Not in the slightest.

 

[nraforlife]

O, health care decisions, inheritance laws, employer benefits, child custody, etc. etc. etc. Yanno....all the benefits you get from your marriage?

Yeppers always figured cashing in was the real motivation.

Yeppers, for straight couples. That's why they want to keep it to themselves...the cashing in part.

Well that is what marriage IS- a man & a woman. The society as whole believes that certain tax & social perks for those couples advance the General Welfare. On the otherhand hardly anybody thinks providing cash rewards to fags for buttfucking and lezboes for carpet munching has any payoff for the general society. Get used to it. We don't really care all that much what you do when out of sight, but we sure as hell ain't gonna pay you to do it.

 

[bodecea]

Yeppers always figured cashing in was the real motivation.

Yeppers, for straight couples. That's why they want to keep it to themselves...the cashing in part.

Well that is what marriage IS- a man & a woman. The society as whole believes that certain tax & social perks for those couples advance the General Welfare. On the otherhand hardly anybody thinks providing cash rewards to fags for buttfucking and lezboes for carpet munching has any payoff for the general society. Get used to it. We don't really care all that much what you do when out of sight, but we sure as hell ain't gonna pay you to do it.

But we will pay for heteros who do those things....all because of gender....government sanctioned gender discrimination.

 

[Modbert]

how much does a good used triceratops saddle cost?

 

[Sky Dancer]

This is the kind of thread I'm not gonna miss.

 

[Madeline]

I do not know nor care what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. I know plenty of gays who are great people, and some who are pricks. Just like heteros. Imagine that.

I believe in civil unions, but not gay marriage. It's not a religious/moral issue for me. Just a semantic one. Marriage is between a man and woman. Bill Clinton said so.

Gay people can marry. But only to the opposite sex.

Because it is so critical we legally designate GLBT people as second class citizens, and legally describe hetero marriages as "morally superior"? Bullshit.

One thing you geniuses who fence-sit and propound this nonsense never consider is, where do I litigate the dissolution of a "civil union"? I can't go to Family Court -- that court's jurisdiction is over marriages. I have no body of statutory or case law to guide me, and I can't predict the legal outcome for my client with any certainty. WTF do we need TWO different legal systems for marriage and family, merely because only some people in them are GLBT?

 

[Madeline]

Yeppers always figured cashing in was the real motivation.

Yeppers, for straight couples. That's why they want to keep it to themselves...the cashing in part.

Well that is what marriage IS- a man & a woman. The society as whole believes that certain tax & social perks for those couples advance the General Welfare. On the otherhand hardly anybody thinks providing cash rewards to fags for buttfucking and lezboes for carpet munching has any payoff for the general society. Get used to it. We don't really care all that much what you do when out of sight, but we sure as hell ain't gonna pay you to do it.

The majority of Americans support GLBT people's marriage and family rights, genius. Might want to leave the house occassionally and air out your brain, mebbe speak to someone who isn't a dues paying member of the American Nazi Party.

 

[bodecea]

I do not know nor care what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. I know plenty of gays who are great people, and some who are pricks. Just like heteros. Imagine that.

I believe in civil unions, but not gay marriage. It's not a religious/moral issue for me. Just a semantic one. Marriage is between a man and woman. Bill Clinton said so.

Gay people can marry. But only to the opposite sex.

Because it is so critical we legally designate GLBT people as second class citizens, and legally describe hetero marriages as "morally superior"? Bullshit.

One thing you geniuses who fence-sit and propound this nonsense never consider is, where do I litigate the dissolution of a "civil union"? I can't go to Family Court -- that court's jurisdiction is over marriages. I have no body of statutory or case law to guide me, and I can't predict the legal outcome for my client with any certainty. WTF do we need TWO different legal systems for marriage and family, merely because only some people in them are GLBT?

Civil Unions....ok with me as long as ALL legal marriages are officially changed to civil unions....which required all legal documentation, statutes, laws, forms, etc. had the word "marriage" changed to "civil union". There was a petition in CA to get such a proposition on the ballot....I signed it. It didn't get enough signatures to make it to the ballot....yet.

 

[Madeline]

I do not know nor care what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. I know plenty of gays who are great people, and some who are pricks. Just like heteros. Imagine that.

I believe in civil unions, but not gay marriage. It's not a religious/moral issue for me. Just a semantic one. Marriage is between a man and woman. Bill Clinton said so.

Gay people can marry. But only to the opposite sex.

Because it is so critical we legally designate GLBT people as second class citizens, and legally describe hetero marriages as "morally superior"? Bullshit.

One thing you geniuses who fence-sit and propound this nonsense never consider is, where do I litigate the dissolution of a "civil union"? I can't go to Family Court -- that court's jurisdiction is over marriages. I have no body of statutory or case law to guide me, and I can't predict the legal outcome for my client with any certainty. WTF do we need TWO different legal systems for marriage and family, merely because only some people in them are GLBT?

Civil Unions....ok with me as long as ALL legal marriages are officially changed to civil unions....which required all legal documentation, statutes, laws, forms, etc. had the word "marriage" changed to "civil union". There was a petition in CA to get such a proposition on the ballot....I signed it. It didn't get enough signatures to make it to the ballot....yet.

Do you have any idea what sort of constitutional (state, not federal) and legal morass that would create? How long do you think it would take before some shiney new lawyer came up with the argument that last week's case law on marriage did not apply because this week's lawsuit concerned a civil union?

You're talking about Millions (Billions) of dollars wasted because the semantics give some homophobes heartburn, bodecea. It isn't that I care whether the union is known as a "marriage" or a "giraffe"....but we have been using caselaw on "marriage" that dates back to the Code of Hammurabi and the Magna Carta.

I should start from scratch, why?

 

[bodecea]

Because it is so critical we legally designate GLBT people as second class citizens, and legally describe hetero marriages as "morally superior"? Bullshit.

One thing you geniuses who fence-sit and propound this nonsense never consider is, where do I litigate the dissolution of a "civil union"? I can't go to Family Court -- that court's jurisdiction is over marriages. I have no body of statutory or case law to guide me, and I can't predict the legal outcome for my client with any certainty. WTF do we need TWO different legal systems for marriage and family, merely because only some people in them are GLBT?

Civil Unions....ok with me as long as ALL legal marriages are officially changed to civil unions....which required all legal documentation, statutes, laws, forms, etc. had the word "marriage" changed to "civil union". There was a petition in CA to get such a proposition on the ballot....I signed it. It didn't get enough signatures to make it to the ballot....yet.

Do you have any idea what sort of constitutional (state, not federal) and legal morass that would create? How long do you think it would take before some shiney new lawyer came up with the argument that last week's case law on marriage did not apply because this week's lawsuit concerned a civil union?

You're talking about Millions (Billions) of dollars wasted because the semantics give some homophobes heartburn, bodecea. It isn't that I care whether the union is known as a "marriage" or a "giraffe"....but we have been using caselaw on "marriage" that dates back to the Code of Hammurabi and the Magna Carta.

I should start from scratch, why?

Because religionists want a patent on the word "marriage".

 

[Newby]

How is that any different than you thinking you can redefine it to mean whatever you want?

 

[bodecea]

How is that any different than you thinking you can redefine it to mean whatever you want?

You seem to think that words are static. They are not.