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HaShev

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Besides stealing other cultures wealth and art, and besides parading duplicate fake Jesus cabins charging money to see the many duplicates being paraded at the same time.
In 1517 the Church began selling indulgences to the German people. These Catholics were told that in exchange for their assistance in building Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral, they would receive full pardon for all sins, past, present and future. Furthermore, all their loved ones who reside in purgatory would gain immediate access to Heaven.
HMMM, buying your way to salvation, not bad.
Tis why,
Pope Leo X said;
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
 
Church has often been a tool by people to get what they want. Nothing much has changed.
 
Besides stealing other cultures wealth and art, and besides parading duplicate fake Jesus cabins charging money to see the many duplicates being paraded at the same time.
In 1517 the Church began selling indulgences to the German people. These Catholics were told that in exchange for their assistance in building Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral, they would receive full pardon for all sins, past, present and future. Furthermore, all their loved ones who reside in purgatory would gain immediate access to Heaven.
HMMM, buying your way to salvation, not bad.
Tis why,
Pope Leo X said;
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

Church has often been a tool by people to get what they want. Nothing much has changed.

Are you sure the Church really did those or is it once again another quote from the Black Legend taken out of context?
 
Yeah they actually claimed they had the home of Jesus and would have a tour with it, however many of these cabins were paraded around the same time.
 
Besides stealing other cultures wealth and art, and besides parading duplicate fake Jesus cabins charging money to see the many duplicates being paraded at the same time.

Not only have I never heard a hint of this, I cannot find any source that has. Do you have a link or a source? Are you sure it wasn't a house that Mary was said to live in?

In 1517 the Church began selling indulgences to the German people. These Catholics were told that in exchange for their assistance in building Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral, they would receive full pardon for all sins, past, present and future. Furthermore, all their loved ones who reside in purgatory would gain immediate access to Heaven.
HMMM, buying your way to salvation, not bad.

If you wish to present this snippet, shouldn't you also introduce the theology behind Indulgences, and what other Catholics said and did when they were misused? Be sure and include the part where indulgences were not to be sold to the Germans, and the uproar that occurred when people attempted to do this.

You will also learn that Indulgences have little or nothing to do with heaven or purgatory, they are a penance and are related to the temporal consequences of sin. Yes, if turning to charity and just practices occurs in this life, a man may become just and holy, and thereby need not undergo as much purification in the next life, thereby resulting in a more immediate entrance into heaven.


Tis why, Pope Leo X said;"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

Wrong again. Pope Leo X never said this.

John Bale, an English playwright, wrote a satire of the Catholic Church in the mid sixteenth century. It was called "The Pageant of Popes." A line he wrote for this satire was the actor portraying Pope Leo X saying, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
 
Yeah they actually claimed they had the home of Jesus and would have a tour with it, however many of these cabins were paraded around the same time.
What hasn't the Whore of Babylon done, HaShev? They are not ambassadors for Jesus Christ! They are His enemy. The truth is Satan has worked very hard to produce a counterfeit and therein we know he is terrified of the Genuine. The truth is Jesus Christ of the Bible defeated Satan at the cross over 2,000 years ago. The Roman Church is a false Church.
 
Yeah they actually claimed they had the home of Jesus and would have a tour with it, however many of these cabins were paraded around the same time.
What hasn't the Whore of Babylon done, HaShev? They are not ambassadors for Jesus Christ! They are His enemy. The truth is Satan has worked very hard to produce a counterfeit and therein we know he is terrified of the Genuine. The truth is Jesus Christ of the Bible defeated Satan at the cross over 2,000 years ago. The Roman Church is a false Church.
Writes Jeremiah, a false prophet foretold of the latter days.
 
Besides stealing other cultures wealth and art, and besides parading duplicate fake Jesus cabins charging money to see the many duplicates being paraded at the same time.

Not only have I never heard a hint of this, I cannot find any source that has. Do you have a link or a source? Are you sure it wasn't a house that Mary was said to live in?

In 1517 the Church began selling indulgences to the German people. These Catholics were told that in exchange for their assistance in building Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral, they would receive full pardon for all sins, past, present and future. Furthermore, all their loved ones who reside in purgatory would gain immediate access to Heaven.
HMMM, buying your way to salvation, not bad.

If you wish to present this snippet, shouldn't you also introduce the theology behind Indulgences, and what other Catholics said and did when they were misused? Be sure and include the part where indulgences were not to be sold to the Germans, and the uproar that occurred when people attempted to do this.

