Cincinnati was screwed over

When he pushed (not hit) Mahomes, Mahomes foot was just leaving the OB line. It was nowhere near an illegal hit. In fact, when he is still in bounds you can see #58 was a mere foot or two away from him at the most. In the NFL, it is pretty hard to hold up on every play when you are doing all you can to get at your opponent as fast as you can. These out of bounds hits need to be better looked at --- as well as roughing the passer calls -- and when in doubt, let the play go.

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Ossai had both feet OB when he shoved Mahomes.
 
There were some unfortunate calls against Cincinnati but that bonehead unsportsmanlike penalty by Ossai cost them the game.
Yeah Mahomes is the new darling quarterback of the nfl now with Brady gone so same as they always did fir brady,they Are going to fix playoffs and superbowls for him to win and in time after he starts winning mote superbowls will then 15 years from now then start calling HIM the greatest quarterback ever.just watch.they called Montana the greatest ever which I thought back then,was rediculous,that would be Johnny Unitas,neither Montana nor brady could carry Johnny Unitas jockstrap,he played in an era where quarterbacks were not only thrown around like ragdolls,Montana did as well but differerence is he had a helmet where Unitas only had pigskin on his head for a helmet,so enough of this bullshitnthst brady is the best ever crap,he is not.
 
And you want to ignore 99.9% of the actual game and focus on the .1%. At what point in the game do the officials just stop throwing flags for violations and "just let the players play the game"? Officials never see every aspect of every play. They "miss" calls all throughout the game. Why arent you butt hurt over Chris Jones getting held on basically every play after the first quarter? If those calls are made the score isnt tied and Mahomes is just kneeling on the ball to run the clock out.
You always grasp at straws to avoid defeat.grow up,people are tired of your babble and denials and yiur evasion of facts,have fun talking to yourself trollboy,I’m done with you.
 
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My view is that bad calls happen. Refs have to watch at full speed with action happening everywhere, and even with eyes in the sky they won't be able to catch everything, all the time. Football teams have to accept that there is a more or less random element to the game as there is in all of life.

And every team benefits from it, and every team loses from it. After all, the Bengals might not have even made it that far if the refs hadn't sat on their flag for the block in the back during Hubbard's game-saving fumble return against the Patriots, and the Chiefs had already had an interception and a touchdown called back during last night's game due to very iffy calls. It happens.

The NFL isn't rigged, but it does clearly have a problem with officiating these days. Who knows what the ref was thinking when he ran out onto the field to fix the time, without blowing his whistle, for starters. I've also never seen a coach allowed to reverse his decision on accepting or declining a penalty after it had been announced and the teams were lined up. I don't get it.

The NFL needs to address those issues and make serious moves to fix them, if for no other reason than the fact that sports betting is going to get nothing but bigger, meaning there will be even more people with an obscene amount of money riding on the refs' calls. The first step should be to making the refs full time, which to me is a no-brainer. Their integrity needs to be at least as heavily and publicly established as a judge's, and their calls need to be reviewed and standardized against a pre-defined set of standards, or else trust in their game is going to erode, probably more quickly than they may expect.
Keep on living in that fantasyland that the nfl is not rigged.yeah all those superbowls the cheatriots won,it’s all just a coincidence they ALWAYS got all the calls and never bad calls against them but the other teams always got bad calls against them at the most critical times that cost them the game all a coincidence,yeah right,grow up. :cuckoo: and the refs were nit biased towards them even in the patriots jaguars game when a ref was seen celebrating with the patriots patting brady on the back,that’s no biased referring alright.no sir.it’s all just a coincidence how bad calls in critical times thst cost a team the playoffs just only happened once in a great blue moon back in the seventys and eightys but is commonplace now,yep,no rigging of games,whatever. :cuckoo: Keep yelling yourself that coincidencebtheorist,maybe somedayyou will believe it.
 
