Congratulations to the President. Trump's tariffs are winning...

[Mac1958]

you guys

 

[berg80]

Did you see this?

Hassett says authors of New York Fed tariff study should be disciplined: 'Worst paper I've ever seen'

The NEC director ripped the report, saying that central bank researchers ignored key aspects of how the duties worked

www.cnbc.com

Oh how they hate the truth.

 

[Mac1958]

Did you see this?

Hassett says authors of New York Fed tariff study should be disciplined: 'Worst paper I've ever seen'

The NEC director ripped the report, saying that central bank researchers ignored key aspects of how the duties worked

www.cnbc.com

Oh how they hate the truth.

"Should be disciplined". For issuing a report based on numbers.

Sending a clear message to them, and to any other group that dares to release info Trump doesn't like.

And I continue to wonder if the people who support threats like this are actually fascists or just useful idiots.

The world has seen this all before. I don't know how we didn't learn.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

He will ignore it...... until the next one and when that doesn't pan out he'll ignore that

Trump's tariff policy is a failure, as is Trump.

 

[CowboyTed]

The E.U had a $28B trade surplus with us last year. Even though they have 10x our population they still imported far less than they exported to us.

The differences in debt is due to the U.S government carrying the debt NOT individual.citizens personal debt. Canadian personal debt is 103% of GDP, U.S is over 80% and U.S over 70%. As with all centralized systems, we are being decimated by the government passing the debt onto citizens, no worse place than Ontario. The RCMP and their surrogates laugh at how naive you are.

In essence, our government across decades sold us out to prop up a few corporations and China. Simple as that:


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First trade... So Canadians have bought more products... So what...

Try

They believe that the way Trump does things is the ONLY way they can be done. In EVERYTHING.

Do we always want to optimize our trade agreements? Of course, obviously. But is the ONLY WAY TO DO IT by insulting, threatening, punishing, extorting, mocking and intimidating our trade partners, creating a chaos and instability for them that they can't tolerate?

A person who actually believes that is -- and this is not a word I normally like to use -- stupid.

The way to deal with trade is unilateral with your allies. this was what TPP was about. This trade block was to deal with not only China but all the BRICS countries.
trump pulled out before he knew what he was doing. Biden couldn’t rejoin because no one believed US was a serious country while MAGA about.

Well, it's who he is at his core. He's a predator, like a jungle animal, and he doesn't care who he hurts or what the long term effects of his actions are. And that's because he knows he'll never take responsibility for any of it.

He is a true, literal malignant narcissist. He's profoundly damaged, but charismatic and mercurial, like most cult leaders.

Not so much a predator more like a vulture… He feeds off the weak and dying..
Trump never knew what reputation in business means… He thought it was something ‘Elites’ had and he was allowed, couldn’t seem to connect it to his actions.
He was embittered as to he was shunned in higher social circles in New York. He was because he hung around with Epstein, Mob bosses, he was chasing women of his daughters age and younger, he was constantly two timing his wives, he was crude and vulgar….
This isn’t a class thing, it isn’t about money, Trump is just basically a scumbag, we know them… No honor and never spend them money or do business with them..

 

[Mac1958]

He was embittered as to he was shunned in higher social circles in New York. He was because he hung around with Epstein, Mob bosses, he was chasing women of his daughters age and younger, he was constantly two timing his wives, he was crude and vulgar….
This isn’t a class thing, it isn’t about money, Trump is just basically a scumbag, we know them… No honor and never spend them money or do business with them..

I get the feeling it's finally dawned on him that he's never going to be accepted by the intellectual class, despite his desperate and neverending claims of brilliance. His success, such as it is given what he started off with, has always been in simply mauling people. You can do that to some people -- especially craven, shameless politicians -- but not to national or world leaders.

So he'll settle for the street rubes and the women of Mar A Lago, who somehow manage to wear even more makeup than he does. For everyone else, it's just about revenge.

 

[22lcidw]

First trade... So Canadians have bought more products... So what...