You will also learn that Indulgences have little or nothing to do with heaven or purgatory, they are a penance and are related to the temporal consequences of sin. Yes, if turning to charity and just practices occurs in this life, a man may become just and holy, and thereby need not undergo as much purification in the next life, thereby resulting in a more immediate entrance into heaven.


Tis why, Pope Leo X said;"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

Wrong again. Pope Leo X never said this.

John Bale, an English playwright, wrote a satire of the Catholic Church in the mid sixteenth century. It was called "The Pageant of Popes." A line he wrote for this satire was the actor portraying Pope Leo X saying, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

You are so busted, because you claim to recognize plays yet fail to this standard when shown that the Jesus myth is plagiarized from the Baal passion play.
Repost:

Baal passion play
"Christianity Before Christ" by John G. Jackson, 1985,
pp. 43-46.
(A) Arthur Findlay's report of the translation by a
Professor H. Zimmern, in German, of an ancient tablet
which Jackson reports (citing Findlay) as Babylonian
dating back to circa 2000 BC now in the British
Museum in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.
"10/12/01: Update: The report by Jackson and the chart
shown above has flaws which are addressed in the
following report. The tablet referenced by Jackson,
Findlay, and Goodman, does in fact exist, but according
to Christopher Walker of The British Museum it is
Assyrian, not Babylonian, was discovered in the town of
Nineveh in Assyria, and dates from 700 B.C., not 2000
B.C., as reported by John Jackson citing Arthur
Findlay.
The following report is based upon a photocopy
provided to me by Christopher Walker of The British
Museum of a translation of the Bel Myth Tablet by S.
Langdon, published in 1923.
The Bel myth parallels to the Jesus myth are
nevertheless present in the Langdon translation, clearly
indicating that regardless of the discovery of the tablet
in Nineveh in Assyria, not in Babylonia, and its dating
as 700 B.C. and not 2000 B.C. The Bel myth does in
fact have mythical elements including death and
resurrection which parallel the Jesus myth and thus are
forerunners of mythical elements in the Jesus myth.
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and
dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum,
and referred to by British Museum officials as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet (thanks to British Museum
official Christopher Walker for this information and
photocopies of translations by S. Langdon and S. A.
Pallis of the Marduk's Ordeal tablet), and by me as The
Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet, we get a version of the
Assyrian Babylonian Bel (Bel-Marduk or Marduk-Bel)
myth in which the god Bel is arrested, tried, judged,
scourged, executed, and resurrected and thus are
similar to the mythical elements of the last days of the
life of Jesus found in the Jesus myth.
Critics should remember that the mythical elements of
the Bel-Marduk myth are literally carved in stone on
Marduk's Ordeal tablet/Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet which
stands as an original source of mythical elements of the
Bel-Marduk myth."
http://www.bobkwebsite.com/belmythvjesusmyth.html

Checkmate! You lost your king, sorry.
 
You are so busted, because you claim to recognize plays yet fail to this standard when shown that the Jesus myth is plagiarized from the Baal passion play.
Repost:

Baal passion play
"Christianity Before Christ" by John G. Jackson, 1985,
pp. 43-46.
(A) Arthur Findlay's report of the translation by a
Professor H. Zimmern, in German, of an ancient tablet
which Jackson reports (citing Findlay) as Babylonian
dating back to circa 2000 BC now in the British
Museum in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.
"10/12/01: Update: The report by Jackson and the chart
shown above has flaws which are addressed in the
following report. The tablet referenced by Jackson,
Findlay, and Goodman, does in fact exist, but according
to Christopher Walker of The British Museum it is
Assyrian, not Babylonian, was discovered in the town of
Nineveh in Assyria, and dates from 700 B.C., not 2000
B.C., as reported by John Jackson citing Arthur
Findlay.
The following report is based upon a photocopy
provided to me by Christopher Walker of The British
Museum of a translation of the Bel Myth Tablet by S.
Langdon, published in 1923.
The Bel myth parallels to the Jesus myth are
nevertheless present in the Langdon translation, clearly
indicating that regardless of the discovery of the tablet
in Nineveh in Assyria, not in Babylonia, and its dating
as 700 B.C. and not 2000 B.C. The Bel myth does in
fact have mythical elements including death and
resurrection which parallel the Jesus myth and thus are
forerunners of mythical elements in the Jesus myth.
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and
dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum,
and referred to by British Museum officials as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet (thanks to British Museum
official Christopher Walker for this information and
photocopies of translations by S. Langdon and S. A.
Pallis of the Marduk's Ordeal tablet), and by me as The
Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet, we get a version of the
Assyrian Babylonian Bel (Bel-Marduk or Marduk-Bel)
myth in which the god Bel is arrested, tried, judged,
scourged, executed, and resurrected and thus are
similar to the mythical elements of the last days of the
life of Jesus found in the Jesus myth.
Critics should remember that the mythical elements of
the Bel-Marduk myth are literally carved in stone on
Marduk's Ordeal tablet/Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet which
stands as an original source of mythical elements of the
Bel-Marduk myth."
http://www.bobkwebsite.com/belmythvjesusmyth.html

Checkmate! You lost your king, sorry.

