Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

[Ray From Cleveland]

overned equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

That may be, but it doesn't turn a right into a privilege.

 

[Vrenn]

But guns get misused. All I am trying to do is to agree with the "LAW" that limits the amount of ammo carried. That, alone, keeps the body count to a lower level when they ARE misused.

You have zero evidence to backup that claim.

How about the lack of proof as in, the mass shootings going for the "NEW" record stopped.

 

[Vrenn]

overned equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

That may be, but it doesn't turn a right into a privilege.

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How about the lack of proof as in, the mass shootings going for the "NEW" record stopped.

I have no idea what that even means. How many rounds a magazine carries is irrelevant in a mass murders given how quickly they can be changed, as the video I posted demonstrated. Maybe if somebody killed 100 people but only got 99 instead, but that's not any kind of improvement.

If I'm shooting into a crowd of people, unlike a rifle, I can keep shooting with one hand while my other is reaching for a new magazine.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

I'm say it is a right. You stated rights are turned to privileges which I disagree with. A court can't do that. Now, rights may have limitations, but they can't be changed into a privilege. Driving is a privilege, bearing arms is a right.

 

[westwall]

But guns get misused. All I am trying to do is to agree with the "LAW" that limits the amount of ammo carried. That, alone, keeps the body count to a lower level when they ARE misused.

You have zero evidence to backup that claim.

How about the lack of proof as in, the mass shootings going for the "NEW" record stopped.

Norway, every gun law you want and more 70+ dead.

Paris, every gun law you want and more
130+ dead.

Looks like gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Please explain why this is so important to you to have an AR-15. We had guns in the house in leather locked bags and we shot them. I even pulled the trigger when my father sighted. He taught me to never pull a gun on any living being. I violated this teaching once, in Castroville, Texas, when I was 12 and practicing with my aunt's pistol. I shot at a spider on the back of the garage.

Explain yourself and why you would need an assault weapon.

Superiority of firepower. At least parody of firepower. That's why. That's more explanation than you're entitled to.

Why do you need such "firepower"? I am entitled to an explanation because I live in this country and guns are designed to be pointed at other people.

So that I can outgun my attacker, or at lesst be on equal terms. You're all about equal rights. Yes?

Who is your "attacker:? Where in the hell do you live??? I live a few highway stops from the Pentagon and I'm not scared. Are you scared of being in the US?

No matter who my attacker is, I'm pretty much assured that I'll have the upper hand.

I'm not afraid to live in the U.S. Obviously you are, since you want to ban guns. Why are you afraid of law abiding citizens? I bet you lock your doors at night and have a security system. Is that because you're afraid of something?

 

[westwall]

overned equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

That may be, but it doesn't turn a right into a privilege.

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

No, he's saying you are mis reading it.

Well regulated, at the time it was written, meant "in good working order".

Clocks made in that time are engraved with the term well regulated.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

overned equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

That may be, but it doesn't turn a right into a privilege.

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

The last part of thr 2nd Amendment literally says gun ownership is a right...lol

 

[woodwork201]

There you go again, lumping ALL Democrats in with the fringes. And you would be wrong.

All Democrats are lumped with the fringes - unless you know a Democrat that voted for Trump.

Every Democrat voted for a Democratic representative which kept Pelosi and her fringe in power in the House.
Every Democrat voted for a Democratic senator which will likely give Schumer what he needs to end the filibuster and hand the country to the fringes.
Every Democrat voted for President Harris, the most left member of the Senate when she was in it and she loves hard co...........core..yes, that's the word. Hard core communists.

In spite of their loud cries otherwise, there's no such thing as a pro-2nd Amendment Democrat. There's no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. When you vote for the party whose primary goals are abortion, socialism, and gun confiscation then you cannot claim that you do not support those things. You do not vote to support those things because you think the minimum wage should be increased.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Rights are when it doesn't interfere with the public safety of others. At that point it changes from a right to a privilege.

No, our rights for this country are written down in the US Constitution, and none of them become a privilege for any reason. They may be governed, but not changed.

Governed equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

Where does Heller say that?

 

[Vrenn]

How about the lack of proof as in, the mass shootings going for the "NEW" record stopped.

I have no idea what that even means. How many rounds a magazine carries is irrelevant in a mass murders given how quickly they can be changed, as the video I posted demonstrated. Maybe if somebody killed 100 people but only got 99 instead, but that's not any kind of improvement.

If I'm shooting into a crowd of people, unlike a rifle, I can keep shooting with one hand while my other is reaching for a new magazine.

The best you can hope for today with a handgun or normal semi auto rifle would be about 20 people before you are stopped. And that would be if the person was highly skilled like the Ex-Marine in California that had to be taken down by superior fire power and numbers. But in the hands of someone experienced, that body count could have easily been much, much higher had he used an AR with multiple 30 round mags. Yah, I know, the same can be said about a Mini-14 with 30 round mags but unlike the AR, it takes both hands to change the mags in a Mini-14, therefore slower fire rate overall. Just those 2 or 3 seconds will save lives but not enough. Lower the mag limits to 15 like the Courts had suggested. Make you have to reload more times. And you can only carry so many mags at a time. Most would carry 1 in the gun and 3 or 4 in a vest or belt. Anything past that really gets in the way and you clink when you walk.

 

[Vrenn]

There you go again, lumping ALL Democrats in with the fringes. And you would be wrong.

All Democrats are lumped with the fringes - unless you know a Democrat that voted for Trump.

