Consequence Culture - Gina Carano, Colin Kaepernick, The Dixie Chicks and Jane Fonda

[GMCGeneral]

1) you seem to be speculating here...with no evidence...there is actually evidence there was no conspirary as I highlighted TWO teams worked him out, one was making an offer until CK gf made horrible comments

I don't have to speculate. The NFL settled and paid him a shitload of money.

2) yes, I am very upset, that she set on a weapon what was used to kill my fellow countrymen....and partied in their camp, while my fellow countrymen were being tortured nearby. I have no issue with her and others being against the war, but come on that's a bridge to far. I am sorry you can't understand the difference. With that said, I have certainly still watched movies she was in.....well after that event.

"set"? Did you mean "Sat"? do you have problems with verbs you should have learned in the first grade, or are you a Russian Troll?

Point was, sit ins weren't getting the job done. If you should be upset with anyone, it should be the leaders who sent men there knowing damned well the war was unwinnable and the Saigon regime would collapse the minute we stopped propping it up. The ironic thing is that Vietnam is our friend today. We do a lot of business there.

nd when was Jane Fonda every canceled? She suffered no work issues from that picture and trip

Actually, her career was pretty much over by 1985.

1) you have no idea if money was even transferred. They reached an agreement for the grievance letter that the Players Union filed on his behalf. Moreover, as I highlighted two teams were interested, one about to make an offer, he was not "blackballed" .... in fact, after the agreement over the grievance letter settlement, the NFL, in an unprecedented move (likely part of the agreement) arranged for a private combine for him, with all the teams being present. All attended, but thirty mins before the start time, CK pulled out....
2) really? ok white flag noted
3) well considering the event in your pic took place in the early 70s, it would seem it didn't.....if over a decade later her career stalled.....and actually she was making films almost yearly til 1990, then took some time off (which is also about the time she married Ted Tuner) ....before coming back in 2005 Jane Fonda filmography

She was never canceled, even though she committed an horrible act.

For which thousands of Vietnam Vets will never forgiver her for.

 

[struth]

1) you seem to be speculating here...with no evidence...there is actually evidence there was no conspirary as I highlighted TWO teams worked him out, one was making an offer until CK gf made horrible comments

I don't have to speculate. The NFL settled and paid him a shitload of money.

2) yes, I am very upset, that she set on a weapon what was used to kill my fellow countrymen....and partied in their camp, while my fellow countrymen were being tortured nearby. I have no issue with her and others being against the war, but come on that's a bridge to far. I am sorry you can't understand the difference. With that said, I have certainly still watched movies she was in.....well after that event.

"set"? Did you mean "Sat"? do you have problems with verbs you should have learned in the first grade, or are you a Russian Troll?

Point was, sit ins weren't getting the job done. If you should be upset with anyone, it should be the leaders who sent men there knowing damned well the war was unwinnable and the Saigon regime would collapse the minute we stopped propping it up. The ironic thing is that Vietnam is our friend today. We do a lot of business there.

nd when was Jane Fonda every canceled? She suffered no work issues from that picture and trip

Actually, her career was pretty much over by 1985.

1) you have no idea if money was even transferred. They reached an agreement for the grievance letter that the Players Union filed on his behalf. Moreover, as I highlighted two teams were interested, one about to make an offer, he was not "blackballed" .... in fact, after the agreement over the grievance letter settlement, the NFL, in an unprecedented move (likely part of the agreement) arranged for a private combine for him, with all the teams being present. All attended, but thirty mins before the start time, CK pulled out....
2) really? ok white flag noted
3) well considering the event in your pic took place in the early 70s, it would seem it didn't.....if over a decade later her career stalled.....and actually she was making films almost yearly til 1990, then took some time off (which is also about the time she married Ted Tuner) ....before coming back in 2005 Jane Fonda filmography

She was never canceled, even though she committed an horrible act.

For which thousands of Vietnam Vets will never forgiver her for.

and they shouldn't.

 

[schmidlap]

Not to mention a third rate quarterback who'll never get a job in any league.