Try

The way to deal with trade is unilateral with your allies. this was what TPP was about. This trade block was to deal with not only China but all the BRICS countries.
trump pulled out before he knew what he was doing. Biden couldn’t rejoin because no one believed US was a serious country while MAGA about.


Not so much a predator more like a vulture… He feeds off the weak and dying..
Trump never knew what reputation in business means… He thought it was something ‘Elites’ had and he was allowed, couldn’t seem to connect it to his actions.
He was embittered as to he was shunned in higher social circles in New York. He was because he hung around with Epstein, Mob bosses, he was chasing women of his daughters age and younger, he was constantly two timing his wives, he was crude and vulgar….
This isn’t a class thing, it isn’t about money, Trump is just basically a scumbag, we know them… No honor and never spend them money or do business with them..

Trump is a Progressive lover's wet dream. He ran in the wrong party to them. He saw an opening that the Republicans gave him from their endless pushing of RINOS as candidates for President as the voters begged them to stop. I tis not like Trump does not have many RINO policies. It is the globalist concerns they love and a couple other of things they hate his guts with including not having total control.

 

[The Duke]

International rebellion as Canada's PM leads 40 nations in plan to buck Trump

Carney is now the global trade leader. He appreciates it!

"Canada has a GDP of $2.24T compared to $28.8T for the United States, ranking 9/197 and 1/197 by economy size, respectively."

Economy of Canada vs United States: GDP, Debt & 69 stats

Canada has a GDP of $2.24T compared to $28.8T for the United States, ranking 9/197 and 1/197 by economy size, respectively.

georank.org

FAIL, Mac.

 

[Muhammed]

Carney is now the global trade leader.

Howso?

THINK!

 

[Nostra]

Trump's tariff policy is a failure.

How so?

Be specific C_Clayton_Jones

 

[Nostra]

"Canada has a GDP of $2.24T compared to $28.8T for the United States, ranking 9/197 and 1/197 by economy size, respectively."

Economy of Canada vs United States: GDP, Debt & 69 stats

Canada has a GDP of $2.24T compared to $28.8T for the United States, ranking 9/197 and 1/197 by economy size, respectively.

georank.org

FAIL, Mac.

As I posted earlier, Kanada’s per capita GDP would rank 50th out of 51 states if they were a state. Only ahead of Mississippi.

 

[Clipper]

Today's Nrw Yo

Wait a minute. Wait a damn minute here.

Are you saying that insults, mockery, extortion, trolling, namecalling, threatening and punishing other countries and their leaders is not a brilliant trade tactic, one that builds long term relationships that play directly to American interests? Are you saying that constantly changing those agreements based on how Trump thinks he is treated is not a solid approach on the global stage?

Are you saying that using people who most effusively and shamelessly kiss Trump's ass during meetings and people who have a vested personal financial interest in ******* other countries over is not more important than using mature, professional, stable, experienced, effective trade experts and negotiators?

What are YOU, a COMMIE?????

Today's New York Daily News Editorial in describing the Trump Presidency- "The Most Powerful Crime Syndicate In History".

I'll just let that lay here to trigger Trump's MAGA flunky's.

Wait for it.

 

[Clipper]

I don't know who has convinced him that the HA HA HA **** YOU TOUGH SHIT LOL approach to foreign policy and trade is the smart one

On the other hand, it's the only approach in which he has experience and aptitude.

This may have worked in NY City commercial real estate, but it doesn't work in intelligent geopolitics.

The two-bit hustler & conman from Queens thought his antics would work on European leader's like it did in the Big Apple.

 

[Mac1958]

Today's New York Daily News Editorial in describing the Trump Presidency- "The Most Powerful Crime Syndicate In History".

That's exactly what it is.

Imagine a Mafia family with unlimited funds and the world's greatest military.

 

[Correll]

What is 'this' and what is the metric for failure?

THIS is the trade bloc that we were discussing. Success would be if they manage to get trade among themselves to benefit themselves to the point that they replace trade with the US and can do fine without US.

