Class action suit atainst the president!

[Luddly Neddite]

Bachmann said it and Rand Paul has sent out fundraiser letters saying he wants a class action suit against President Obama.

And, of course, they fantasize about impeachment too.

Now, I know the usual kneejerkers will say stupid things but how about, just for once, we actually go for FACTS.

What grounds are there to do either?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Rand Paul Suing Obama - Fox Nation

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is suing the Obama administration over the National Security Agency’s spying practices in an effort to “protect the Fourth Amendment,” he told host Eric Bolling Friday on "Hannity."

“The question here is whether or not, constitutionally, you can have a single warrant apply to millions of people,” Paul said. “So we thought, what better way to illustrate the point than having hundreds of thousands of Americans sign up for a class action suit.”

Paul said he began collecting signatures about six months ago, and says it’s “kind of an unusual class-action suit” because everyone in America who has a cell phone is eligible to join in the legal action, he said.

He added that Ken Cuccinelli, the current attorney general of Virginia who ran for governor last year, is part of the initiative’s legal team.

“We’re hoping, with his help, that we can get a hearing in court, and ultimately get this class-action lawsuit, I think the first of its kind on a constitutional question, all the way to the Supreme Court,” Paul said.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Idiot is suing the NSA too.

Paul to file NSA suit within days | TheHill

No wonder he doesn't have time to actually do his job.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Typical libtard thinking there is no case. Idiots.

 

[AVG-JOE]

If the charges worth suing over are that obvious and easy, list them.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Holy cats!

A leftist wingnut arguing in favor of the police state and potential/probable violations of civil liberties!

I'm speechless.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Typical libtard thinking there is no case. Idiots.

Rand Paul is not a liberal. Neither is Michelle Bachmann.

Bachmann: House preparing to sue Obama for overreach | The Daily Caller

Bachmann said an effort is underway in Congress to take back their “authority under the Constitution as the House of Representatives.” She said the plan is to introduce legislation allowing lawmakers to hire an attorney, so “we can force the president to act under the Constitution.”

“We’ll sue the president of the United States and force him to no longer act unilaterally,” she said.

Read more: Bachmann: House preparing to sue Obama for overreach | The Daily Caller

I'm gonna miss Ms Ditz.

 

[MACAULAY]

I will gladly sign up to be a member of the class.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

And, of course, they fantasize about impeachment
What grounds are there to do either?

Hold on, let me help you:

1. Admitted execution of Ibragim Todashev by the FBI via 7 bullets to back of head
   http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...i-shooting-death-tamerlan-tsarnaev-associate/
   
2. Suspending Jury Trials for Americans (NDAA)
   
3. Assassinating Americans (Michael Hastings, Breitbart, Seal Team 6 ---even Breitbart's Coroner!)
   
4. Drone strikes on Americans
   
5. The Arrest of Adam Kokesh
   
6. The SWAT team invasion of a man's home for an empty shotgun shell
   
7. 55,000,000 babies murdered.
   
8. Fluoride in your drinking water.
   
9. Chicago
   
10. 17,000,000,000,000 debt and climbing.
    
11. Trayvon Martin drama and attempt to usurp double jeopardy clause
    
12. Destabilizing the Middle East.
    
13. Detroit
    
14. Mock-child sacrifice rituals at the Bohemian Grove
    
15. Spying on All Americans.
    
16. Camden
    
17. Kidnapping Americans (NDAA)
    
    
18. New Orleans
    
19. Suspending Habaes Corpus for Americas (NDAA)
    
20. Para-militarizing the police
    
21. California
    
22. Flying drones over US skies
    
23. Senator Dianne Frankenstein
    
24. Declaring Libertarians and Constitutionalists Terrorists.
    
25. Labeling the Founding Fathers Extremists
    
26. Senator John McLame
    
27. Gun Grabbing
    
28. SCOTUS usurping the Right to Contract --- under the guise of tax.
    
29. Fiat currency.
    
30. Rewarding foreign corporations and manufacturing
    
31. Closing down United States power plants, forcing us to buy Mexican power.
    
32. Senator Lindsey Scam
    
33. Arming Al Qaeda
    
34. FORCING jobs overseas via tax/regulations
    
35. Training Al Qaeda
    
36. FEMA camps
    
37. Funding Al Qaeda
    
38. DHS purchasing 2 billion + rounds of hollow point ammunition
    
39. Directing Al Qaeda
    
40. O'Babble
    
41. GMO poisoning
    
42. Gitmo
    
43. 9-11 investigation
    
44. No-Knock Warrants
    
45. Red-Light Cameras with extremely short YELLOW lights
    
46. Torture
    
47. New Orleans
    
48. Electronically rigged voting and Gerrymandering
    
49. State rights?
    
50. The War on Drugs (The War on Black People)
    
51. Senator Dick Turdin
    
52. Gun Free School Zones
    
53. Bridgeport, Connetcuit
    
54. Progressive 1910's Espionage Act circumventing the Treason Clause of the United States Constitution (Article III, Section 3)
    
55. Severe lack of armed guards in schools
    
56. Detonating a nuke under Eric Cantor's district (Virgina Earthquake shown to be shallow nuclear detonation in ALL early seismographs)
    
57. Chemtrails -- yippee!
    
58. Benghazi
    
59. IRS targeting Tea Party
    
60. TSA molestation
    
61. DHS doing target practice on portraits of pregnant women and old men.
    
62. Spying on AP.
    
63. Demonization of whistleblowers
    
64. our education standards compared to other nations
    
65. Oakland, California
    
66. Flint, Michigan
    
67. Boston Bombing
    
68. FBI shooting Ibragim Todashev in the head 7 times while he was tied up
    
69. Libya
    
70. Muslim brotherhood
    
71. Egypt
    
72. 1 in 97 Americans behind bars.
    