Not to mention all the third rate quarterbacks that are employed in the NFL.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You have yet to illustrate one racist example from her. I ll patiently wait for you to do so.

Apparently, this actress has posted quite a number of crackpot instagrams that caused he to be fired. Private enterprise cannot be forced to employ anyone who habitually expresses aberrant views that are detrimental to corporate interests.

A Lucasfilm spokesperson explained, “Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”

I am asking for a racist example. Thanks. Learn to read.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not to mention a third rate quarterback who'll never get a job in any league.

Not to mention all the third rate quarterbacks that are employed in the NFL.

You must be an Eagles fan. LOL

 

[schmidlap]

For which thousands of Vietnam Vets will never forgiver her for.

Of course, Fonda has accepted responsibility and apologized repeatedly for the “Hanoi Jane” photo, and clarified that her actions during the Vietnam War were in protest of the U.S. government and not against soldiers.

if anyone is still sulking over it, that is his right.

"Someone (I don’t remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. The cameras flash. I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. Oh, my God. It’s going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! I plead with him, 'You have to be sure those photographs are not published. Please, you can’t let them be published.' I am assured it will be taken care of. I don’t know what else to do. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. If they did, can I really blame them? The buck stops here. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it."​

The Complicated Story Behind Jane Fonda’s ‘Hanoi Jane’ Nickname

Megyn Kelly once called Fonda "synonymous with outrage"

time.com

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Whilst we grasp at diversions among the minutia of yesteryear, here is one that contrasts with Fonda's honestly accepting responsibility:​

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"I don't take responsibility at all!"​

'I don't take responsibility at all': Trump deflects blame for coronavirus testing fumble

Trump has spent weeks downplaying the virus' outbreak.

www.politico.com

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[struth]

For which thousands of Vietnam Vets will never forgiver her for.

Of course, Fonda has accepted responsibility and apologized repeatedly for the “Hanoi Jane” photo, and clarified that her actions during the Vietnam War were in protest of the U.S. government and not against soldiers.

if anyone is still sulking over it, that is his right.

"Someone (I don’t remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. The cameras flash. I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. Oh, my God. It’s going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! I plead with him, 'You have to be sure those photographs are not published. Please, you can’t let them be published.' I am assured it will be taken care of. I don’t know what else to do. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. If they did, can I really blame them? The buck stops here. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it."​

The Complicated Story Behind Jane Fonda’s ‘Hanoi Jane’ Nickname

Megyn Kelly once called Fonda "synonymous with outrage"

time.com

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Whilst we grasp at diversions among the minutia of yesteryear, here is one that contrasts with Fonda's honestly accepting responsibility:​

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"I don't take responsibility at all!"​

'I don't take responsibility at all': Trump deflects blame for coronavirus testing fumble

Trump has spent weeks downplaying the virus' outbreak.

www.politico.com

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I am sure she has, and it's great she did decades later....like a lot of libs, she was used because of her lack of knowledge.


Was Trump sitting on a anti-aircraft gun that was being used to kill US servicemen?

 

[schmidlap]

I am asking for a racist example. Thanks. Learn to read.

I hoped that you might learn of the nature of the actress's incipid ideas, denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities.
When she whined that being conservative these days is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany, she minimized the inhuman treatment of Holocaust victims. Nazis tried to exterminate Jews based on their supposed racial distinctiveness.

Are Jews a "race"?

DNA links prove Jews are a 'race,' says genetics expert

Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.

www.haaretz.com

 

[2aguy]

Since he led San Francisco to its first Super Bowl appearance in 18 years in 2012, Kaepernick's production has tapered off significantly. The quarterback's already-low completion percentage dipped well below 60 percent in 2015 and 2016 and he has struggled to make strong throws past 10 yards and outside the numbers.

But here's the point. There are a lot of mediocre QB's who still have jobs.. Like Trubinsky.

The fact was, the NFL DID conspire not to sign him because of the Kneeling thing.

He walked away from 17 million dollars.........he walked away from being hired by other teams.....he was offered a private work out to try out for other teams ......

