Consequence Culture - Gina Carano, Colin Kaepernick, The Dixie Chicks and Jane Fonda

[Canon Shooter]

He got let go because they blackballed him, and when they sued they settled before discovery was allowed to go forward because that would have proven his claim that there was collusion.

No, it was they held such disdain for Kaepernick that they decided they'd just pay him and move on. He was't worth the time nor effort for a court case...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Nope. I don't do links unless I feel like it. It's usually wasted, because you guys either pretend you didn't see them or scream "Fake News"

Codespeak for "I have absolutely nothing to support my argument, but you should believe me anyway"...

 

[schmidlap]

She never mentioned "conservative" in her tweet, you lying sack of shit.......how about you quote exactly what she said....so people who don't know what she said can see what a dishonest asshole you are...

Compose yourself. You appear thoroughly flustered, Peaches.

The fired actress shared a post that read: "Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors... even by children." You can easily find confirmations from numerous sources if you want to.

Of course, we know what the Nazis did, regardless of her exculpatory nonsense.

 

[9thIDdoc]

So we've seen a few threads on these boards about how Gina Carano was fired by Disney after she repeatedly posted racist, conspiratorial and transphobic memes on Twitter, and someone decided that she wasn't the best person to have on your Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family. Yes, after spending 4 BILLION to buy the rights to Star Wars, they didn't want some third tier actor dragging them into controversy they didn't need.

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Fun Space Adventure... Calling them "Younglings" so you don't have to say, "Killed Children"

Anyway, the Right Wing has gone apoplectic over this. How dare we punish this poor woman for merely expressing her opinion.

Of course, these were the same people who insisted that the NFL Fire Colin Kaepernick because he took a knee protesting police misconduct and killing of black people.

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Eventually, he was proven right when the country exploded into riots after George Floyd was murdered. Even big corporations got in on the act.

Then there were the Dixie Chicks. Remember them? They were a country band that expressed the opinion that our war with Iraq over weapons that didn't exist was probably a bad idea. (Actually, only one of them did, but they all paid for it.

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Eventually, they were proven right. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a Right Winger today who would argue the Iraq War was a good idea.

Then there was the grandmother of all "Cancel Culture", Jane Fonda. You remember Jane? She was the one who said our undeclared war in Vietnam was a terrible idea. Even humanized the people we were mercilessly bombing by visiting them.

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Well, she was proven right. The war was a bad idea. Not that it did her any good, people still denounced her as "Hanoi Jane" and her career was pretty much over by 1980.

Point is, the Right Wing was for Cancel Culture (really, "Consequence Culture") before they were against it.

So let the right wing outrage begin!!!

The OP is based on a false premise. The people named in the OP (and many many more both people and corporations) received their income from the general public; the people. Not just any arbitrary political division. And to the extent they were "cancelled" it was by that public who simply stopped buying their product. Simple, you piss people off; they stop buying what you're selling. Has nothing to do with politics and in fact our whole political system operates on the same basic principle: piss off the voters-they don't vote for you. Just part of the American way.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am asking for a racist example. Thanks. Learn to read.

I hoped that you might learn of the nature of the actress's incipid ideas, denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities.
When she whined that being conservative these days is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany, she minimized the inhuman treatment of Holocaust victims. Nazis tried to exterminate Jews based on their supposed racial distinctiveness.

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So I am a Jew. Are you? Some say Jews are a race some don’t but what she said was 100% accurate and not remotely offensive to a Jewish person who lost 95% of his ancestors to WW2 and the Holocaust. She was then immediately hired by an Orthodox Jew in Ben Shapiro. So I ask again what was racist about her statements since I as a Jew agree with them? Are you going to speak for me now, old man?

 

[harmonica]

....her getting fired is EXACTLY what she was talking about!!

yeah, she got fired for saying racist and stupid shit.

because when you are making a Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family, you don't want the Racist Chick on there.

She got fired because sissies got offended. There was nothing racist about it.

and he can't prove it---all he does is babble crap

 

[struth]

Was Trump sitting on a anti-aircraft gun that was being used to kill US servicemen?

The failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer has inflicted more damage on the nation that a young, admittedly naïve actress ever could. She, having honestly acknowledged and apologized for her error, went on to a very successful career. He, being far too weak to ever admit to error, has been judged by the American electorate and will while away his dotage amidst criminal and civil prosecution, and fiscal duress.

hahaha wake me up when he's been charged, I fear the propagandist you've been listening to have done a lot of damage to our country....and here they are again, keeping you dangling on a string

 

[JoeB131]

You have yet to illustrate one racist example from her. I ll patiently wait for you to do so.

Again, not playing that game. Played that game with you with Trump, where his calling Mexicans Rapists clearly was racist except for your little world.

3) well considering the event in your pic took place in the early 70s, it would seem it didn't.....if over a decade later her career stalled.....and actually she was making films almost yearly til 1990, then took some time off (which is also about the time she married Ted Tuner) ....before coming back in 2005

Except she wasn't making GOOD films, that's the point. She wasn't getting leading lady roles in major motion pictures, despite being probably one of the most talented actresses of her generation. By 1981, she was cancelled.