Every Democrat voted for a Democratic representative which kept Pelosi and her fringe in power in the House.
Every Democrat voted for a Democratic senator which will likely give Schumer what he needs to end the filibuster and hand the country to the fringes.
Every Democrat voted for President Harris, the most left member of the Senate when she was in it and she loves hard co...........core..yes, that's the word. Hard core communists.

In spite of their loud cries otherwise, there's no such thing as a pro-2nd Amendment Democrat. There's no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. When you vote for the party whose primary goals are abortion, socialism, and gun confiscation then you cannot claim that you do not support those things. You do not vote to support those things because you think the minimum wage should be increased.

I know a bunch of Republicans that didn't vote for Rump. A lot of them. Doesn't make them fringe Democrats.

 

[Vrenn]

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

I'm say it is a right. You stated rights are turned to privileges which I disagree with. A court can't do that. Now, rights may have limitations, but they can't be changed into a privilege. Driving is a privilege, bearing arms is a right.

Symatics, Symatics.

 

[woodwork201]

But guns get misused. All I am trying to do is to agree with the "LAW" that limits the amount of ammo carried. That, alone, keeps the body count to a lower level when they ARE misused.

This is an unsubstantiated, and unsubstantiatable, lie. There are several states where high-capacity magazines are illegal. Name a single shooting in one of those states that ended because the shooter ran out of magazines or ammunition.

 

[Vrenn]

overned equals Regulated. As in for the good of the general Public Safety in this case. I, for one, don't take the last part of the 2nd amendment verbatum. And neither did Hell V which is the gold standard for Gun Laws in this Nation.

That may be, but it doesn't turn a right into a privilege.

Then you are saying that the last part of the 2nd Amendment is not a Right?

The last part of thr 2nd Amendment literally says gun ownership is a right...lol

No it doesn't. It says you have the right to bear arms. It doesn't say what arms or where you can have them. You want it to read the way you think it does, get a 2/3rds Congress Vote for it or go the Continental Congress Route.

 

[Vrenn]

But guns get misused. All I am trying to do is to agree with the "LAW" that limits the amount of ammo carried. That, alone, keeps the body count to a lower level when they ARE misused.

This is an unsubstantiated, and unsubstantiatable, lie. There are several states where high-capacity magazines are illegal. Name a single shooting in one of those states that ended because the shooter ran out of magazines or ammunition.

Aurora, Colorado.

 

[jackflash]

Hey...Daryl hunt........you were saying about the colorado AR-15 ban?

Now, a Colorado judge has tossed the AR-15 ban in the trash bin, along with the provision prohibiting ownership of magazines that carry more than 10 rounds. That’s the backdoor gun ban right there. It’s not just about the rifle. It’s about curbing constitutional gun rights by these magazine laws.

A host of firearms that aren’t AR-15 rifles have magazines with more than 10 rounds. This law would effectively ban them too.


We all see what you’re doing here, liberal America (via Free Beacon):

A judge struck down Boulder, Colorado's ban on the possession of AR-15s and magazines holding more than 10 rounds on Monday.
Colorado state judge Andrew Hartman ruled the city's gun ban violated the state's preemption law, which prevents localities from imposing gun regulations above and beyond state law. Judge Hartman's ruling declares the ordinance invalid and immediately bars the city from enforcing the ban.
"The Court has determined that only Colorado state (or federal) law can prohibit the possession, sale, and transfer of assault weapons and large capacity magazines," Hartman wrote in the ruling.
The ruling is the latest in a string of victories for gun advocates who have used state preemption laws to overturn strict local gun regulations. A Washington court struck down a local ordinance on gun storage in February 2021, and a Pennsylvania court struck down Pittsburgh's attempt to regulate the use of AR-15s inside city limits in October 2019.
Jon Caldara, a longtime Boulder resident who openly flouted the AR-15 ban, said he was "thrilled" by the ruling. The former Denver Post columnist and Independence Institute president publicly announced he would not comply with the order to turn over his AR-15 or ammunition magazines when the ban was instituted in 2019. He filed a separate federal suit against the ordinance and said his family has received backlash from supporters ever since.
"I was probably the most publicly known criminal in Boulder," he told the Washington Free Beacon. "That made us social outcasts. And it was really bad. My daughter got bullied at school for our position."

Colorado Judge Takes a Katana to Boulder's AR-15 Ban

We touched on this back in 2018. Boulder, Colorado was pushing to ban owning AR-15 rifles. They’re c

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Gun control falls into the other ban/control categories throughout history: book burning, speech control(PC), tobacco control, pornography bans, clothing bans, knife bans, slingshot bans, alcohol control, nuclear weapon bans, homosexuality bans, obesity control, rec drug bans, prostitution bans, hate bans, internal combustion engine bans, junk food control & thousands of other items, activities & ideas through the years. Victimless so called crimes are the product of the busy body power & control narcissists that continue to plague every society upon our planet earth.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You didn't answer my question Moon Bat.

How are my firearms a threat to your ***** ass?

you mean other than you might have a "Really bad day" and shoot up some place that I am at.

The best argument for gun control is a five minute conversation with a gun nut.

So lets break it down by the numbers.

in 2019 10189 people were murdered by a person using a firearm. (Notice I didn't say murdered by a gun. That's because guns can't murder anyone)

That's .003% of the population.

So for the entire year of 2019 you had a .003% chance of being murdered by a person with a gun.

Actually the percentage is far lower than that since something like eighty percent of gun deaths are criminal on criminal violence. If you are a law-abiding citizen living in a normal area your chance of dying by any kind of violence drops to nearly zero.

 

[freyasman]

No.