He was done with the game and was looking for a way to make fame and money...and he found it by pushing racism and anti-Americanism...

 

[2aguy]

She sided with the enemy, as are you, apparently. You're a traitorous little bitch, too...

Why were the Vietnamese "the enemy", exactly? Because they didn't want the kind of government that we thought they should have? We inflicted untold misery on those people fighting a war that our own military leaders concluded was unwinnable.

They were part of an expansionist belief system.....communism......and our fighting them kept them from spreading it throughout Asia......

We won the war......then the democrats cut off military aid to South Vietnam and let the North take control of the entire country...you idiot.

 

[2aguy]

Moron....jane fonda had a long career after she sided with the mass murdering communists in Vietnam, you idiot....

She starred in films and was an exercise sensation...you dumb ass....she is the least canceled person in the world....

1972 was when she posed with the mass murdering communist vietnamese...

Now......tell us this is how she was canceled....you dumb ass...you don't even know what you are fucking talking about....

Again, looking at her IMDB page, her career was pretty much over by 1985, that's the point. She became box office poison, and they stopped casting her. Most of the movies you cite were done by her own production company.

This is something you like to do, spooge the page with walls of text... but the reality is, Jane Fonda paid a professional price for her advocacy... and she's a much better Actress than Gina Carano, someone who plays third to a Puppet and a guy with a bucket on his head.

You are an idiot........I listed her awards and wealth created long after 1972...........her greatest money making movies happened after taking the photo with the mass murdering communists, you dishonest piece of shit....

Coming Home
On Golden Pond
9-5
Electric Horseman
Her dominance in the video exercise industry..

You are a lying piece of crap.

 

[2aguy]

I am asking for a racist example. Thanks. Learn to read.

I hoped that you might learn of the nature of the actress's incipid ideas, denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities.
When she whined that being conservative these days is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany, she minimized the inhuman treatment of Holocaust victims. Nazis tried to exterminate Jews based on their supposed racial distinctiveness.

Are Jews a "race"?

DNA links prove Jews are a 'race,' says genetics expert

Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.

www.haaretz.com

And you didn't post any of what she tweeted...because if you did, normal people would see you are insane....

Nothing she tweeted was offensive or wrong...you idiot...but you pretend it is and hide what she posted because you don't want people to know what she actually said.......

 

[2aguy]

I am asking for a racist example. Thanks. Learn to read.

I hoped that you might learn of the nature of the actress's incipid ideas, denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities.
When she whined that being conservative these days is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany, she minimized the inhuman treatment of Holocaust victims. Nazis tried to exterminate Jews based on their supposed racial distinctiveness.

Are Jews a "race"?

DNA links prove Jews are a 'race,' says genetics expert

Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.

www.haaretz.com

She never mentioned "conservative" in her tweet, you lying sack of shit.......how about you quote exactly what she said....so people who don't know what she said can see what a dishonest asshole you are...

 

[Crepitus]

I personally know several little bitches on the left who felt he should not be allowed to put his faith on display as he did, and that he should be removed from the roster

Who?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

What have Conservatives canceled lately? Care to explain?

See the OP.

So, you don't have any yourself?

So, you can't address the ones in the OP?

I addressed the ones in the op, you dumb ass....

I wasn't talking to you, you stupid fuck.

You got a nice list of excuses but you didn't actually address the point, you dumb ass.

You moron.

Temper, temper Jerry.

I respond in kind. Rather telling that you only see the one side. Just like with cancel culture.

There is a cancel culture and censorship. I myself have been censored on many social media platforms for going against the agenda.

Good.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The biggest example of right wing cancel culture were the red scares and Joe McCarthy.

Yeah....in the 50's and 60's there were many on the right who were totally behind breaking phonograph records and trying to ban groups such as the Beatles!

Hollywood was ruled by cancel culture..for 50 years and more.

Just goes to show..that the more fanatical someone is..regardless of ideological position..the more willing they are to make our choices for us..or ensure we have no choice at all!