 

[struth]

You have yet to illustrate one racist example from her. I ll patiently wait for you to do so.

Again, not playing that game. Played that game with you with Trump, where his calling Mexicans Rapists clearly was racist except for your little world.

3) well considering the event in your pic took place in the early 70s, it would seem it didn't.....if over a decade later her career stalled.....and actually she was making films almost yearly til 1990, then took some time off (which is also about the time she married Ted Tuner) ....before coming back in 2005

Except she wasn't making GOOD films, that's the point. She wasn't getting leading lady roles in major motion pictures, despite being probably one of the most talented actresses of her generation. By 1981, she was cancelled.

hahahh....well I can't help it she can't make GOOD films, neither can anyone else....she's really not that good of an actress...she's mainly famous for her last name. Her lack of talent isn't anyone's fault..

Well, even 1981 is nearly a decade after her photo shoot.....

She was in the China Syndrome, 9 to 5, The Electric Horseman, On Golden Pond (Best Picture, 2nd highest grossing film of the year), and Fun with Dick and Jane (the third highest grossing film of the year) to name a few major movies and roles since her photo shoot.

She was not canceled....though she should have been for her horrible act

 

[JoeB131]

He walked away from 17 million dollars.........he walked away from being hired by other teams.....he was offered a private work out to try out for other teams ......

He was done with the game and was looking for a way to make fame and money...and he found it by pushing racism and anti-Americanism...

Except the NFL admitted they blackballed him.

He didn't walk away so much as he was pushed... but never mind.

Here's the thing, pinhead: I will always share my opinion. I will also always accept full responsibility for sharing that opinion. If my customers decide they don't want to use my services anymore because they don't agree with me politically, that's fine. I accept that as result of me sharing my opinion. You seem to think that the Dixie Chicks got a raw deal. Fuck 'em; they're smart women. They should've realized what could happen...

But that wasn't your argument. Your argument was that they shouldn't have criticized Bush in a foreign country. Not that there fans didn't have a right to walk away from them.

They did get a raw deal- BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT!!!! Iraq was a horrible idea. We inflicted massive misery on those people and made ourselves less secure.

Seriously? You're going with the "Uighurs are terrorists" argument? You're either a wumao or a complete idiot. Either way, I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

Well, far be it from you to educate yourself.

The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response

» The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response |

trumancenter.org

On Saturday, a group of knife-wielding assailants killed at least 29 people and wounded 143 others at a train station in Kunming, China. China’s state media described the attack as “an organized, premeditated violent terrorist attack” pointing to separatists from China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region who use the name East Turkestan to describe their homeland.

The Uyghurs are a Muslim ethnic minority group who have historically chafed under Beijing’s rule. Travelling through Xinjiang, their resentment is palpable. Sentiment ranges from outright separatism to a desire for greater autonomy, as well as access to jobs and the preservation of culture, religion, and language in the face of a majority Han Chinese influx and state controls.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You have yet to illustrate one racist example from her. I ll patiently wait for you to do so.

Again, not playing that game. Played that game with you with Trump, where his calling Mexicans Rapists clearly was racist except for your little world.

3) well considering the event in your pic took place in the early 70s, it would seem it didn't.....if over a decade later her career stalled.....and actually she was making films almost yearly til 1990, then took some time off (which is also about the time she married Ted Tuner) ....before coming back in 2005

Except she wasn't making GOOD films, that's the point. She wasn't getting leading lady roles in major motion pictures, despite being probably one of the most talented actresses of her generation. By 1981, she was cancelled.

Nope he didn’t do that either. Reported again. You’re on a roll.

 

[JoeB131]

You are an idiot........I listed her awards and wealth created long after 1972...........her greatest money making movies happened after taking the photo with the mass murdering communists, you dishonest piece of shit....

And her career was over by 1981 because her brand name had become toxic. Everyone was happy to be out of Vietnam, but no one was willing to forgive "Hanoi Jane".

Shit, they were still dragging her up in 2004 when John Kerry Ran for president.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He walked away from 17 million dollars.........he walked away from being hired by other teams.....he was offered a private work out to try out for other teams ......

He was done with the game and was looking for a way to make fame and money...and he found it by pushing racism and anti-Americanism...

Except the NFL admitted they blackballed him.

He didn't walk away so much as he was pushed... but never mind.

Here's the thing, pinhead: I will always share my opinion. I will also always accept full responsibility for sharing that opinion. If my customers decide they don't want to use my services anymore because they don't agree with me politically, that's fine. I accept that as result of me sharing my opinion. You seem to think that the Dixie Chicks got a raw deal. Fuck 'em; they're smart women. They should've realized what could happen...

But that wasn't your argument. Your argument was that they shouldn't have criticized Bush in a foreign country. Not that there fans didn't have a right to walk away from them.

They did get a raw deal- BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT!!!! Iraq was a horrible idea. We inflicted massive misery on those people and made ourselves less secure.

