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Sure ask away...and this group....I don't know if it's "major" is free to have the views and opinions they want. Evangelical Christians, aren't all Christians...and aren't even close to the majority of Christians.i don’t think it’s a requirement either nor does what you quote say it’s a requirement
If a major political organization of Evangelical Christians are operating under a loosely stated identity of Christian Nationalists and have one of their views regarding a historical fact that America was founded as a Christian Nation, don’t yuh think its fair for those outside that group to ask what being a Christian actually means.
Evangelical Christians are pretty much open that their definition fits what RLand said.
“A Christian is someone who has a personal relationship with Jesus and has entered into a redeemed state”
Si If a nation does not require it citizens to a have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and has entered into a redeemed state then why should we refer to that nation as Christian Nation?
I frankly, have no idea where you got the idea that I ever said we were founded as a Christian Nation.
What in the world is Christian Nationalism?
I asked what Christian m waa,...I didn't say were were a Christian Nation. In the defination you provided, nowhere does it say that Christian Nationalism, believes we are a Christian Nation or wants us to be.I frankly, have no idea where you got the idea that I ever said we were founded as a Christian Nation.
You asked?
What in the world is Christian Nationalism?
So as I began to explain to you what Christian Nationalism is you instinctively as a Christian began to defend in your replies the notion that America was founded as a Christian Nation
If you don’t believe that America was founded as a Christian Nation, I have no idea why you brought up the founders were greatly influenced by Judeo Christian values, That’s because that fact of life back then does not justify the politically charged historical revisionism by the white evangelical Christian Nationalists in Trump’s base, to say that America was founded as a Christian nation.
Organized religion which includes Communism has no place in the government------Feed em to the lions!
Do we even have that many lions available?
Church and state are separated for good reasons.
Too much blurring of those lines in the last four decades.
No one is attacking your right to practice your religion.
We just don't want it shoved down our throats...that's all.
Too funny, yes they are, you're just too lazy to read the article AND the document.
I did read it. Here's the only paragraph that's relevant.
Organized religion, in ANY form, has NO place in government at the federal and state level.
If you really believe in the Constitution, this wouldn't be an issue for you.
"A Democratic group dedicated to representing secular values unveiled a slate of recommendations for President-elect Joe Biden’s incoming administration on Monday (Nov. 30), outlining a sweeping agenda designed to roll back many of President Trump’s actions involving religion and to “restore a vision of constitutional secularism.”
In the defination you provided, nowhere does it say that Christian Nationalism, believes we are a Christian Nation or wants us to be.
have stated, repeatedly that were were founded on Judeo-Christian values. That is not hte same as being a Christian Nation.
1) I didn't see that in the quote you have provided. Which is the quote I said I see nothing wrong with.In the defination you provided, nowhere does it say that Christian Nationalism, believes we are a Christian Nation or wants us to be.
Christian nationalists have as theit basis of their entire belief system that America was founded as a Christian nation and it needs to be returned do it original Christian roots
some things go without saying but hopefully my explanation here satisfies you.
The Christian nationalist woman that I quoted was telling us that the founders believed there was a covenant with God of the Judeo Christian Bible and that was their vision for America. That’s the complete oppositeOf religious freedom. That’s why I say white evangelical Christian nationalists are lying about the Christian founding of America.
Yet you seem be accustomed shoveling your lack of morality and crap down the throats of those that choose to believe in God. You had the choice and now enjoy the path you have chosen. Most importantly do not assume you have the right to dictate the beliefs of others. Lenin and Stalin promoted the same agenda and stance, how did that turn out?Feed em to the lions!
Do we even have that many lions available?
Church and state are separated for good reasons.
Too much blurring of those lines in the last four decades.
No one is attacking your right to practice your religion.
We just don't want it shoved down our throats...that's all.
I am a Christian as defined by the defination...I believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity.
We are a Nation, that was founded on the idea that any religion is welcome here. We did get that, tolerance, from our founders influence from Judeo-Christian values
"Rise of Christian nationalism"? Democrats are sounding more like nazis every day.