 

[Utilitarian]

Of course, his wokeness doesn't extend to the fact that Nike employs Uighur slave labor, but I know your opinion on that is that it doesn't matter. Only American lives matter, eh?

We've been running around the world killing Muslim Terrorists for the last 30 years, why are we giving China shit for killing Muslim terrorists in their own country? Also, given our use of slave labor in the Prison-Industrial Complex in this country, we don't have a lot of room to talk. America needs to clean up her own act before we start criticizing anyone else.

Seriously? You're going with the "Uighurs are terrorists" argument? You're either a wumao or a complete idiot. Either way, I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Damn you’re stupid. Michael Brown attacked a cop and tried to steal his gun. And he never had his hands up dumbfuck. Per eyewitnesses. Most of whom were black.

Actually, most of the eyewitnesses said he had his hands up.

Georgie boy Floyd had enough Fentanyl in his system to drop more than one man. He was dead already. The medical examiners said drug overdose.

Nope. They ruled it a homicide.

Two autopsies both find George Floyd died by homicide, but differ on some key details

The county medical examiner and independent forensic pathologists commissioned by Floyd's family both released autopsy reports.

www.cbsnews.com

Breonna Taylor was harboring known drug dealers. Bad things tend to happen when you do that. Keep eating the bullshit, your Dem leaders just laugh as you repeat the talking points.

The drug dealer they were looking for didn't live there, and they already had him in custody.

Certainly no reason to go kicking down the door at 1 AM and shooting up the place.

I love shoving your face in your bullshit. Discovery would have buried Kraperlimpdick. He REFUSED two contract offers (Baltimore and Denver) Meaning you don’t get to cry collusion. The NFL settled (and for a LOT less than Kraperlimpdick wanted) because the idiot woulda have just kept appealing and it would have cost more to carry on the court cases than they paid the crybaby.

Point was, THEY did settle, probably because they would have found collusion.

Did Colin Kaepernick really turn down offers to play football? If so, why isn't this publicized? - Quora

Kaepernick had a contract with the 49ers set to pay him $12 million. John Elway’s Broncos needed a quarterback and were willing to trade for Kaepernick, but they didn’t want to pay him $12 million. John said he’d go through with the trade if he only had to pay Kaepernick $7 million. The 49ers didn’t want to subsidize the Broncos and Kaep didn’t want to take a $5 million pay cut.

It made zero sense for him to take the contract at the time.

Actually, most of the eyewitnesses said he had his hands up.

Was that before or after he assaulted the cop and tried to take his gun?
Were his hands up when he ran back toward the cop to attack him again?

 

[Canon Shooter]

The same reason why Disney fired Gina Carano.

Um, right.

Please point out where I've ever said that Carano shouldn't have been fired, or that her employer didn't have the right to do it.

I'll wait...

Last time I checked, Presidents aren't royalty.... So you are going to shut the fuck up about PRESIDENT Biden for the next four years, right?

Why would I do that?

How stupid of you to even suggest it.

Here's the thing, pinhead: I will always share my opinion. I will also always accept full responsibility for sharing that opinion. If my customers decide they don't want to use my services anymore because they don't agree with me politically, that's fine. I accept that as result of me sharing my opinion. You seem to think that the Dixie Chicks got a raw deal. Fuck 'em; they're smart women. They should've realized what could happen...

Really? What was his MOS. I'm guessing it wasn't 11B.

I have no idea. When my cousin was over there I was all of 8 years old. But I know he as awarded a Bronze Star with the "V" device and two Purple Heart medals.

He wasn't sitting behind a desk, which is what it seems you're ignorantly suggesting...

 

[schmidlap]

Was Trump sitting on a anti-aircraft gun that was being used to kill US servicemen?

The failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer has inflicted more damage on the nation that a young, admittedly naïve actress ever could. She, having honestly acknowledged and apologized for her error, went on to a very successful career. He, being far too weak to ever admit to error, has been judged by the American electorate and will while away his dotage amidst criminal and civil prosecution, and fiscal duress.