I'm not sure you care, but you make no sense, your logic is not there, and you scholarship isn't either. I truly think you would do much better teaching your own faith than talking about a faith where you come across as clueless--no matte
Besides stealing other cultures wealth and art, and besides parading duplicate fake Jesus cabins charging money to see the many duplicates being paraded at the same time.

Not only have I never heard a hint of this, I cannot find any source that has. Do you have a link or a source? Are you sure it wasn't a house that Mary was said to live in?

In 1517 the Church began selling indulgences to the German people. These Catholics were told that in exchange for their assistance in building Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral, they would receive full pardon for all sins, past, present and future. Furthermore, all their loved ones who reside in purgatory would gain immediate access to Heaven.
HMMM, buying your way to salvation, not bad.

If you wish to present this snippet, shouldn't you also introduce the theology behind Indulgences, and what other Catholics said and did when they were misused? Be sure and include the part where indulgences were not to be sold to the Germans, and the uproar that occurred when people attempted to do this.

You will also learn that Indulgences have little or nothing to do with heaven or purgatory, they are a penance and are related to the temporal consequences of sin. Yes, if turning to charity and just practices occurs in this life, a man may become just and holy, and thereby need not undergo as much purification in the next life, thereby resulting in a more immediate entrance into heaven.


Tis why, Pope Leo X said;"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

Wrong again. Pope Leo X never said this.

John Bale, an English playwright, wrote a satire of the Catholic Church in the mid sixteenth century. It was called "The Pageant of Popes." A line he wrote for this satire was the actor portraying Pope Leo X saying, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

You are so busted, because you claim to recognize plays yet fail to this standard when shown that the Jesus myth is plagiarized from the Baal passion play.
Repost:

Baal passion play
"Christianity Before Christ" by John G. Jackson, 1985,
pp. 43-46.
(A) Arthur Findlay's report of the translation by a
Professor H. Zimmern, in German, of an ancient tablet
which Jackson reports (citing Findlay) as Babylonian
dating back to circa 2000 BC now in the British
Museum in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.
"10/12/01: Update: The report by Jackson and the chart
shown above has flaws which are addressed in the
following report. The tablet referenced by Jackson,
Findlay, and Goodman, does in fact exist, but according
to Christopher Walker of The British Museum it is
Assyrian, not Babylonian, was discovered in the town of
Nineveh in Assyria, and dates from 700 B.C., not 2000
B.C., as reported by John Jackson citing Arthur
Findlay.
The following report is based upon a photocopy
provided to me by Christopher Walker of The British
Museum of a translation of the Bel Myth Tablet by S.
Langdon, published in 1923.
The Bel myth parallels to the Jesus myth are
nevertheless present in the Langdon translation, clearly
indicating that regardless of the discovery of the tablet
in Nineveh in Assyria, not in Babylonia, and its dating
as 700 B.C. and not 2000 B.C. The Bel myth does in
fact have mythical elements including death and
resurrection which parallel the Jesus myth and thus are
forerunners of mythical elements in the Jesus myth.
From a stone tablet discovered in Nineveh, Assyria, and
dated 700 B.C., now housed in The British Museum,
and referred to by British Museum officials as the
Marduk's Ordeal tablet (thanks to British Museum
official Christopher Walker for this information and
photocopies of translations by S. Langdon and S. A.
Pallis of the Marduk's Ordeal tablet), and by me as The
Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet, we get a version of the
Assyrian Babylonian Bel (Bel-Marduk or Marduk-Bel)
myth in which the god Bel is arrested, tried, judged,
scourged, executed, and resurrected and thus are
similar to the mythical elements of the last days of the
life of Jesus found in the Jesus myth.
Critics should remember that the mythical elements of
the Bel-Marduk myth are literally carved in stone on
Marduk's Ordeal tablet/Assyrian Bel Myth Tablet which
stands as an original source of mythical elements of the
Bel-Marduk myth."
http://www.bobkwebsite.com/belmythvjesusmyth.html

Checkmate! You lost your king, sorry.
Can you explain what this post has to do with price of tea in China? It's like I commented on the local drought, and you responded by talking about Mother Goose.
 

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