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WASHINGTON (RNS) — A Democratic group dedicated to representing secular values unveiled a slate of recommendations for President-elect Joe Biden’s incoming administration on Monday (Nov. 30), outlining a sweeping agenda designed to roll back many of President Trump’s actions involving religion and to “restore a vision of constitutional secularism.”
The 28-page document, crafted by the Secular Democrats of America PAC, is being presented to the incoming administration by Democratic Representatives Jamie Raskin and Jared Huffman — both co-chairs of the Congressional Freethought Caucus.
The SDA’s agenda offers a wide range of policy recommendations to push back against the so-called “Christian nationalist movement,” which the the group describes as an “extraordinarily well-funded and well-organized” phenomenon whose “extreme and sectarian agenda (was) on constant display under the Trump-Pence administration.”
Citing rise of 'Christian nationalism,' Secular Democrats unveil sweeping recommendations for Biden
WASHINGTON (RNS) — Authors suggested Biden use ‘E Pluribus Unum’ — Latin for ‘out of many, one’ — instead of ‘In God We Trust’ and repeal the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.religionnews.com
Work with Congress to incentivize states to increase their vaccination rates by repealing all nonmedical exemptions to mandatory vaccination for children in schools and day care centers. States like California and New York have taken such actions, but only after experiencing severe outbreaks of measles and whooping cough. Parents and children have the right to a school environment free of vaccine preventable diseases. The most vulnerable among us who are medically ineligible for vaccination depend on herd immunity to protect them.
Move along, nothing see here....well except for a direct attack on Religious Liberties that is.
Ok...not sure what that means.I am a Christian as defined by the defination...I believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity.
I call that sin and salvation Christianity..
The first four founding fathers that became president rejected original sin, salvation through the blood of Christ, and the holy Trinity. Jefferson there is no question. Madison was a strong believer in the freedom of conscience to worship as one pleased. Adams was a Unitarian, scoffed at the idea of original sin basically said that all religions and even atheist get credit for winning the revolution and creating America.
Is it not fair of me to be aggravated when evangelical Christians who believe the same Christian Sin and salvation beliefs as you. are running around Declaring that America was founded as a Christian nation?
Nah, we got our tolarance from Judeo-Christian values, Locke for example.We are a Nation, that was founded on the idea that any religion is welcome here. We did get that, tolerance, from our founders influence from Judeo-Christian values
That is not actually more than mildly true.
We got our tolerance from our founders not because of their Judeo Christian values. They were highly rational thinkers. They saw what religious intolerance did in Europe for 1700 years. They visualized what would happen if the new nation they were forming had a government that favored one religion over any other choice of conscious.
it’s precisely because of the lack of tolerance between all the sects of Protestantism and protestant contempt for Catholicism in the colonies that the founders made sure the constitution deliberately showed no mention of Judeo Christian values. The federal government was to have none of it.
I am a Christian as defined by the defination...I believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity.....
So, why do you hate The United States?
I don’t hate the United States at all. I hate the lies about its founding. Why do you support white Christian nationalists who lie about Anerica’s founding?
Who? Trump? I have no idea...I don't go around asking people in my church their political views. Although, some are very vocal with their radical leftist views, the majority don't share their political views.I am a Christian as defined by the defination...I believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity.....
If you belong to a Christian denomination, do the majority of your congregation support or cant stand him?
Do you believe Trump was chosen by God like almost half of Evangelical Christians do?
A recent survey found that 49 percent of white evangelical Protestants believe Trump was chosen by God.
Do you have an opinion on this?
According to a report from the National Catholic Register, the exodus of Catholic church members seeking a new spiritual home accelerated during Donald Trump's four years as some Catholic leaders embraced the controversial president to the dismay of parishioners.
Tolerance of others, and their faiths, is a Judeo-Christian value.
The United States was founded by Christians.
