Barr is part of the corruption. The DoJ is broken. The State Department is broken.
This administration has a record number of temporary appointees, unconfirmed by a Congress, taken no oath of office, and loyal to Trump personally, not the office of the presidency, the Constitution or the country. Career diplomats suddenly recalled for no reason and replaced by idiots. What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg.
CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call
WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered to be a criminal referral to the Justice Department about
the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.
The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed,
raising more questions about why the Justice Department later declined to open an investigation.
The phone call that Elwood considered to be a criminal referral is in addition to the referral later received as a letter from the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community regarding the whistleblower complaint.
Justice Department officials said they were unclear whether Elwood was making a criminal referral and followed up with her later to seek clarification but she remained vague.
In the days since the anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing,
Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president.
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The Justice Department declined to open an investigation because it has become the partisan arm of the GOP and protector of Trump.
Enforcing the law is subordinate to that.
Yea Obama DOJ NEVER did anything questionable AT ALL. ******* hypocrites.
No elected official is perfect, some are better, some are worse and that applies equally to the left and the right. That said there are scumwaffle individuals. I try hard to see both sides but sometimes I think a spade is a spade and falae moral equivalencies are not going to change ut.
The way everything looks, fron the limited array of facts (not conjecture, not conspircy theory) that are available to us is that Trump might have comnitted and act of corruption, using his offoce to withold aid, and promise an oval office meeting in exchange for a favor: investigate specifically, a political rival, based on unsubstantiated allegations, and make a public notice to that effect.
There is no way to take those facts and spin it into something acceptable. It realy isnt. It really really isnt. And once we start defending this sort of abuse of power, WHERE IS THE BOTTOM?
No, Obama did not do anything approaching this. Neither did Bush. That is left and right.
We need ti stop the false comparisons.
We need to call a crime a crime regardless of who does it.
You destroy evidence requested, you pay. Those things when justified are fuel to a fire.
Saying Trump should be impeached for a slice of a conversation yet defending Hillary will keep the divide alive n well and trying to call them false equivalencies won't cut it.
Our hate for 5he other side blinds us to our own actions n we dig this hole deeper.
Hillary was investigated to the nth degree. Do you support the results of it? If you don’t, how can you support the results of the investigation that found insufficient evidence to support a crime of criminal conspiracy by Trump? Neither investigation found enough to support a criminal charge. Folks seem to want to pick and choose guilt and innocence here,
Secondly, I am not calling for impeachment, but I support an impeachment investigation particularly since it may be the only way to cut through the Administration’s obstruction and get at the facts. It is not based on just a slice of conversation, in fact, the primary reasons are laid out in the whistle blowers complaint which was taken seriously by both the IG and DNI.
Do you support an investigation into this? If not, why, when you supported investigations into Hillary?
sorry for the late reply. i was in iceland last week and yesterday was photo editing day. if you can ever make it - it's an AMAZING TRIP!
as for hillary, i'm sick of investigations. all around. if she got away with something - as i do feel she has - then she got away with it. however, they did get most of those e-mails back. but along the way you're saying her e-mail server was fine, her IT man going to 4chan looking for how to totally destroy a hard drive, fine. i'm not asking you if she got through the investigations, i'm asking you if you feel it's ok to do these things AT ALL. if you think this is fine, then if/when trump starts deleting requested information, i can only hope to see the same open level of due process afforded to him in the same manner. the same defense of those actions UNTIL he is found guilty by our legal processes.
now - did she do anything wrong? comey said she did but they were not going to prosecute because she didn't know any better and didn't MEAN to do anything wrong.
if she didn't MEAN to do anything wrong then it must mean by definition, she did something wrong. otherwise her intent is irrelevant.
now, it was also found she DID send "C"lassified info. pray tell how does ANYONE get to be secretary of state and NOT know what the C means on these documents? how can the phrase "clean the paper"
can you name anyone else sending classified info like that who did not face prosecution? i can't find any. i can find many who DID - so why does she get a 2nd set of rules? i won't speculate here, so just let me know your thoughts on this. not "well the investigation didn't find anything" because obviously they did but they chose to not go after her.
why?
what i am getting at is the standards we set here can and will be used by others along the way. to get mad another does this while defending one for doing at a minimum the same, is odd to me and nowhere near objectivity.
look, if trump is guilty, get his ass out of office. get ANY guilty party the hell out of office and let's get our country back to the people, not the politicians. i have no allegiance to any side, just this country. if/when i see trump deleting requested conversations, i'll jump his ass for it too.
but given the track record of the left making up issues to go after people, russia, (and the more that comes out the more we know it was bullshit, but that's another convo i suppose), kavanaugh, and now going straight to IMPEACH - that makes me think they do in fact still have demons to hide. we'll see how it plays out i'm sure, but you can't sit there and say hillary was cleared of crimes. she was in fact found to have committed them.
they just chose to not go after her.
a bit different than your stance up there, don't you think?
as for the whistleblowers credibility, well we're still seeing how paperwork and process were changed shortly before the accusations and even schiff was talking crap a month before the whistleblower spouted off. so schiff knew. they had a month to plan and in this time, processes were changed.
do you disagree with that? if not there's simply no sense in going further.
