China remains a threat to Taiwan - Trump is trying to prepare but the disloyal democrats are not cooperating

[JoeB131]

The U.S. has viewed Taiwan as geostrategically important given its key location in the first island chain. Over the past four decades, the U.S. government's policy of deliberate ambiguity toward Taiwan has been viewed as critical to stabilizing cross-strait relations by seeking to deter the PRC from using force toward the region.

But again- LEGALLY WE RECOGNIZE IT AS A PROVINCE OF CHINA.

The main thing that keeps China from squashing Taiwan like a bug is that they are making money off trade with and through Taiwan.

But that goes out the window if China feels its sovereignty is being threatened.

 

[OODA_Loop]

But again- LEGALLY WE RECOGNIZE IT AS A PROVINCE OF CHINA.

The main thing that keeps China from squashing Taiwan like a bug is that they are making money off trade with and through Taiwan.

But that goes out the window if China feels its sovereignty is being threatened.

You're feelings are irrelevant - its been law for 40+ years.

 

[Mac-7]

Sounds like a good reason to start manufacturing chips on our own.

But I can't imagine any American Politican saying to the soldier or sailor's mom, "Timmy died for access to computer chips!!!"

"That's nice. He loved his Playstation when he was little!"

Thats a good idea that Trump has already th

So we were going to go to war to impose ourselves on a country that didn't want us.

Thats a classic lib overreaction

Carter couldn't wait to offload the Canal and didnt even try negotiate a deal

 

[Mac-7]

Trump is arguably the dumbest and least educated fool we've ever had in the white house and has surrounded himself with social media celebrities instead of experts. His international policy hurts us everyday he is in office. JD Dunce would be an improvement.

Taiwan relations is a tricky balance beam that requires discipline and nuance. Trump cant spell either word much less display their characteristics.

You are far too warped by TDS to formed coherent opinion

The “nuance” is simple

Either the US and Japan defend Taiwan ir we dont

Its as simple as that

 

[jknowgood]

Why does that make sense?

We don't recognize a country called "Taiwan", why would we protect it?



No, Trump did that when he sold out the Afghan Government at Doha.

Biden just got stuck with the bill.

Now, I don't actually fault Trump for Doha. The Smarter People he had working for him realized the Afghan Government was never going to be supported by the Afghan People no matter how many trillions we poured into the country.

What I do fault him for was blaming Biden for carrying out his policy, like there would have been any different result.

Biden scratched Trump plan and went with his own. 18 straight months of no soldiers getting killed. Then Biden says hold my beer.

 

[JoeB131]

You're feelings are irrelevant - its been law for 40+ years.

It not about my feelings. I'm just asking if it makes sense to go to war, lose tens of thousands of lives, over a point we've already conceded (Taiwan is part of China).

You don't seem to have a good answer.

Biden scratched Trump plan and went with his own. 18 straight months of no soldiers getting killed. Then Biden says hold my beer.

Actually, he did nothing of the sort. The only reason we had no fatalities in the 18 months prior to the final evacuation was that we confined our troops to their bases while the Taliban overran the countryside, and that WAS Trump's plan.

Shit, it wasn't even the Taliban who was responsible for that final fatal attack, that was ISIS-K, just getting a last lick in. Not sure what Trump would have done to prevent that.

 

[JoeB131]

You are far too warped by TDS to formed coherent opinion

The “nuance” is simple

Either the US and Japan defend Taiwan ir we dont

Its as simple as that

Your right, it is very simple.

We don't recognize Taiwan as a country, and neither does Japan. We both recognize Taiwan as a province of China.

Is Taiwan worth going to war over, which would pooch our economy when trade is cut off?

Not really.

 

[OODA_Loop]

It not about my feelings. I'm just asking if it makes sense to go to war, lose tens of thousands of lives, over a point we've already conceded (Taiwan is part of China).

You don't seem to have a good answer.

To protect the Taiwanese and our interests. Sure.

 

[JoeB131]

Thats a good idea that Trump has already th

Failed Miserably? We know.