I understand and that makes sense to me. But let me ask this. If Mahomes does not fall from the moderate push (not hit) does that play get called 15 yard penalty? I say the answer is "no" because I have witnessed countless situations where the defender's momentum carried him into the runner and he makes contact and even causes a push. And in almost all of those cases, if that is all that took place, there is no flag. ----------- I also believe when a QB takes off running he should no longer be treated as a QB but just a runner and can get hit as hard as anyone else. The exception, of course, being if he attempts to slide.

It was about as much a "criminal assault" as could be had at a crucial time; not many secs. left in the game! I thanked Ossai seeing as Mahomes was way out of bounds when hammered! It made the FG all that much more "make-able!" As w/ any great team, they need the help of their opposition sometimes! Cinci truly worries KC and they had a chance to win again in OT, but that last flagrant foul on Mahomes extends his legend helped by the Op's Defense! - Nothing's keeping QB's from being nailed, but it has to be within the lines, not 5 yards outside with both feet out of bounds! You're deluding yourself if you don't see the truth! The real push running Patrick near the wall was a last second shove by Ossai's right hand when both guys out of bounds! :heehee: :omg::rolleyes::dev3:
 
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Yeah Mahomes is the new darling quarterback of the nfl now with Brady gone so same as they always did fir brady,they Are going to fix playoffs and superbowls for him to win and in time after he starts winning mote superbowls will then 15 years from now then start calling HIM the greatest quarterback ever.just watch.they called Montana the greatest ever which I thought back then,was rediculous,that would be Johnny Unitas,neither Montana nor brady could carry Johnny Unitas jockstrap,he played in an era where quarterbacks were not only thrown around like ragdolls,Montana did as well but differerence is he had a helmet where Unitas only had pigskin on his head for a helmet,so enough of this bullshitnthst brady is the best ever crap,he is not.
Commenting further on this there is a Eagles sports writer who gave three reasons why he thinks the chiefs will win,I mentioned that espn sports will eventually start calling Mahomes the best quarterback of all time with Brady gone now,guess what it’s already started,he said that even if his defense game plans well against Mahomes it won’t be enough sense he is going to be going to be in his way to going down as the greatest quarterback of all time. :laughing0301: He also said that Mahomes and Reid are the best coach quarterback combo of all time,soon as brady retires,they are already touting this,so much fornthe brady belicheck best combo of all time,thst sure did not last long once brady hung it up.:laughing0301::auiqs.jpg:
 
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Are people who go on those gambling sites losing their life savings?

We saw after pot was made legal that none of the things they said would happen, happened.

Are you saying there are documented cases of people who have lost all their money since betting was made legal?

We all have to learn our lessons. My nephew thought he could make money in college betting on sports. He won a few weeks but then suddenly he started losing. So he stopped.

I hosted a poker game at my house for over 10 years. Then I started going to the casino's to play. There I found guys who don't care about money as much as I do and they don't fall for my bluffs. So I stopped. My friends ask why I don't host another game. Couple reasons. I never win enough money that I'm happy about it the next day. Or I lose and I'm pissed. And my place is trashed the next day.

Anyways, I would be interested in reading about cases of people who have lost it all since online gambling became legal. Warning. I won't feel sorry for those people and it won't change my mind. I should still be allowed to legally gamble even if you have a gambling problem. Right?
I don't know. I've never dedicated enough of my life or energy into researching it. I do know that it is becoming much more popular, and a massive-and-growing revenue source, and more and more states can be expected to legalize it in the coming years.

If I have an overarching concern it's with whether it will change the way the NFL presents and even plays the game we all love. I have noticed that the amount of time the talking heads spend discussing fantasy stats and gambling odds has grown over the years. I don't mind that, but I would hope it doesn't lead to gameplay or rule changes, or something like that, down the road.
 
I don't know. I've never dedicated enough of my life or energy into researching it. I do know that it is becoming much more popular, and a massive-and-growing revenue source, and more and more states can be expected to legalize it in the coming years.