73. Greece
    
74. Cyprus
    
75. Governor Andrew Comatose
    
76. 33,000,000,000,000 "borrowed" for Social Security
    
77. DHS armored vehicles
    
78. Passing a Bill so we can "find out what's inside it"
    
79. Rising Healthcare Premiums
    
80. Employers cutting back to 29 hours of work per employee
    
81. Buffalo and Rochester, New York
    
82. Repealing Glass-Steagal (caused housing bubble)
    
83. Repealing the Smith-Mundt Act (ban on US propaganda)
    
84. Iraq pre-2003 vs Iraq-2013
    
85. Patriot Act
    
86. The 17th Amendment
    
87. Suspension of Fifth Amendment Protection to not testify against oneself.
    
88. Rampant seizure of private property for local, state and federal use, with little compensation.
    
89. Revocation of double Jeopardy protections (dual sovereignty tyranny)
    
90. Suspending and intimidating young boys for engaging in any behavior that involves a "fake" or "imagined" gun in school.
    
91. Kidnapping people from their cars to force administer DWI tests
    
92. Random Checkpoints
    
93. Syria
    
94. Border Un-Control
    
95. Excessive Taxation local, state and federal
    
96. Uniform Commercial Code (or any respective variant due to location/jurisdiction)
    
97. Government sponsored Reverse Racism
    
98. Lack of voting fraud detection
    
99. Capping the House of Representatives at 435 (only 1 Rep per 700,000 people)
    
    
    
    

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Holy cats!

A leftist wingnut arguing in favor of the police state and potential/probable violations of civil liberties!

I'm speechless.

Both Paul and Bachmann are radical right wingers, as in tee potties.

 

[Warrior102]

Class Action Suit?
Hell - Obama should be on trial for war crimes, for starters.

 

[Howey]

Bachmann said it and Rand Paul has sent out fundraiser letters saying he wants a class action suit against President Obama.

And, of course, they fantasize about impeachment too.

Now, I know the usual kneejerkers will say stupid things but how about, just for once, we actually go for FACTS.

What grounds are there to do either?

.

There's certainly more than enough evidence to have both Bachmann and Paul locked up in a mental institution for a loooooooooong time

 

[Warrior102]

There's certainly more than enough evidence to have both Bachmann and Paul locked up in a mental institution for a loooooooooong time

Well, why not drum up the charges and begin the proceedings, Einstein

 

[Immanuel]

Support the lawyers! Join the class... you might get your $3.75 worth, but the lawyers will make a fortune.

 

[The T]

Idiot is suing the NSA too.

Paul to file NSA suit within days | TheHill

No wonder he doesn't have time to actually do his job.

Ever heard of Co-Equal Branches? ONE checks the other as deigned by the Founders? He IS doing his job asswipe.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Idiot is suing the NSA too.

Paul to file NSA suit within days | TheHill

No wonder he doesn't have time to actually do his job.

Ever heard of Co-Equal Branches? ONE checks the other as deigned by the Founders? He IS doing his job asswipe.

Co-Equal Branches? Obama has a "pen and a phone [sword]", and he will "assert a uni-lateral agenda without Congress," --- From the Mouth of Obabble Himself, His Grace, the Heir to the Throne of the Oval Office.

 

[g5000]

I think this is at least the fourth topic since the beginning of January about Rand Paul's never-gonna-happen class action suit.

This is pure demagoguery on Rand's part. He waited until the matter is already headed to the Supreme Court. His "class action suit" would be entirely superfluous and would decide no new question that isn't already headed to the Supreme Court.

But... it's a great fundraising vehicle!

The solicitation, which asks for individuals’ names, email addresses and zip codes, also asks for a donation to help “stop Big Brother from infringing on our Fourth Amendment freedoms.”

Rand is leading from behind.

In case you haven't heard, Larry Klayman is already out in front on this issue, as well as the ACLU. They have done all the heavy lifting. You know...actually filing suits and battling in court, not just bloviating about maybe one day soon doing so.

Rand is drafting. Coasting on others' hard work for personal gain.

So go ahead and send him your money for this bogus "class action suit". You deserve to have him take it.

But if you really do give a serious fuck about this, send your money to Klayman or the ACLU. They are the ones spending real money on it, and will have to spend more in the months to come.

Here is what Rand Paul is going to do. He is going to take money from you rubes, then he will file a bogus suit (if he even bothers to actually do so) which will be immediately dismissed, then he will rant about the government trying to suppress the truth, then he will cry all the way to the bank with the big pile of money you sent him.

Send your money to Klayman and the ACLU. Rand Paul is a poser. A fake.

 

[Mustang]

My understanding of the way the process works is that Paul would have to petition for permission to file suit, assuming he had both grounds and standing.

Then he could go forward.

But since he's in the legislative branch, why not just introduce legislation and get co-sponsors in both across the aisle and in the House. Push for a vote and build public support for your positions.

This just looks like some kind of media campaign to draw attention to himself and get on TV to get some free exposure. Then, as others have said, it's a fundraising tool, as well. I bet it also serves to increase his mailing list for any future decision to run for the Republican nomination.

 

[deltex1]

Bachmann said it and Rand Paul has sent out fundraiser letters saying he wants a class action suit against President Obama.

And, of course, they fantasize about impeachment too.

Now, I know the usual kneejerkers will say stupid things but how about, just for once, we actually go for FACTS.

What grounds are there to do either?

T Party Pees just emailed me and said the word is "against". She is a pain in the ass..

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Idiot is suing the NSA too.

Paul to file NSA suit within days | TheHill

No wonder he doesn't have time to actually do his job.

Damn, a congresscritter that is actually worried about privacy, just like Obama said he was before you voted him into control of the presidency.