America’s New Chip Factory –$50 Billion Disaster

This video has everything: Drama, special effects, product placement, and fantasy! :ROFLMAO: Rising from the Texas plains is one of the most ambitious projects in U.S. history — Samsung’s $50 billion semiconductor factory in Taylor, Texas. Originally announced in 2021 as a $17 billion plan...

semiwiki.com

Thats a classic lib overreaction

Carter couldn't wait to offload the Canal and didnt even try negotiate a deal

Actually the treaty was a pretty good one.

It retained US control until 1999, allowed us to maintain military bases, and gave our military ships priority transit through the canal.

Torrijos–Carter Treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[martybegan]

Your right, it is very simple.

We don't recognize Taiwan as a country, and neither does Japan. We both recognize Taiwan as a province of China.

Is Taiwan worth going to war over, which would pooch our economy when trade is cut off?

Not really.

That is only de jure, not de facto.

We treat them as another country, we just don't call them that.

 

[Mac-7]

Your right, it is very simple.

We don't recognize Taiwan as a country, and neither does Japan. We both recognize Taiwan as a province of China.

Is Taiwan worth going to war over, which would pooch our economy when trade is cut off?

Not really.

You are splitting legal hairs

China claims Taiwan but Taiwan rejects china

The US and Japan need a free and independent Taiwan

You ask is it worth going to war over?

And the answer is yes

 

[scruffy]

You are splitting legal hairs

China claims Taiwan but Taiwan rejects china

The US and Japan need a free and independent Taiwan

You ask is it worth going to war over?

And the answer is yes

We'll be at war with China with or without Taiwan.

 

[Mac-7]

Failed Miserably? We know.

America’s New Chip Factory –$50 Billion Disaster

This video has everything: Drama, special effects, product placement, and fantasy! :ROFLMAO: Rising from the Texas plains is one of the most ambitious projects in U.S. history — Samsung’s $50 billion semiconductor factory in Taylor, Texas. Originally announced in 2021 as a $17 billion plan...

semiwiki.com

Actually the treaty was a pretty good one.

It retained US control until 1999, allowed us to maintain military bases, and gave our military ships priority transit through the canal.

Torrijos–Carter Treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Did you read your own link?

Any mistakes that were made were by Samsung not Trump

And its not a failure but merely a huge headache that needs mire effort

In the long fun it will be a benefit for Texas and America

 

[JoeB131]

That is only de jure, not de facto.

We treat them as another country, we just don't call them that.

But going to war requires de jure justification, and we don't have it.

You are splitting legal hairs

China claims Taiwan but Taiwan rejects china

No, Taiwan claims to BE China. They still call themselves the "Republic of China".

The US and Japan need a free and independent Taiwan

No, we don't.

You ask is it worth going to war over?

And the answer is yes

No, going to war with China over an internal issue because the Chinese are better at manufacturing than we are is not a good reason.

 

[JoeB131]

Did you read your own link?

Any mistakes that were made were by Samsung not Trump

And its not a failure but merely a huge headache that needs mire effort

In the long fun it will be a benefit for Texas and America

If they can't even get the basic stuff like the Foundation correct, not sure if they are going to be able to do the hard stuff.

 

[martybegan]

But going to war requires de jure justification, and we don't have it.



No, Taiwan claims to BE China. They still call themselves the "Republic of China".



No, we don't.


No, going to war with China over an internal issue because the Chinese are better at manufacturing than we are is not a good reason.

We have defense agreements with Taiwan to help them repel any attack from the PRC.

 

[Mac-7]

No, Taiwan claims to BE China. They still call themselves the "Republic of China".

Only to avoid a war with china they have not declared independence

Otherwise the Taiwanese people have freely rejected union with communist china at the ballot box for many years

 

[Mac-7]

If they can't even get the basic stuff like the Foundation correct, not sure if they are going to be able to do the hard stuff.

Yeah, that damn trump sure dont know how to pour a good foundation in Texas

Shame on him

 

[yidnar]

So you're going to enlist and go fight the communist threat, right?

I fight the communist threat by not voting for democrats .. I noticed you didn't refute communism sweeping through the democratic party ..

 

[Failzero]

China will move on Taiwan by Midsommar