 

[Correll]

I'll answer.

I'll admit to it.

Now your turn.

If it succeeds and the US loses a significant part of trade in the global trade market. Will you admit Trump screwed you? Or will it be somebody elses fault?

The result would have to be WORSE than the previous status quo, which was ******* me and mine. For generations.

But if that occurrs, where they shut us out and do fine without us, while we are hurt even more than we were being fucked before?

They yes, I will admit that we overplayed our hand and it did not work.

 

[j-mac]

... for our former friends, allies and trading partners.

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Canada Leads New 40-Nation Trade Bloc
Carney Surprises Trump With 40-Nation Alliance Against MAGA
Can smaller economies really create a new world trade order? Yes, they can.

...further formalizing Prime Minister Mark Carney’s trade diversification strategy — an alliance among Canada, the 27-member European Union and the 12-nation Indo-Pacific bloc — is now under negotiation, with Canada spearheading the talks.

And, in the face of an apparent divide-and-conquer strategy from Washington against CUSMA’s other two signatories, the Carney government has this week deployed a 370-person business delegation to Mexico led by Canada-U.S. Trade Minister Dominic Leblanc.

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Europe, Canada, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, South Korea, the European Union, Canada, Japan, Singapore, Uruguay, Saudi America, Mexico. That's a good start.

Now that America is viewed as essentially a Mafia organization -- you'd better deal with us only if you absolutely HAVE to -- we have done the world a favor by demonstrating that we're not needed as much as the world thought. That will help us hide from everyone as much as possible. American exporters will suffer for this, but they're just commie whiners!

Trump's "**** you, you need us more than we need you, so we're going to insult, mock, troll, namecall, threaten and punish you all we want, so tough shit" foreign policy is Winning!

Explain this Mac….why is it just fine to have every other nation levy tariffs on the US, put up trade barriers on the US, but when we do it back, it’s wrong?

Can you explain that?

 

[j-mac]

You'll have to ask someone who made that prediction. I did not.

I don't need you to believe that.

There’s that financial wizardry on display…Can’t even give your own analysis…

 

[forkup]

The result would have to be WORSE than the previous status quo, which was ******* me and mine. For generations.

But if that occurrs, where they shut us out and do fine without us, while we are hurt even more than we were being fucked before?

They yes, I will admit that we overplayed our hand and it did not work.

Fair enough, except for the second paragraph.

I don’t think how the rest of the world does without the U.S. is necessarily relevant to the question of whether Trump's policy benefits the U.S. It’s entirely possible for the global situation to deteriorate without that being caused by a refusal to kowtow to the U.S. Those two things don’t have to be causally linked.

In fact, my expectation is that both giving in to Trump and resisting him will produce adverse consequences, just different kinds of adverse consequences.

The second part of your paragraph, however, is more straightforward. And I agree that from your perspective, that should be the relevant criterion:
Will the U.S. fare better or worse under Trump’s foreign economic policy?

But that raises two further questions:
What counts as “better” or “worse”?
And over what time frame are we evaluating the outcome?

 

[Correll]

Fair enough, except for the second paragraph.

I don’t think how the rest of the world does without the U.S. is necessarily relevant to the question of whether Trump's policy benefits the U.S. It’s entirely possible for the global situation to deteriorate without that being caused by a refusal to kowtow to the U.S. Those two things don’t have to be causally linked.

In fact, my expectation is that both giving in to Trump and resisting him will produce adverse consequences, just different kinds of adverse consequences.

The second part of your paragraph, however, is more straightforward. And I agree that from your perspective, that should be the relevant criterion:
Will the U.S. fare better or worse under Trump’s foreign economic policy?

But that raises two further questions:
What counts as “better” or “worse”?
And over what time frame are we evaluating the outcome?

I would think just about ALL of them, barring massive policy reversal.

This is a pivotal moment and I think the trade relations we forge now will define a lot of the economy for quite a while.


BETTER, counts, imo, as a middle class income rising faster than inflation, over the long term.