If I have an overarching concern it's with whether it will change the way the NFL presents and even plays the game we all love. I have noticed that the amount of time the talking heads spend discussing fantasy stats and gambling odds has grown over the years. I don't mind that, but I would hope it doesn't lead to gameplay or rule changes, or something like that, down the road.
I hate it when they bring up draft king or whatever the name of the site is. I hate those Jamie foxx commercials. Agree
 
A stupid, bonehead play cost the Bengals a win. Players need to control their emotions.
Like I said Cincinnati had the ball 2nd and 2 with like 6 minutes left. They would have eaten up the clock down to 3 minutes or less and kicked the winning field goal.

Instead burrow threw two passes. One incomplete the other intercepted
 
Cincinnati has the ball 2nd and 2. Nothing the refs could do except call a bullshit penalty on them if they ran it like you’re supposed to. You have 3 downs to pick up a first down and eat up clock. Cincinnati fans seem to want to blow this series of downs off and cry about what happened after that interception. Sorry but like Deniro says You blew it!
 
Cincinnati has the ball 2nd and 2. Nothing the refs could do except call a bullshit penalty on them if they ran it like you’re supposed to. You have 3 downs to pick up a first down and eat up clock. Cincinnati fans seem to want to blow this series of downs off and cry about what happened after that interception. Sorry but like Deniro says You blew it!

Cinci. is like my beloved Buffalo Bills of the 90's; "striving for 5!" :heehee: They're cursed to maybe never win; no matter the talent! Seems like '84 & '89 was just yesterday, but lost both to Montana! ;):rolleyes::D:dev3:
 
Cinci. is like my beloved Buffalo Bills of the 90's; "striving for 5!" :heehee: They're cursed to maybe never win; no matter the talent! Seems like '84 & '89 was just yesterday, but lost both to Montana! ;):rolleyes::D:dev3:
Joe Burrow may change all that. But I know what you mean. Cinci comes close then the next year they suck. Remember chad ochosinko? That was a good cinci team.

The Vikings are the same way. They come close but then regress.
 
Joe Burrow may change all that. But I know what you mean. Cinci comes close then the next year they suck. Remember chad ochosinko? That was a good cinci team.

The Vikings are the same way. They come close but then regress.
Cimci sucked this year?
 
Cimci sucked this year?
I said Joe burrow may change all that. I mean before burrow.

How far do you think Cincinnati will get next year?

Here’s the problem with getting as far as they have. If you don’t win a Super Bowl it was all for nothing. Sure it was fun and you came close and that’s better than not making the playoffs but look at dallas. Every year it’s Super Bowl or failure. Green Bay is Super Bowl or failure. Cincinnati was happy to make it as far as they did this year. Next year this year will be a failure if you repeat.

For the lions they just have to make the playoffs. It should be win at least one playoff game too but it won’t be.

Will joe burrow ever win a championship? If I had to bet I’d say no. It’s too hard.
 
Cimci sucked this year?
I just realized Cincinnati did go to the Super Bowl last year. I forgot. No one ever remembers the losers unless it’s your team. Lol

So Cincinnati is regressing. Maybe next year the lions knock you out in the first round. Our first playoff win in forever. Lol. Goffs been to a Super Bowl too
 
I just realized Cincinnati did go to the Super Bowl last year. I forgot. No one ever remembers the losers unless it’s your team. Lol

So Cincinnati is regressing. Maybe next year the lions knock you out in the first round. Our first playoff win in forever. Lol. Goffs been to a Super Bowl too

Was KC regressing last year?

Cincinatti isnt my team but it would be a neat trick for the Lions to knock the Bengals out in the first round of the playoffs.
 
The DB chose to shove hands in the back. Why? To punish him for running? Trying to knock him out of OT? DB could have pulled up left of Mahomes.

Dumb move. Mahomes helped sell it by enhancing the dive. Thats his job.

Yes, OT was almost a certainty prior to that. Bengals were 50-50 at that point on the road. They threw away any chance.
 
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Next, CIN & PHI both have to cough up maybe $500M over ten years full guaranteed in QB pay. ~$2.5M per game.
 
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