Seriously? You're going with the "Uighurs are terrorists" argument? You're either a wumao or a complete idiot. Either way, I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

Well, far be it from you to educate yourself.

The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response

» The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response |

trumancenter.org

On Saturday, a group of knife-wielding assailants killed at least 29 people and wounded 143 others at a train station in Kunming, China. China’s state media described the attack as “an organized, premeditated violent terrorist attack” pointing to separatists from China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region who use the name East Turkestan to describe their homeland.

The Uyghurs are a Muslim ethnic minority group who have historically chafed under Beijing’s rule. Travelling through Xinjiang, their resentment is palpable. Sentiment ranges from outright separatism to a desire for greater autonomy, as well as access to jobs and the preservation of culture, religion, and language in the face of a majority Han Chinese influx and state controls.

Nope. All lies. NFL doesn’t blackball good players. See Antonio Brown...

 

[JoeB131]

Codespeak for "I have absolutely nothing to support my argument, but you should believe me anyway"...

The one thing I've never heard when I've provided a link.

"Wow. I wasn't aware of that. I'm sorry, you were right, I have totally changed my mind on this issue now that I've been informed."

I do links when I feel like them. Not when other people demand them.

 

[JoeB131]

The OP is based on a false premise. The people named in the OP (and many many more both people and corporations) received their income from the general public; the people. Not just any arbitrary political division. And to the extent they were "cancelled" it was by that public who simply stopped buying their product. Simple, you piss people off; they stop buying what you're selling. Has nothing to do with politics and in fact our whole political system operates on the same basic principle: piss off the voters-they don't vote for you. Just part of the American way.

Okay, we were talking about Gina Carano- who gets her income from the general public and was cancelled after she said racist and transphobic garbage.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it was they held such disdain for Kaepernick that they decided they'd just pay him and move on. He was't worth the time nor effort for a court case...

Nobody pays out money when they are completely in the right.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except the NFL admitted they blackballed him.

Well, he was a whiney twat.

 

[struth]

He walked away from 17 million dollars.........he walked away from being hired by other teams.....he was offered a private work out to try out for other teams ......

He was done with the game and was looking for a way to make fame and money...and he found it by pushing racism and anti-Americanism...

Except the NFL admitted they blackballed him.

He didn't walk away so much as he was pushed... but never mind.

Here's the thing, pinhead: I will always share my opinion. I will also always accept full responsibility for sharing that opinion. If my customers decide they don't want to use my services anymore because they don't agree with me politically, that's fine. I accept that as result of me sharing my opinion. You seem to think that the Dixie Chicks got a raw deal. Fuck 'em; they're smart women. They should've realized what could happen...

But that wasn't your argument. Your argument was that they shouldn't have criticized Bush in a foreign country. Not that there fans didn't have a right to walk away from them.

They did get a raw deal- BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT!!!! Iraq was a horrible idea. We inflicted massive misery on those people and made ourselves less secure.

Seriously? You're going with the "Uighurs are terrorists" argument? You're either a wumao or a complete idiot. Either way, I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

Well, far be it from you to educate yourself.

The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response

» The Attack in Kunming: Uyghurs and Beijing’s Response |

trumancenter.org

On Saturday, a group of knife-wielding assailants killed at least 29 people and wounded 143 others at a train station in Kunming, China. China’s state media described the attack as “an organized, premeditated violent terrorist attack” pointing to separatists from China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region who use the name East Turkestan to describe their homeland.

The Uyghurs are a Muslim ethnic minority group who have historically chafed under Beijing’s rule. Travelling through Xinjiang, their resentment is palpable. Sentiment ranges from outright separatism to a desire for greater autonomy, as well as access to jobs and the preservation of culture, religion, and language in the face of a majority Han Chinese influx and state controls.

haha

No, it was they held such disdain for Kaepernick that they decided they'd just pay him and move on. He was't worth the time nor effort for a court case...

Nobody pays out money when they are completely in the right.

Well.....1) you have no idea if any money was paid out 2) until you prove that you really aren't on much ground here, and I won't go further

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except the NFL admitted they blackballed him.

The NFL admitted that?
Or Joe Lockhart, Clinton's press secretary?

 

[Dadoalex]

While I don't share his beliefs, Tim Tebow was vilified by the left for kneeling in silent prayer. No more disruptive than anything Kaepernick did, the act was considered intolerant and outright disgusting by the shit-stained left.

Tebow knelt in an act of silent, personal prayer. Kapernick knelt in an act of public defiance. The left looked at Tebow as some sort zealot and at Kaepernick as some sort of hero. Kapernick is no hero and Tebow is no zealot, yet only the act of one of them is acceptable to the dumbfucks who inhabit the left...

But, who on the "left" called for Tebow to be banned from football for praying?
His 4 second release, maybe, but not for praying.
The objection to Tebow's acts were not over the prayers but over the public displays.
Public displays which, if they included a prayer rug and bowing to Mecca, I am certain would have prompted the same treatment from you that you give Kap.

Hypocrisy, like Tebow's prayers, should be kept private.